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Just now, joeyt said:

Might be worth reigniting the Realistic Transfers thread and keep this for press rumours


I’m not sure any of us know what a realistic transfer is for us yet in this new era 

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Daily Mail reporting Tripper wants to come, Atletico wanted 25 mil in the summer but only 6 months left on current deal so could go for less than half of that (however goes on to say his current deal triggers a 1 year extension if he starts 20 games, currently started 12, so that may add on to the price)

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6 hours ago, Yelevats said:

- Bruce in the dugout longer than he needed which delayed the appointment of a new manager

- Delay in appointment of said new manager due to uncertainty surrounding preferred candidate.

- No Sporting Director to oversee football operations

- No new CEO to oversee business operations 

 

they took over in October. Football moves quicker than the speed of her decisions. 

 

Laughable guff, this. Talk about holding someone to impossible standards. Next it'll be 'she didn't predict the lottery numbers' and 'the ring came off my pudding can'.

 

 

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6 hours ago, Yelevats said:

- Bruce in the dugout longer than he needed which delayed the appointment of a new manager

- Delay in appointment of said new manager due to uncertainty surrounding preferred candidate.

- No Sporting Director to oversee football operations

- No new CEO to oversee business operations 

 

they took over in October. Football moves quicker than the speed of her decisions. 

Americans call this the Monday morning quarterback.

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Like I some of our fans don't realise how this stuff works. I've never served at the top of big business, but a cup of common sense will tell you it's not simple. 

 

They've acknowledged they underestimated the disdain for Bruce, but finding a replacement in this market is tough. Hiring a CEO with this kind of specialised experience is both a narrow scope of people and also one that will attract a global base of candidates. How much do they want? Do they qualify for a work permit? What is the structure around them? What's the 2-5-10 year plan? You can rush and throw bricks down or you can take your time and do it properly.

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11 hours ago, Yelevats said:

- Bruce in the dugout longer than he needed which delayed the appointment of a new manager

- Delay in appointment of said new manager due to uncertainty surrounding preferred candidate.

- No Sporting Director to oversee football operations

- No new CEO to oversee business operations 

- No title yet

- No CL qualification

- No Messi

- No Mbappe

- No new stadium

 

they took over in October. Football moves quicker than the speed of her decisions. 

It’s a shite state of affairs Tommy Yelevats

 

 

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1 hour ago, Dr.Spaceman said:

I can't get my head around anyone questioning the current directors decision making process after the last 14 years.

You could argue that the last 14 years were so bad that it's warped any sense of standard criticism. I don't get it tbh, Staveley said they would make mistakes and they've made them. Nothing wrong with saying that without getting hysterical about it.

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Worried we’re supposedly serious about buying Cook. 3-4 years ago I would have said he was very underrated, past his best now I’d imagine (seeing as he doesn’t seem to get into the Bournemouth team).

 

While the loyalty is admirable in some respects, I think Howe’s problem with Bournemouth was that he wasn’t ruthless enough with upgrading his playing staff. Despite decent spending, they never really pushed on while they were in the Premier League.

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13 minutes ago, McCormick said:

Worried we’re supposedly serious about buying Cook. 3-4 years ago I would have said he was very underrated, past his best now I’d imagine (seeing as he doesn’t seem to get into the Bournemouth team).

 

While the loyalty is admirable in some respects, I think Howe’s problem with Bournemouth was that he wasn’t ruthless enough with upgrading his playing staff. Despite decent spending, they never really pushed on while they were in the Premier League.

I’d be worried too but I’m going to consign it to speculation which is without basis. 

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It must be tempting for Howe to go for some Bournemouth fellas that he trusts but Steve Cook? He's pretty shit, I doubt that this is true.

 

I've always been against 'trophy' signings but this time it's different. We must make a bold claim in the transfer market while the takeover is fresh. High profile signings would be a powerful signal to other agents and players that we're serious about competing at the top, regardless of our current position.

 

 

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13 minutes ago, ManDoon said:

I’m worried we going into RAWK territory where we can’t have any criticism of the board. Let’s not do that 

Criticism when justified is fine. Complaining about not firing Bruce on day 1 etc is unjustified imo. They’ve come into a shell of a club with zero staff, zero experience, and are undoubtedly doing the best they can with what they have. You can’t magic CEOs and DoFs out of thin air. Let’s see where we are, as well as what the future plans are, at the seasons end before hanging them out to dry. They deserve that at the very least. 

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It's laughable how any criticism of the board is jumped on as ridiculous. 

 

I'm hesitant to criticise at the moment. I understand that they want to do things properly and appoint the right people in the right places. Its a bit of a worry that no senior figured have been appointed though, except for a manager which was done very poorly.

 

It's all about January for me. They knew from day one that January is the be and end all for this season. October is more than enough time to get things in order to be able to bring in significant reinforcements. As long as we're able to give ourselves a fighting chance, thats good enough for me. 

 

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2 minutes ago, Doctor Zaius said:

It's laughable how any criticism of the board is jumped on as ridiculous. 

 

Not a single person has said this. As I’ve stated, the criticism has to be justified, and at this moment, I personally feel none of it is. 

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People - I would be happy with anything but Ashley

People - Not sacked Bruce yet
People - Shelvey has been really good
People - Howe is not good enough
People - No DOF

People - Spending to much on 31 year old defender

People -  Lascelles is shit
People -  Willock is shit
People - Board are slow


 

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8 minutes ago, Slim said:

People - I would be happy with anything but Ashley

People - Not sacked Bruce yet
People - Shelvey has been really good
People - Howe is not good enough
People - No DOF

People - Spending to much on 31 year old defender

People -  Lascelles is shit
People -  Willock is shit
People - Board are slow


 

Some people simply aren't happy if they're not miserable. 

 

Everyone knows someone like this....

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35 minutes ago, ManDoon said:

That’s fair, I’m not saying all is justified I just don’t want it to be a case where any criticism is jumped on. Personally I’m slightly worried about this approach to January, as it’s so pivotal. 

That’s fair, I’m worried myself about lots of things regarding how things will go across the entire club, I do feel, however, long-term, under these lot, we will be successful, minus the trophies of course, NUFC don’t do that!

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Nat Philips anyone? And I quite like Ayling at Leeds, despite the scoreline the other night he cut out quite a lot of danger and seems to read the game well, he looks like a leader too.

 

 

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Can we not just accept our faith and buy PSGs starting 11 to fight relegation (speed up the process 100%)

or

buy the worlds most talented teenagers and see how that works?

At least we will have an exciting squad in years to come also if we should be unable to avoid the drop....

 

 

 

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