joeyt Posted December 15, 2021 Share Posted December 15, 2021 Might be worth reigniting the Realistic Transfers thread and keep this for press rumours Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LV Posted December 15, 2021 Share Posted December 15, 2021 Just now, joeyt said: Might be worth reigniting the Realistic Transfers thread and keep this for press rumours I’m not sure any of us know what a realistic transfer is for us yet in this new era Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NWMag Posted December 15, 2021 Share Posted December 15, 2021 Daily Mail reporting Tripper wants to come, Atletico wanted 25 mil in the summer but only 6 months left on current deal so could go for less than half of that (however goes on to say his current deal triggers a 1 year extension if he starts 20 games, currently started 12, so that may add on to the price) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
elbee909 Posted December 16, 2021 Share Posted December 16, 2021 (edited) 6 hours ago, Yelevats said: - Bruce in the dugout longer than he needed which delayed the appointment of a new manager - Delay in appointment of said new manager due to uncertainty surrounding preferred candidate. - No Sporting Director to oversee football operations - No new CEO to oversee business operations they took over in October. Football moves quicker than the speed of her decisions. Laughable guff, this. Talk about holding someone to impossible standards. Next it'll be 'she didn't predict the lottery numbers' and 'the ring came off my pudding can'. Edited December 16, 2021 by elbee909 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thiago Posted December 16, 2021 Share Posted December 16, 2021 6 hours ago, Yelevats said: - Bruce in the dugout longer than he needed which delayed the appointment of a new manager - Delay in appointment of said new manager due to uncertainty surrounding preferred candidate. - No Sporting Director to oversee football operations - No new CEO to oversee business operations they took over in October. Football moves quicker than the speed of her decisions. Americans call this the Monday morning quarterback. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
elbee909 Posted December 16, 2021 Share Posted December 16, 2021 1 hour ago, Thiago said: Americans call this the Monday morning quarterback. Captain Hindsight with thinly-veiled sexism - 'her' decisions, because if anything goes wrong it's all down to Staveley, of course. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thiago Posted December 16, 2021 Share Posted December 16, 2021 Like I some of our fans don't realise how this stuff works. I've never served at the top of big business, but a cup of common sense will tell you it's not simple. They've acknowledged they underestimated the disdain for Bruce, but finding a replacement in this market is tough. Hiring a CEO with this kind of specialised experience is both a narrow scope of people and also one that will attract a global base of candidates. How much do they want? Do they qualify for a work permit? What is the structure around them? What's the 2-5-10 year plan? You can rush and throw bricks down or you can take your time and do it properly. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr.Spaceman Posted December 16, 2021 Share Posted December 16, 2021 I can't get my head around anyone questioning the current directors decision making process after the last 14 years. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest HTT II Posted December 16, 2021 Share Posted December 16, 2021 (edited) 11 hours ago, Yelevats said: - Bruce in the dugout longer than he needed which delayed the appointment of a new manager - Delay in appointment of said new manager due to uncertainty surrounding preferred candidate. - No Sporting Director to oversee football operations - No new CEO to oversee business operations - No title yet - No CL qualification - No Messi - No Mbappe - No new stadium they took over in October. Football moves quicker than the speed of her decisions. It’s a shite state of affairs Tommy Yelevats Edited December 16, 2021 by HTT II Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid Icarus Posted December 16, 2021 Share Posted December 16, 2021 1 hour ago, Dr.Spaceman said: I can't get my head around anyone questioning the current directors decision making process after the last 14 years. You could argue that the last 14 years were so bad that it's warped any sense of standard criticism. I don't get it tbh, Staveley said they would make mistakes and they've made them. Nothing wrong with saying that without getting hysterical about it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
McCormick Posted December 16, 2021 Share Posted December 16, 2021 Worried we’re supposedly serious about buying Cook. 3-4 years ago I would have said he was very underrated, past his best now I’d imagine (seeing as he doesn’t seem to get into the Bournemouth team). While the loyalty is admirable in some respects, I think Howe’s problem with Bournemouth was that he wasn’t ruthless enough with upgrading his playing staff. Despite decent spending, they never really pushed on while they were in the Premier League. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
r0cafella Posted December 16, 2021 Share Posted December 16, 2021 13 minutes ago, McCormick said: Worried we’re supposedly serious about buying Cook. 3-4 years ago I would have said he was very underrated, past his best now I’d imagine (seeing as he doesn’t seem to get into the Bournemouth team). While the loyalty is admirable in some respects, I think Howe’s problem with Bournemouth was that he wasn’t ruthless enough with upgrading his playing staff. Despite decent spending, they never really pushed on while they were in the Premier League. I’d be worried too but I’m going to consign it to speculation which is without basis. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
junkhead Posted December 16, 2021 Share Posted December 16, 2021 It must be tempting for Howe to go for some Bournemouth fellas that he trusts but Steve Cook? He's pretty shit, I doubt that this is true. I've always been against 'trophy' signings but this time it's different. We must make a bold claim in the transfer market while the takeover is fresh. High profile signings would be a powerful signal to other agents and players that we're serious about competing at the top, regardless of our current position. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manxst Posted December 16, 2021 Share Posted December 16, 2021 13 minutes ago, ManDoon said: I’m worried we going into RAWK territory where we can’t have any criticism of the board. Let’s not do that Criticism when justified is fine. Complaining about not firing Bruce on day 1 etc is unjustified imo. They’ve come into a shell of a club with zero staff, zero experience, and are undoubtedly doing the best they can with what they have. You can’t magic CEOs and DoFs out of thin air. Let’s see where we are, as well as what the future plans are, at the seasons end before hanging them out to dry. They deserve that at the very least. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Prophet Posted December 16, 2021 Share Posted December 16, 2021 Similarly criticism of the board is fine, but criticising a decision making process that we aren't privity to seems a bit daft. We can only speculate about what's causing decisions to take longer than expected. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doctor Zaius Posted December 16, 2021 Share Posted December 16, 2021 It's laughable how any criticism of the board is jumped on as ridiculous. I'm hesitant to criticise at the moment. I understand that they want to do things properly and appoint the right people in the right places. Its a bit of a worry that no senior figured have been appointed though, except for a manager which was done very poorly. It's all about January for me. They knew from day one that January is the be and end all for this season. October is more than enough time to get things in order to be able to bring in significant reinforcements. As long as we're able to give ourselves a fighting chance, thats good enough for me. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manxst Posted December 16, 2021 Share Posted December 16, 2021 2 minutes ago, Doctor Zaius said: It's laughable how any criticism of the board is jumped on as ridiculous. Not a single person has said this. As I’ve stated, the criticism has to be justified, and at this moment, I personally feel none of it is. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slim Posted December 16, 2021 Share Posted December 16, 2021 People - I would be happy with anything but Ashley People - Not sacked Bruce yet People - Shelvey has been really good People - Howe is not good enough People - No DOF People - Spending to much on 31 year old defender People - Lascelles is shit People - Willock is shit People - Board are slow Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gjohnson Posted December 16, 2021 Share Posted December 16, 2021 8 minutes ago, Slim said: People - I would be happy with anything but Ashley People - Not sacked Bruce yet People - Shelvey has been really good People - Howe is not good enough People - No DOF People - Spending to much on 31 year old defender People - Lascelles is shit People - Willock is shit People - Board are slow Some people simply aren't happy if they're not miserable. Everyone knows someone like this.... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest HTT II Posted December 16, 2021 Share Posted December 16, 2021 35 minutes ago, ManDoon said: That’s fair, I’m not saying all is justified I just don’t want it to be a case where any criticism is jumped on. Personally I’m slightly worried about this approach to January, as it’s so pivotal. That’s fair, I’m worried myself about lots of things regarding how things will go across the entire club, I do feel, however, long-term, under these lot, we will be successful, minus the trophies of course, NUFC don’t do that! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest HTT II Posted December 16, 2021 Share Posted December 16, 2021 (edited) Nat Philips anyone? And I quite like Ayling at Leeds, despite the scoreline the other night he cut out quite a lot of danger and seems to read the game well, he looks like a leader too. Edited December 16, 2021 by HTT II Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sugoinufc Posted December 16, 2021 Share Posted December 16, 2021 Can we not just accept our faith and buy PSGs starting 11 to fight relegation (speed up the process 100%) or buy the worlds most talented teenagers and see how that works? At least we will have an exciting squad in years to come also if we should be unable to avoid the drop.... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Jinx Posted December 16, 2021 Share Posted December 16, 2021 A left back and 2 CB’s, a holding midfielder, a striker and a creative midfielder. That’s the minimum we need to stay up. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Awaymag Posted December 16, 2021 Share Posted December 16, 2021 Just buy a new first 11 and be done with it. Go all in! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thumbheed Posted December 16, 2021 Share Posted December 16, 2021 Am I the only one who thinks we desperately need someone who can play on the right and lessen the burden on ASM?! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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