Amir_9 Posted October 30, 2021 Share Posted October 30, 2021 Cannot wait to see the end of half of these Championship quality fucks soon enough. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolfcastle Posted October 30, 2021 Share Posted October 30, 2021 Chelsea were better a few years ago, post, bar, and we fluked a win. Same lifting performance from us but the luck has ran out. As we all said it would. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mouldy_uk Posted October 30, 2021 Share Posted October 30, 2021 Longstaff - can’t stand the player absolute gash. Offers nothing in any direction. Can’t shoot, pass or do anything. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PCW1983 Posted October 30, 2021 Share Posted October 30, 2021 Difficult to watch however I personally feel the team worked hard in the first half to contain Chelsea. They looked more organised and more disciplined but without a plan to challenge rather defend. I’m not sure there’s a manager in the world who could have changed the result, there’s a very long road ahead but my overwhelming feeling is that there needs to be a clean slate from top to bottom, all new coaching and management team and a whole new spine of players as a minimum. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Jinx Posted October 30, 2021 Share Posted October 30, 2021 90% of the balls we played toward Wilson today were goal kicks. Total shambles. You could tell the first 5 times we tried it that it wasn’t working, yet we persisted doing it all game. I think Jones played his part in us staying up last season, but other teams have improved, adapted etc.. he could well have run out of ideas. We just look totally devoid of anything worth building on. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GWN Posted October 30, 2021 Share Posted October 30, 2021 I hope I look back one day and remember this feeling. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lenny Posted October 30, 2021 Share Posted October 30, 2021 What I will say, as shit as that was it's nice to feel the wont to constructively talk about it rather than just erase it from my mind. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mouldy_uk Posted October 30, 2021 Share Posted October 30, 2021 Just now, GWN said: I hope I look back one day and remember this feeling. …and wish we were back in the Premiership Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happinesstan Posted October 30, 2021 Share Posted October 30, 2021 With Dubravka in goal it's a different game today. He gives confidence to the back line, which means we're not so dependent on the midfield protecting them. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris_R Posted October 30, 2021 Share Posted October 30, 2021 2 minutes ago, Lenny said: What I will say, as shit as that was it's nice to feel the wont to constructively talk about it rather than just erase it from my mind. I at least feel pain today, and anger. That's better than feeling nothing. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris_R Posted October 30, 2021 Share Posted October 30, 2021 Just now, Happinesstan said: With Dubravka in goal it's a different game today. He gives confidence to the back line, which means we're not so dependent on the midfield protecting them. Not if we all sit in our own box all match and have 20% of the ball, and that seemed to be the instructions we were under rather than because of who the GK was. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kanj Posted October 30, 2021 Share Posted October 30, 2021 A really gut kicking result considering they seemed to be aware of just the plan of getting a single point or nicking something late. it wasn’t pretty, was never going to be but you could tell the plan literally was that. however a world class manager quickly made the subs ahead of ours and they scored and it was over. The introduction of Loftus-Cheek changed the game for them as he attacked the box and allowed James to get space in dangerous areas in the box. Game over. a new spine, a new coaching setup, a new fitness regime, every thing needs change. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happinesstan Posted October 30, 2021 Share Posted October 30, 2021 2 minutes ago, Chris_R said: Not if we all sit in our own box all match and have 20% of the ball, and that seemed to be the instructions we were under rather than because of who the GK was. Jones was constantly telling them to push up. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest reefatoon Posted October 30, 2021 Share Posted October 30, 2021 28 minutes ago, mighty__mag said: Just the way you put it, Hes not a manager, never will be, when originally quoting me, like I thought he was? So we both know he's a coach then, great?? ahh yeah, wasn’t disagreeing with you. I was agreeing with your point. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
joeyt Posted October 30, 2021 Share Posted October 30, 2021 Grim that Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cubaricho Posted October 30, 2021 Share Posted October 30, 2021 “A new spine” can start with starting three of our best players (Dubs, Schar, Willock) rather than having them on the bench. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Geordie Posted October 30, 2021 Share Posted October 30, 2021 I'm beginning to wonder if relegation is a real possibility in terms of the rebuild and getting rid of the rot that has infested the club. It needs fumigating everywhere. Gonna be a helluva job for whoever comes in, because most of these players have given up. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
joeyt Posted October 30, 2021 Share Posted October 30, 2021 Players haven't given up they're just not very good or are poorly coached Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted October 30, 2021 Share Posted October 30, 2021 15 minutes ago, cubaricho said: “A new spine” can start with starting three of our best players (Dubs, Schar, Willock) rather than having them on the bench. We’ve almost got enough players to have a fresh start without any signings. We just need to start mixing it up and stop making the same selection mistakes. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted October 30, 2021 Share Posted October 30, 2021 (edited) Official possession was 20%, but I assume that includes stuff like taking goal kicks etc? If it was active possession in terms of passing the ball to each other, I’d say more like 5%. Edited October 30, 2021 by AyeDubbleYoo Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nufcnick Posted October 30, 2021 Share Posted October 30, 2021 3 minutes ago, AyeDubbleYoo said: We’ve almost got enough players to have a fresh start without any signings. We just need to start mixing it up and stop making the same selection mistakes. Yep, there is a reason Liverpool we’re going to sign Lewis, schar is a Swiss international, Fernandez is our best defender, willock has pace and energy. A new manager you would feel can get a lot out of that team when properly coached Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest reefatoon Posted October 30, 2021 Share Posted October 30, 2021 (edited) 2 minutes ago, AyeDubbleYoo said: Official possession was 20%, but I assume that includes stuff like taking goal kicks etc? If it was active possession in terms of passing the ball to each other, I’d say more like 5%. Yep, most of our possession was someone getting the ball, looking up, seeing nothing and giving it back to Darlow to wallop up the pitch to nobody. Rinse and repeat every time we had it. Edited October 30, 2021 by reefatoon Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
huss9 Posted October 30, 2021 Share Posted October 30, 2021 50 minutes ago, PCW1983 said: Difficult to watch however I personally feel the team worked hard in the first half to contain Chelsea. They looked more organised and more disciplined but without a plan to challenge rather defend. I’m not sure there’s a manager in the world who could have changed the result, there’s a very long road ahead but my overwhelming feeling is that there needs to be a clean slate from top to bottom, all new coaching and management team and a whole new spine of players as a minimum. no but i would rather have had a go at 0-1 down and then lost 0-3 rather than just contiuing to sit back and play a back 5 and a disabled LWB who cant run defend or cross any more. the stupid farce over the subs - fuck me. jones man, go back to coaching strikers. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LV Posted October 30, 2021 Share Posted October 30, 2021 I think what’s happened here is 14 years of abject underinvestment in the squad, club and facilities and the attendant affect that has had on the confidence of the players. We’ve been set up to fail. These players have been bought, most of them, to keep us ticking over and stay in the premier league by the skin of our teeth. And that’s exactly what we are doing. The whole thing needs investment and time. It may not be enough this season, who knows. Im not sure any manager would have got us much nearer Chelsea today. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
huss9 Posted October 30, 2021 Share Posted October 30, 2021 1 minute ago, LV said: I think what’s happened here is 14 years of abject underinvestment in the squad, club and facilities and the attendant affect that has had on the confidence of the players. We’ve been set up to fail. These players have been bought, most of them, to keep us ticking over and stay in the premier league by the skin of our teeth. And that’s exactly what we are doing. The whole thing needs investment and time. It may not be enough this season, who knows. Im not sure any manager would have got us much nearer Chelsea today. maybe not but they may have at least tried. jones kept on with the same formation sitting back even when we were losing. and he started the same team that was so shit last week. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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