Scoot Posted September 5 Share Posted September 5 Would hope he's eased back properly rather than rushed back. He's a massive player for us when fully fit. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SUPERTOON Posted September 5 Share Posted September 5 No surprise, fantasy to think he would be back sooner. Having worked with people with these injuries, I still think December is optimistic. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ikon Posted September 5 Share Posted September 5 (edited) ”But but, he's kicking a ball already…” Edited September 5 by Ikon Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
timeEd32 Posted September 5 Share Posted September 5 2 minutes ago, SUPERTOON said: No surprise, fantasy to think he would be back sooner. Having worked with people with these injuries, I still think December is optimistic. Especially optimistic when you factor in the Eddie ramp up period. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turnbull2000 Posted September 5 Share Posted September 5 So on course then. Some people thought he would be back next month Don't think he'll be sharp enough to be a starter till Feb or March, and even then it'll likely be next season when he's back to normal. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Solitude20 Posted September 5 Share Posted September 5 According to this study, the mean time for players to return after undergoing an ACL surgery is 10.4 months. Since he did his surgery at the end of March, then returning in February would be expected. https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/32379980/ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geordie Ahmed Posted September 5 Share Posted September 5 (edited) I always had it in mind that it would be 2025 and that too a couple of months in, anything sooner would be a bonus and a quick recovery Mings did his last August and hasn't quite returned yet, so anyone thinking Botman would be back soon was delusional Edited September 5 by Geordie Ahmed Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elma Posted September 5 Share Posted September 5 I looked at Krafth and Livramento and they were both around the 350 days mark from injury to playing return. Perhaps Botman's wasn't a full rupture but December would still be exceptional quick for a return (based on that admittedly small sample). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
black_n_white Posted September 5 Share Posted September 5 No chance he returns to the team until February earliest. Might even be April by the time he’s match fit again. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weezertron Posted September 5 Share Posted September 5 Boils my piss that we kept playing him with his knee half hanging off. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erikse Posted September 6 Share Posted September 6 (edited) 6 hours ago, timeEd32 said: Especially optimistic when you factor in the Eddie ramp up period. Uh? Willock did 2 sub appearances after the hamstring, and then started the next one, one week after the first sub appearance. Soon after he did his achilles. After the achilles injury he had 1 sub appearance, and then he was starting the next one 3(!) days later. Didn't take long until he was out again. What "ramp up period"? Can you give me examples? And don't give me examples of players who probably wouldn't make the starting 11 anyways. I'm sure he will take more time in this case since the injury lasted for nearly a year, but that's what any manager would do. Edited September 6 by Erikse Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sibierski Posted September 6 Share Posted September 6 February is just a logical time to come back. If we progress in FA Cup, 4th round game on 8th Feb feels a good date to earmark to not rush him back. Go out in 3rd Round, it’s the week before home to Fulham where we then have two weeks off. Don’t want to be here in January after he’s injured from coming back too early and being “Shock, none of us didn’t see this coming”. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elliottman Posted September 6 Share Posted September 6 7 hours ago, Weezertron said: Boils my piss that we kept playing him with his knee half hanging off. ‘he’ kept playing … Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted September 6 Share Posted September 6 For ACLs I always factor 1 whole year as a normal recovery. I've pretty much discounted him being at 100% until next season. This season I hope he comes back and proves his fitness and gets towards 100% of his previous ability or more, But I won't overly judge his performance or his physical recovery until 25/26. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PauloGeordio Posted September 6 Share Posted September 6 3 minutes ago, The College Dropout said: For ACLs I always factor 1 whole year as a normal recovery. I've pretty much discounted him being at 100% until next season. This season I hope he comes back and proves his fitness and gets towards 100% of his previous ability or more, But I won't overly judge his performance or his physical recovery until 25/26. Same with Krafth. He’s more his old self this season after finishing last season on the back of his CL injury. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
WilliamPS Posted September 6 Share Posted September 6 The club said 9 months at the start, they are still saying 9 months now, given that’s informed by the surgeon and medical staff 9 months and back to playing in December seems reasonable. He may have a set back, or pick up a niggle, but it’s 5 and a half months in so they’ll know it’s progressing according to plan. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
madras Posted September 6 Share Posted September 6 31 minutes ago, Elliottman said: ‘he’ kept playing … With professional medical advice to say he could. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
joeyt Posted October 4 Share Posted October 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
relámpago blanco Posted October 4 Share Posted October 4 42 minutes ago, joeyt said: Can't be more than a month away if he's training Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
STM Posted October 4 Share Posted October 4 23 minutes ago, relámpago blanco said: Can't be more than a month away if he's training I don't think that's "training" so much as muscle building. He might not even be sprinting yet. Great to see the big fella though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
WilliamPS Posted October 4 Share Posted October 4 19 minutes ago, relámpago blanco said: Can't be more than a month away if he's training He might just be back to running/sprinting on grass, I.e. a long way from full contact training and even longer from match fit Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigfella Posted October 4 Share Posted October 4 3 minutes ago, STM said: I don't think that's "training" so much as muscle building. He might not even be sprinting yet. Great to see the big fella though. Always a pleasure Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turnbull2000 Posted October 4 Share Posted October 4 Will still be December before he's training properly, and next Feb or so before he can play at a diminished level. He'll hopefully be back to normal next season. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rod Posted October 4 Share Posted October 4 13 minutes ago, Turnbull2000 said: Will still be December before he's training properly, and next Feb or so before he can play at a diminished level. He'll hopefully be back to normal next season. I don't believe it until college dropout confirms it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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