PlymouthGeordie Posted June 10, 2022 Share Posted June 10, 2022 (edited) If Howe took the same viewpoint as a lot of our fans he wouldn't be here. He was the owners 2nd choice behind Emery. Football is fickle. I've no problem with Botman preferring Milan but if that move doesn't materialise and he's also happy to come here I'd have him in a heartbeat. He's fighting to be in the Dutch squad at the world cup, he'll want to prove himself capable of playing in the Premier League etc. If he signs for us it'll be because he wants to come and he'll have plenty of reasons to give the move his all. We've just signed Targett but if we didn't and he went to Fulham (who were reportedly interested) I really doubt Fulham fans would care that we were his preferred club. Edited June 10, 2022 by PlymouthGeordie Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanshithispantz Posted June 10, 2022 Share Posted June 10, 2022 At the end of the day, I think that if Sven turns us down, whoever his replacement is will be a bigger name in football within 2-4 years. Bruno gets it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitley mag Posted June 10, 2022 Share Posted June 10, 2022 Was watching this yesterday and he does love a sliding tackle this lad. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Prophet Posted June 10, 2022 Share Posted June 10, 2022 Sounds like due to injuries, he'll be drafted into the full Netherlands squad for the games tomorrow and next week. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gawalls Posted June 10, 2022 Share Posted June 10, 2022 31 minutes ago, PlymouthGeordie said: If Howe took the same viewpoint as a lot of our fans he wouldn't be here. He was the owners 2nd choice behind Emery. Football is fickle. I've no problem with Botman preferring Milan but if that move doesn't materialise and he's also happy to come here I'd have him in a heartbeat. He's fighting to be in the Dutch squad at the world cup, he'll want to prove himself capable of playing in the Premier League etc. If he signs for us it'll be because he wants to come and he'll have plenty of reasons to give the move his all. We've just signed Targett but if we didn't and he went to Fulham (who were reportedly interested) I really doubt Fulham fans would care that we were his preferred club. That’s a fair point Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rich Posted June 10, 2022 Share Posted June 10, 2022 Putting the shit patter aside, I'd be chuffed if we managed to get him, and same with Ekitike. We're clearly very, very sold on both of them and their age profile is exactly what we need. I said it ages ago, but I do think that money will ultimately talk, and like with Bruno, he'll be making the correct long-term decision if he does decide to come here. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nucasol Posted June 10, 2022 Share Posted June 10, 2022 22 minutes ago, The Prophet said: Sounds like due to injuries, he'll be drafted into the full Netherlands squad for the games tomorrow and next week. Means Wednesday at the earliest when he becomes free to do medicals. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sushimonster85 Posted June 10, 2022 Share Posted June 10, 2022 1 minute ago, Nucasol said: Means Wednesday at the earliest when he becomes free to do medicals. It may inadvertently buy Milan a little more time. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cronky Posted June 10, 2022 Share Posted June 10, 2022 26 minutes ago, Whitley mag said: Was watching this yesterday and he does love a sliding tackle this lad. Likes a sliding tackle, doesn't he? I like the steely glare. He seems a strong-minded, decisive personality, which is important in a CB, and impressive in one that young. I think I can see why Howe wants him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cookie1892 Posted June 10, 2022 Share Posted June 10, 2022 (edited) a song for if he doesnt come.. oohhhh botmans fucking tragic he wears a tragic hat he could of signed for the mags but he said no fuck that he wants to play for maldini in the famous san siro and when he doesnt get a game we'll sing i told you so ohhhhhh Edited June 10, 2022 by Cookie1892 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tsunami Posted June 10, 2022 Share Posted June 10, 2022 He looks a big strong lad. I hope those high lights aren’t his general game; sliding tackles usually suggest you’re either in the wrong position and have to adjust or you’re simply lacking a bit pace. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaKa Posted June 10, 2022 Share Posted June 10, 2022 (edited) 54 minutes ago, Whitley mag said: Was watching this yesterday and he does love a sliding tackle this lad. More importantly, he actually knows how to slide tackle. Really like how he looks to wrap his foot around the ball as he does so, and doesn't just fly in recklessly. He also really seems to do a good job of using the slide tackle to his advantage against quicker players in order to halt their progress earlier on, to prevent them from running away from him. Really like the look of him. Big, strong, aggressive, and with some actual defensive skill when challenging for the ball. Edited June 10, 2022 by KaKa Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaKa Posted June 10, 2022 Share Posted June 10, 2022 14 minutes ago, Tsunami said: He looks a big strong lad. I hope those high lights aren’t his general game; sliding tackles usually suggest you’re either in the wrong position and have to adjust or you’re simply lacking a bit pace. It's a very effective strategy if you actually know how to slide tackle and have good discipline and timing when doing so, which he appears to do. Always surprises me how bad most players, defenders or otherwise, are at slide tackling. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ikon Posted June 10, 2022 Share Posted June 10, 2022 Maldini: if I make a sliding tackle then I have already done something wrong before” Or similar. I like that quote. Nothing against Botman this, before people start blabbing their lips. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dokko Posted June 10, 2022 Share Posted June 10, 2022 (edited) 6 minutes ago, KaKa said: It's a very effective strategy if you actually know how to slide tackle and have good discipline and timing when doing so, which he appears to do. Always surprises me how bad most players, defenders or otherwise, are at slide tackling. Generally depends on how quick the forward can change their feet position. He'll be up against seasoned PL strikers, he needs anticipation if he hasn't got recovery. Slide tackle is very Steven Taylor, who had to make them all the time due to lack of awareness and positioning. I'm not too fussed on Botman tbh. Think there are better options out there but if we get him then I'm sure we'll work on his flaws. Totally agree with @Tsunami BTW. And from what we've seen and read this is exactly whst kind of player he is. Can he adapt and up his game? Edited June 10, 2022 by Dokko Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaKa Posted June 10, 2022 Share Posted June 10, 2022 Just now, Ikon said: Maldini: if I make a sliding tackle then I have already done something wrong before” Or similar. I like that quote. Nothing against Botman this, before people start blabbing their lips. Yeah, it's a great quote and Maldini was the ultimate defender. However, I never really fully agreed with that quote. Always thought there was a place for the slide tackle, especially going against shorter quicker players when they've tried to go by you and you are running alongside them. Using your longer legs with a well timed tackle in that situation is very effective. All about timing though, it's a skill like any other. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
madras Posted June 10, 2022 Share Posted June 10, 2022 3 minutes ago, Ikon said: Maldini: if I make a sliding tackle then I have already done something wrong before” Or similar. I like that quote. Nothing against Botman this, before people start blabbing their lips. Also a sliding tackle could also be making up for someone else's error or good play by the attacker. Just as likely is a highlights vid of Woodgate style nudging onto possession wouldn't get many views. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
STM Posted June 10, 2022 Share Posted June 10, 2022 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
STM Posted June 10, 2022 Share Posted June 10, 2022 Trying to get this transfer over the wall. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gazzaschicken Posted June 10, 2022 Share Posted June 10, 2022 Feel like I've become emotionally invested in signing botman with not knowing too much about him and its really just cause I want to do the batman chant, every million well spent Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ikon Posted June 10, 2022 Share Posted June 10, 2022 (edited) Not sure if I read it correctly but according to @AntoVitiello it sounds like Milan are after Bremer now instead. Ain’t happening that we sign 2 starting centre backs in this window but Botman and Bremer would be a tasty duo tbh. Edited June 10, 2022 by Ikon Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitley mag Posted June 10, 2022 Share Posted June 10, 2022 Just now, Ikon said: Not sure if I read it correctly but according to @AntoVitiello it sounds like Milan are after Bremer now instead. Looks a right hard fucker Bremer but apparently not the best footballer. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonBez comesock Posted June 10, 2022 Share Posted June 10, 2022 47 minutes ago, STM said: Trying to get this transfer over the wall. Fucking hell , another obstacle over the wall first , then over then line Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
elbee909 Posted June 10, 2022 Share Posted June 10, 2022 Botman. Ah-aaaah! Fighter of the Night Man. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NE27 Posted June 10, 2022 Share Posted June 10, 2022 1 minute ago, elbee909 said: Botman. Ah-aaaah! Fighter of the Night Man. Did you pay the troll toll to get inside this bot hole? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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