Hanshithispantz Posted January 24, 2022 Share Posted January 24, 2022 Maybe Sevilla just think £50m is too much money and have requested £38m. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted January 24, 2022 Share Posted January 24, 2022 On 24/01/2022 at 17:43, Dokko said: I think if we are around 30 and they have said 38, we just go in, no messing as it might get others tempted and of course we may piss them off if we haggle further. Soon as he's signed we go for Botman. Expand We're not giving up in a hurry, got to like that. Botman sounded like it was dead in the water, but who knows? Maybe if we chuck enough money at it.... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ben Posted January 24, 2022 Share Posted January 24, 2022 On 24/01/2022 at 17:22, nufc123 said: So we had bid £40-50m but now they "only" want 38? Expand Sounds like Staveley and Co know how to negotiate a deal, who'd have thought it eh after that last fuckin charlatan and his thumb headed side kick. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid Icarus Posted January 24, 2022 Share Posted January 24, 2022 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris_R Posted January 24, 2022 Share Posted January 24, 2022 On 24/01/2022 at 17:36, Jackie Broon said: As it stands we can spend something like £300-500m on transfer fees before we hit FFP issues. The biggest blow to our FFP position would be relegation, we need to do whatever it takes to avoid that. Expand That's 10 players at these prices - It's not even a full squad. We need to spend wisely, and if we can save a few million here and there we absolutely should. Obviously avoiding relegation is paramount though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
toontownman Posted January 24, 2022 Share Posted January 24, 2022 On 24/01/2022 at 17:43, Hanshithispantz said: Maybe Sevilla just think £50m is too much money and have requested £38m. Expand Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaKa Posted January 24, 2022 Share Posted January 24, 2022 I imagine that £38 million is how much they are wanting upfront. That offer of 55 million Euros, likely came with a bunch of clauses and caveats and was probably just £25 million upfront. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nufc123 Posted January 24, 2022 Share Posted January 24, 2022 On 24/01/2022 at 17:39, Jackie Broon said: The issue is that our bid of £40-50m is probably 'only' £20m-ish up front and the rest in add-ons, which might never happen. Expand Yeah maybe Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemmill Posted January 24, 2022 Share Posted January 24, 2022 Dr Evil doing the negotiations for Sevilla. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LFEE Posted January 24, 2022 Share Posted January 24, 2022 Don’t remember us bidding £40m-£50m? If referring to that Tweet it was what they were preparing/hoping for not what they’d received was the way I translated it. We probably know now how much they need to buy Martial and have held firm. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GWN Posted January 24, 2022 Share Posted January 24, 2022 Life in the fast lane Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wyn davies Posted January 24, 2022 Share Posted January 24, 2022 Chase Sevilla, they can sweat a bit longer on how much they're gonna lose, that's my negotiation position . Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
toontownman Posted January 24, 2022 Share Posted January 24, 2022 (edited) We only need point them to our track record of sending shit players to Spain and them flourishing like Joselu. Think of the profit they could make off Clark or Lascelles. p.s. don't mention Muto. Edited January 24, 2022 by toontownman Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cranna Posted January 24, 2022 Share Posted January 24, 2022 How good is Carlos? This is a defender who is primarily about carrying the ball and passing it, as opposed to winning it back. Per fbref, he is comparable to Juventus defender Matthijs De Ligt statistically and is excellent at bringing the ball out of defence and distributing it to his team-mates. But in terms of his defensive numbers, they are actually pretty poor. He is in the bottom 50 per cent of defenders across Europe’s top five leagues when it comes to pressures, tackles, interceptions, clearances, and aerial duels won. It is debatable as to whether he will be able to improve Newcastle on his own; this is a player who thrives when his team has the ball. Newcastle often don’t have the ball. At £30m, this deal for Carlos feels like something of a gamble, even if he is coming in from a top club in a top league. https://www.givemesport.com/1826836-newcastle-transfer-news-confidence-magpies-will-sign-66m-real-leader Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cranna Posted January 24, 2022 Share Posted January 24, 2022 On 24/01/2022 at 18:58, cranna said: How good is Carlos? This is a defender who is primarily about carrying the ball and passing it, as opposed to winning it back. Per fbref, he is comparable to Juventus defender Matthijs De Ligt statistically and is excellent at bringing the ball out of defence and distributing it to his team-mates. But in terms of his defensive numbers, they are actually pretty poor. He is in the bottom 50 per cent of defenders across Europe’s top five leagues when it comes to pressures, tackles, interceptions, clearances, and aerial duels won. It is debatable as to whether he will be able to improve Newcastle on his own; this is a player who thrives when his team has the ball. Newcastle often don’t have the ball. At £30m, this deal for Carlos feels like something of a gamble, even if he is coming in from a top club in a top league. https://www.givemesport.com/1826836-newcastle-transfer-news-confidence-magpies-will-sign-66m-real-leader Expand And no Koundé to partner him. I'm trying to figure out why Howe wants him so much. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LV Posted January 24, 2022 Share Posted January 24, 2022 On 24/01/2022 at 19:00, cranna said: And no Koundé to partner him. I'm trying to figure out why Howe wants him so much. Expand Have you met Jamal and Ciaran? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
OoOGazOoO Posted January 24, 2022 Share Posted January 24, 2022 Will Sevilla realise next week that they want £39m and drag it out for another week? May as well! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy Posted January 24, 2022 Share Posted January 24, 2022 On 24/01/2022 at 18:58, cranna said: How good is Carlos? This is a defender who is primarily about carrying the ball and passing it, as opposed to winning it back. Per fbref, he is comparable to Juventus defender Matthijs De Ligt statistically and is excellent at bringing the ball out of defence and distributing it to his team-mates. But in terms of his defensive numbers, they are actually pretty poor. He is in the bottom 50 per cent of defenders across Europe’s top five leagues when it comes to pressures, tackles, interceptions, clearances, and aerial duels won. It is debatable as to whether he will be able to improve Newcastle on his own; this is a player who thrives when his team has the ball. Newcastle often don’t have the ball. At £30m, this deal for Carlos feels like something of a gamble, even if he is coming in from a top club in a top league. https://www.givemesport.com/1826836-newcastle-transfer-news-confidence-magpies-will-sign-66m-real-leader Expand There's more to defending than stats are often able to show, like. You can't really measure positional sense, tactical understanding, leadership and organisation in stats. Mobility, and the resulting ability to play a higher line, is also crucial in the modern game for a central defender and is something we're completely bereft of. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Jinx Posted January 24, 2022 Share Posted January 24, 2022 We’ve been a soft touch at the back for some time, opposing teams feel quite comfortable hassling and getting at our defenders because sooner or later they crack. This guy will not be a pushover, he will need help for sure but he’ll bring a calmness to the back that we haven’t had. Also has excellent distribution. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happinesstan Posted January 24, 2022 Share Posted January 24, 2022 On 24/01/2022 at 17:33, Dr Jinx said: So we bid 25 million, then 28 probably and then upped it to 30, got him to hand in a transfer request and now his agents are at the club piling on the pressure. Grim Ballbag says it will take 50-60 million for them to sell. We get him for 38. Now if only we could have negotiated with Burnley like that! Expand Burnley would have held out for £25mill. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted January 24, 2022 Share Posted January 24, 2022 Burnley wouldn’t have sold at all unless there was a release clause. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GWN Posted January 24, 2022 Share Posted January 24, 2022 On 24/01/2022 at 19:16, OoOGazOoO said: Will Sevilla realise next week that they want £39m and drag it out for another week? May as well! Expand Id tell them to fuck off now like , yet I still want the sexy fucker . Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trensa Posted January 24, 2022 Share Posted January 24, 2022 On 24/01/2022 at 18:58, cranna said: How good is Carlos? This is a defender who is primarily about carrying the ball and passing it, as opposed to winning it back. Per fbref, he is comparable to Juventus defender Matthijs De Ligt statistically and is excellent at bringing the ball out of defence and distributing it to his team-mates. But in terms of his defensive numbers, they are actually pretty poor. He is in the bottom 50 per cent of defenders across Europe’s top five leagues when it comes to pressures, tackles, interceptions, clearances, and aerial duels won. It is debatable as to whether he will be able to improve Newcastle on his own; this is a player who thrives when his team has the ball. Newcastle often don’t have the ball. At £30m, this deal for Carlos feels like something of a gamble, even if he is coming in from a top club in a top league. https://www.givemesport.com/1826836-newcastle-transfer-news-confidence-magpies-will-sign-66m-real-leader Expand Mate, we all die respect, you have not Seen DC in your life. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manxst Posted January 24, 2022 Share Posted January 24, 2022 @Trensa now that it looks as though you’re signing Martial, does that affect Carlos at all? Do you need the money to buy Martial? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BeloEmre Posted January 24, 2022 Share Posted January 24, 2022 On 24/01/2022 at 22:16, Manxst said: @Trensa now that it looks as though you’re signing Martial, does that affect Carlos at all? Do you need the money to buy Martial? Expand They’re not buying Martial. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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