Cronky Posted May 27, 2022 Share Posted May 27, 2022 Only a You tube scouting mission, but Paqueta doesn't look quite as good to me as his valuation would suggest. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeordieDazzler Posted May 27, 2022 Share Posted May 27, 2022 Luke is nothing but a wind up merchant, has been evident for years. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BoSelecta Posted May 27, 2022 Share Posted May 27, 2022 Depends so much on what formation Howe sees us playing next year. Not instantly signing Targett and being heavily linked with Lodi does seem to suggest he's looking at his 4-4-2 or a 4-2-3-1 with width provided from the full back positions. Paqueta would fit perfectly for us in this scenario. If we go in for Diaby then maybe he's looking to stick with the 4-3-3 which we've had so much success with this season. Either way, we'll know more soon. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happinesstan Posted May 27, 2022 Share Posted May 27, 2022 I think the team we finished the season with is more than adequate to guarantee a top ten finish and I would be more than happy to start next season with that team. Of course we'd need to sign Targett for that to be possible and I can't believe we haven't. Obviously we're not Man City but we need to do what they do with their players. Buy them young and keep them hungry by not making them instant first team certainties. Allow them to settle in and absorb the club for 6 months, or even a year. Now, whether or not we can afford to be so pragmatic is a different matter. Going to Man City for 100million and a huge wage is going to alleviate some of the disappointment of not playing 50 games in your first year, whether we can offer that as a top ten team is questionable. But I think we can find the players, like Bruno, who can make it happen. I think I'd avoid anybody unwilling to follow that model. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happinesstan Posted May 27, 2022 Share Posted May 27, 2022 9 minutes ago, BoSelecta said: Depends so much on what formation Howe sees us playing next year. Not instantly signing Targett and being heavily linked with Lodi does seem to suggest he's looking at his 4-4-2 or a 4-2-3-1 with width provided from the full back positions. Paqueta would fit perfectly for us in this scenario. If we go in for Diaby then maybe he's looking to stick with the 4-3-3 which we've had so much success with this season. Either way, we'll know more soon. I'm hoping it's 442 and he's buying Lodi for the left wing. Not saying get rid of Maxi but a bit of competition for his place should invigorate him. If it doesn't then see ya. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BoSelecta Posted May 27, 2022 Share Posted May 27, 2022 12 minutes ago, Happinesstan said: I'm hoping it's 442 and he's buying Lodi for the left wing. Not saying get rid of Maxi but a bit of competition for his place should invigorate him. If it doesn't then see ya. The thought had crossed my mind but then why hasn’t Targett been signed? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonBez comesock Posted May 27, 2022 Share Posted May 27, 2022 1 hour ago, Optimistic Nut said: He says (don’t think) so he is unsure he says he was messaged a while back (so he is unsure right now) Tweet = covering all bases Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happinesstan Posted May 27, 2022 Share Posted May 27, 2022 Just now, BoSelecta said: The thought had crossed my mind but then why hasn’t Targett been signed? Still hoping. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SUPERTOON Posted May 27, 2022 Share Posted May 27, 2022 1 hour ago, Optimistic Nut said: Fingers crossed it rains non stop on his holiday Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BoSelecta Posted May 27, 2022 Share Posted May 27, 2022 (edited) The ‘price severely inflated’ doesn’t really stand up in the face of villa (also with money to spend) signing Carlos this week for ~£26m. Feels like a continuation of the January craic in the absence of new information to report before his jollies. When you think about it FFP should pretty much rules out any ‘you’re minted so pay us way over the odds’ tax. Selling clubs know FFP exists which gives us a reasonable bargaining position for not paying significantly inflated prices. the negotiations with us should be no different than with any other club - centred on how the two sides value the player. Might be wishful thinking on that one. Edited May 27, 2022 by BoSelecta Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nucasol Posted May 27, 2022 Share Posted May 27, 2022 26 minutes ago, SUPERTOON said: Fingers crossed it rains non stop on his holiday And wherever he goes has an acute alcohol shortage. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBrownBottle Posted May 27, 2022 Share Posted May 27, 2022 I don’t doubt that some other clubs will be demanding silly money - Lille and Sevilla were after daft sums for Botman and Carlos. Carlos has went for what still looks a hefty price tag - but there was talk that they wanted double that off us in January. Misery guts Edwards was wrong about the budget in Jan, and will no doubt be wrong again - though all the noises suggest he’s not wrong about us not chucking silly about. And Paqueta doesn’t feel like a priority - GK, LB, RW and CF are well ahead in terms of needs (and likely a CB too) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stottie Posted May 27, 2022 Share Posted May 27, 2022 If someone is for sale, they are for sale and if the player agrees terms with both clubs, top bid wins. An actual scenario where a foreign club says the price is 30M to Villa but 50M (i.e., not 31M) to NUFC is hard to believe. It is even harder to believe when clubs have just had a season plus whatever with no matchday revenue and need all the money they can get. If a player we've bid on looks like heading elsewhere for a lower fee, I don't see why the agent would not contact us and invite us to bid again. Any agent not doing that is not going to get the best package for the client. I'd love Paqueta, with the only proviso being that Willock was one of our most Brewced players and deserves a chance with the new setup. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris_R Posted May 27, 2022 Share Posted May 27, 2022 2 hours ago, Optimistic Nut said: So we're not signing Pacqueta because the price is inflated. The prices of all other players are also inflated. So I guess according to him we're signing nobody? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr.Spaceman Posted May 27, 2022 Share Posted May 27, 2022 If you knew the richest club in the world was desperate to sign one of your star players you'd be mental not to stick an extra 10-20 million on the players valuation. If we're telling every George, Luke or Craig all our plans it's going to do us no favours. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr.Spaceman Posted May 27, 2022 Share Posted May 27, 2022 Or we've been clever and briefed them in confidence. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Prophet Posted May 27, 2022 Share Posted May 27, 2022 Edwards hasn't had an in with the club since Bruce departed, it's probably why he had his bald head so far up Eddie's sphincter during the last press conference. He broke the Chris Wood story, but he also said we had a £50 milliom budget and we'd sign Nketiah off the top of my head. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomlynnherrington Posted May 27, 2022 Share Posted May 27, 2022 24 minutes ago, Stottie said: If someone is for sale, they are for sale and if the player agrees terms with both clubs, top bid wins. An actual scenario where a foreign club says the price is 30M to Villa but 50M (i.e., not 31M) to NUFC is hard to believe. It is even harder to believe when clubs have just had a season plus whatever with no matchday revenue and need all the money they can get. If a player we've bid on looks like heading elsewhere for a lower fee, I don't see why the agent would not contact us and invite us to bid again. Any agent not doing that is not going to get the best package for the client. I'd love Paqueta, with the only proviso being that Willock was one of our most Brewced players and deserves a chance with the new setup. Willock has looked all but disinterested this season.Absolutely nothing to do with the previous manager. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted May 27, 2022 Share Posted May 27, 2022 I thought Willock was starting to hit some form before the injury tbf. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomlynnherrington Posted May 27, 2022 Share Posted May 27, 2022 2 hours ago, Optimistic Nut said: Guess we’re going for the defensive midfielder sort to play with Joelinton & Bruno then, I would say that’s our top priority,or should be. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
xLiaaamx Posted May 27, 2022 Share Posted May 27, 2022 I wouldn't be surprised if we stick with the 5 we have already in midfield tbh Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Prophet Posted May 27, 2022 Share Posted May 27, 2022 The key is to replace Shelvey and decide where we want Bruno to play. If Bruno is playing as a progressive DM, we need a more attacking midfielder, like Paqueta. If we want Bruno further up the pitch, we need a defensive midfielder. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomlynnherrington Posted May 27, 2022 Share Posted May 27, 2022 8 minutes ago, Optimistic Nut said: I thought Willock was starting to hit some form before the injury tbf. I did say all but disinterested.Too many games where he’s happy to go through the motions for me.He played 29 games last season so if he started to hit some form before his injury,how many poor games did he play before his end of season form kicked in? Lack of form or lack of effort? As a comparison,Almiron always puts a shift in,as does Fraser. Sorry,to go to the next step,every player will need to give 100%. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomlynnherrington Posted May 27, 2022 Share Posted May 27, 2022 8 minutes ago, The Prophet said: The key is to replace Shelvey and decide where we want Bruno to play. If Bruno is playing as a progressive DM, we need a more attacking midfielder, like Paqueta. If we want Bruno further up the pitch, we need a defensive midfielder. Bruno,our attacking midfield player is better defensively than our two defensive holding midfield players when we’re under the cosh,usually in the second half.He’s the one who regularly breaks up the play just outside our box then gets us going forward.I think with better players around him,he’ll become somewhat special in the Premier League over time. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keegans Export Posted May 27, 2022 Share Posted May 27, 2022 11 minutes ago, The Prophet said: The key is to replace Shelvey and decide where we want Bruno to play. If Bruno is playing as a progressive DM, we need a more attacking midfielder, like Paqueta. If we want Bruno further up the pitch, we need a defensive midfielder. 100% My preference would probably be a DM. Against the better sides Bruno can sit deeper with the new DM and help cover the back four, in other games he can push forward and pick the ball up a bit further up the field. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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