Ben Posted July 10, 2022 Share Posted July 10, 2022 3 minutes ago, elbee909 said: Yep. Get all three and we push top 6 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flip Posted July 10, 2022 Share Posted July 10, 2022 (edited) 52 minutes ago, Stifler said: If it is between us and Arsenal then to be honest you only go to Arsenal if you are more bothers about looking good but not actually being good, same with Man Utd. With us, we have a long term plan in place, we are building a team to go somewhere. As much as the Jesus signing for them was brilliant, I don’t feel like there is a plan at Arsenal and they are just buying to fill holes and tried to get the biggest name they could afford/attract to fill the hole upfront, and look like they are doing something. I think long term, Arsenal and Man Utd are on the decline. I’m not saying we’ll win something or the title, but in 3-5 years time you’ll probably be looking at all 3 clubs and saying we are likely to challenge before they do. This is such a weird take for me. It' the same as the Botman and Milan story, except Arsenal is actually filled with young and exciting players. If there's a time to join Arsenal since Wenger it's now. They haven't been in this good of a place in over a decade, with a team doing well, only finishing two points out of CL football despite having a very young team. Our transfer dealings this summer doesnt really suggest, let's go challenge for the CL in the near future (maybe that changes in the next month or so...) In addition their club structure is 10 times more appealing than ours is, and for most foreigners I'd imagine London is more appealing than Newcastle as well. Edited July 10, 2022 by Flip Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mazzy Posted July 10, 2022 Share Posted July 10, 2022 11 minutes ago, SUPERTOON said: Would people be happy if we got Paqueta and either a RW or Striker, but missed out on one of them ? I'd be happy with Paqueta and a ST. I think we can cope with the current RW we have and perhaps Willock there also. But we cannot cope with just Wilson and Wood. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimburst Posted July 10, 2022 Share Posted July 10, 2022 Have there actually been any links between us and Paqueta? Especially recently? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted July 10, 2022 Share Posted July 10, 2022 2 minutes ago, Jimburst said: Have there actually been any links between us and Paqueta? Especially recently? Not that I know of, only that he’s Bruno’s mate. I’m not convinced that we’re even looking for someone of that type. Not that he isn’t class of course. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SUPERTOON Posted July 10, 2022 Share Posted July 10, 2022 5 minutes ago, Mazzy said: I'd be happy with Paqueta and a ST. I think we can cope with the current RW we have and perhaps Willock there also. But we cannot cope with just Wilson and Wood. I was thinking maybe Paqueta and someone like Dennis who can play both positions Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
relámpago blanco Posted July 10, 2022 Share Posted July 10, 2022 4 minutes ago, Jimburst said: Have there actually been any links between us and Paqueta? Especially recently? Roobenstein said we had made a bid yesterday but no idea where he got that from. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SUPERTOON Posted July 10, 2022 Share Posted July 10, 2022 Was it Howe who said if a quality player becomes available that can improve the team then we will look at it ? As for not being linked, according to the French press we bid for him in January. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanshithispantz Posted July 10, 2022 Share Posted July 10, 2022 11 minutes ago, Flip said: This is such a weird take for me. It' the same as the Botman and Milan story, except Arsenal is actualy filled with young and exciting players. If there's a time to join Arsenal since Wenger it's now. They haven't been in this good of a place in over a decade, with a team doing well, only finishing two points out of CL football despite having a very young team. Our transfer dealings this summer doesnt really suggest, let's go challenge for the CL in the near future (maybe that changes in the next month or so...) In addition their club structure is 10 times more appealing than ours is, and for most foreigners I'd imagine London is more appealing than Newcastle as well. You mean where Botnan came here, and it turned out to have never really been much of a contest? Arsenal will be a bigger draw for young players than Milan like. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SUPERTOON Posted July 10, 2022 Share Posted July 10, 2022 Just now, relámpago blanco said: Roobenstein said we had made a bid yesterday but no idea where he got that from. French press reported he turned us down in January Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Prophet Posted July 10, 2022 Share Posted July 10, 2022 7 minutes ago, Jimburst said: Have there actually been any links between us and Paqueta? Especially recently? Chris Waugh has said a couple of times that we briefly discussed him with Lyon in January, but nothing materialised. Nothing recent though, it's mostly just wishful thinking. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gdm Posted July 10, 2022 Share Posted July 10, 2022 9 minutes ago, Mazzy said: I'd be happy with Paqueta and a ST. I think we can cope with the current RW we have and perhaps Willock there also. But we cannot cope with just Wilson and Wood. Nah a right winger is an absolute must. Almiron, Fraser and Murphy managed a combined 9 goals and assists between the 3 of them last season. Just not good enough Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
relámpago blanco Posted July 10, 2022 Share Posted July 10, 2022 5 minutes ago, SUPERTOON said: French press reported he turned us down in January Roobenstein made out like we had just made a bid. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
madras Posted July 10, 2022 Share Posted July 10, 2022 3 minutes ago, SUPERTOON said: French press reported he turned us down in January Because of our position. We aren't in that position now. If we bid again we stand a very good chance of getting him this time which isn't to say we will get him, just that now we can go toe to toe with Arsenal when bidding for players. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SUPERTOON Posted July 10, 2022 Share Posted July 10, 2022 Pretty sure Martin Hardy in the times said we would break our transfer record for him as well earlier in the window Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SUPERTOON Posted July 10, 2022 Share Posted July 10, 2022 Just now, madras said: Because of our position. We aren't in that position now. If we bid again we stand a very good chance of getting him this time which isn't to say we will get him, just that now we can go toe to toe with Arsenal when bidding for players. No I’m not saying he won’t come, I was responding to people asking if we had actually been linked. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ben Posted July 10, 2022 Share Posted July 10, 2022 Dennis, Cornet, Paqueta. job done. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ponsaelius Posted July 10, 2022 Share Posted July 10, 2022 I'd rather Paqueta and a right winger and forego the striker if it was a choice. Paqueta can play as a CF. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
madras Posted July 10, 2022 Share Posted July 10, 2022 1 minute ago, gdm said: Nah a right winger is an absolute must. Almiron, Fraser and Murphy managed a combined 9 goals and assists between the 3 of them last season. Just not good enough How many assists might they have had if Wilson played instead of Wood ? Pet hate that so much value is given to those stats. They are a tool but shouldn't be used in isolation. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slim Posted July 10, 2022 Share Posted July 10, 2022 1 hour ago, Stifler said: If it is between us and Arsenal then to be honest you only go to Arsenal if you are more bothers about looking good but not actually being good, same with Man Utd. With us, we have a long term plan in place, we are building a team to go somewhere. As much as the Jesus signing for them was brilliant, I don’t feel like there is a plan at Arsenal and they are just buying to fill holes and tried to get the biggest name they could afford/attract to fill the hole upfront, and look like they are doing something. I think long term, Arsenal and Man Utd are on the decline. I’m not saying we’ll win something or the title, but in 3-5 years time you’ll probably be looking at all 3 clubs and saying we are likely to challenge before they do. Don't Arsenal have the youngest squad in the league? Not sure how they decline. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LV Posted July 10, 2022 Share Posted July 10, 2022 9 minutes ago, SUPERTOON said: French press reported he turned us down in January Thought it was the club who turned us down Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gdm Posted July 10, 2022 Share Posted July 10, 2022 (edited) 5 minutes ago, madras said: How many assists might they have had if Wilson played instead of Wood ? Pet hate that so much value is given to those stats. They are a tool but shouldn't be used in isolation. Fair point but regardless of stats I think we all know they aren’t good enough and it just ends up with most attacks going to ASM down the left. This is why by all accounts a RW is a priority for Howe and co. people don’t want to accept that another midfielder is below a winger and striker in the list of priorities. Like it not Howe seems to really like Shelvey and sees something in longstaff & Willock Edited July 10, 2022 by gdm Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
madras Posted July 10, 2022 Share Posted July 10, 2022 1 minute ago, gdm said: Fair point but regardless of stats I think we all know they aren’t good enough and it just ends up with most attacks going to ASM down the left. This is why by all accounts a RW is a priority for Howe and co Definitely, right now the two positions that need upgrading are the two right sided positions if we play 433, Pacqueta imo can play one of those, we also have the option of a better 4231 with him, even a 451 if you will. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SUPERTOON Posted July 10, 2022 Share Posted July 10, 2022 4 minutes ago, LV said: Thought it was the club who turned us down I’ve seen reports of both tbh, suggest we definitely have an interest though Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Butcher Posted July 10, 2022 Share Posted July 10, 2022 Arsenal need a proper DM. They've plenty attacking midfielders. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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