duo Posted July 17, 2025 Share Posted July 17, 2025 PIF need to become a bit more streetwise- they will not get us to number one if they don't start playing the game. Saudis bank rolled the CWC which is FIFA crown jewel. You can't tell me they haven't Infantinos ear. They need to start applying some of that influence to change the rules so it's an even playing field. FIFA governs UEFA right? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
simonsays Posted July 17, 2025 Share Posted July 17, 2025 40 minutes ago, Novocastrian said: If we are going to low ball every offer it’s going to be a long summer. I get the negotiation bit but when targets are in high demand from multiple suitors you’ve got to move quickly. £65m for Ekitike doesn't feel like a lowball offer tbh. I don't imagine Liverpool will end up paying much more. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zero Posted July 17, 2025 Share Posted July 17, 2025 14 minutes ago, simonsays said: £65m for Ekitike doesn't feel like a lowball offer tbh. I don't imagine Liverpool will end up paying much more. If nearly all our offer are lower than the final agreed market price then we are definitely lowballing. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vinny Green Balls Posted July 17, 2025 Share Posted July 17, 2025 We did get Elanga, sunshine Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paulinho Posted July 17, 2025 Share Posted July 17, 2025 21 minutes ago, duo said: PIF need to become a bit more streetwise- they will not get us to number one if they don't start playing the game. Saudis bank rolled the CWC which is FIFA crown jewel. You can't tell me they haven't Infantinos ear. They need to start applying some of that influence to change the rules so it's an even playing field. FIFA governs UEFA right? The Saudis have one tactic and one tactic only - throw money at something. If there’s something stopping them from doing that - like PSR - they’re all out of ideas and the motivation disappears. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
andycap Posted July 17, 2025 Share Posted July 17, 2025 Have liverpool bid yet? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GallowgatePigeon Posted July 17, 2025 Share Posted July 17, 2025 2 minutes ago, Paulinho said: The Saudis have one tactic and one tactic only - throw money at something. If there’s something stopping them from doing that - like PSR - they’re all out of ideas and the motivation disappears. This. We are just one tile in PIFs mosaic and they've found out the hard way that they can't buy instant success so Yasir and his inner circle probably dont spend too much time worrying or thinking about us. This is where we need a good custodian, someone who has us at the forefront of their mind at every turn and juncture. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sibierski Posted July 17, 2025 Share Posted July 17, 2025 2 hours ago, Andy84 said: If at the start of this week it was released that Liverpool were advancing on Ekitike without all the Isak stuff no one would have batted an eyelid And that’s what upstairs for us is probably thinking. Likely giggling at the all the nonsense after one half hearted approach start of the week. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Groundhog63 Posted July 17, 2025 Share Posted July 17, 2025 15 minutes ago, Paulinho said: The Saudis have one tactic and one tactic only - throw money at something. If there’s something stopping them from doing that - like PSR - they’re all out of ideas and the motivation disappears. Tbf they do have another tactic but I'm not advocating for it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
duo Posted July 17, 2025 Share Posted July 17, 2025 (edited) 25 minutes ago, Paulinho said: The Saudis have one tactic and one tactic only - throw money at something. If there’s something stopping them from doing that - like PSR - they’re all out of ideas and the motivation disappears. They have already thrown money at Infantino time to start flexing that influence. They flexed their muscle when trying to buy Newcastle by getting the UK Government involved this is no different. Edited July 17, 2025 by duo Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBrownBottle Posted July 17, 2025 Share Posted July 17, 2025 50 minutes ago, duo said: PIF need to become a bit more streetwise- they will not get us to number one if they don't start playing the game. Saudis bank rolled the CWC which is FIFA crown jewel. You can't tell me they haven't Infantinos ear. They need to start applying some of that influence to change the rules so it's an even playing field. FIFA governs UEFA right? Nope Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
duo Posted July 17, 2025 Share Posted July 17, 2025 (edited) 3 minutes ago, TheBrownBottle said: Nope I think it does..https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/FIFA Besides its worldwide institutions, there are six confederations recognized by FIFA which oversee the game in the different continents and regions of the world. UEFA is one of them. They will certainly have influence over them Edited July 17, 2025 by duo Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBrownBottle Posted July 17, 2025 Share Posted July 17, 2025 Just now, duo said: I think it does..https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/FIFA Besides its worldwide institutions, there are six confederations recognized by FIFA which oversee the game in the different continents and regions of the world. UEFA is one of them FIFA can’t direct UEFA on its internal regs re club football Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keggy_Keagal Posted July 17, 2025 Share Posted July 17, 2025 55 minutes ago, duo said: PIF need to become a bit more streetwise- they will not get us to number one if they don't start playing the game. Saudis bank rolled the CWC which is FIFA crown jewel. You can't tell me they haven't Infantinos ear. They need to start applying some of that influence to change the rules so it's an even playing field. FIFA governs UEFA right? They got us to 4th 5th and a trophy so they're doing alright by me. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Armchair Pundit Posted July 17, 2025 Share Posted July 17, 2025 So, we've made an offer for Ekitike, Liverpool haven't. The rest is just noise from the various media outlets until something changes. Our past record of keeping our transfer business close to our chest, although sometimes frustrating, means we could suddenly spring something completely unexpected at any point... and I've decided to cling to that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
duo Posted July 17, 2025 Share Posted July 17, 2025 The cartel will continue to hold us back unless things change Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TBG Posted July 17, 2025 Share Posted July 17, 2025 42 minutes ago, andycap said: Have liverpool bid yet? Still considering formally contemplating registering their interest Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RUHRLYASLEEVESUP Posted July 17, 2025 Share Posted July 17, 2025 What a complete & utter clart on this has all been Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Armchair Pundit Posted July 17, 2025 Share Posted July 17, 2025 Just now, duo said: The cartel will continue to hold us back unless things change And that is exactly the purpose of PSR/FFP, as we all know - until it gets challenged legally, there's not much to be done about it. It does make me wonder though if that's why the Man City stuff is taking so inordinately long, because the league are scared the final result will open the floodgates if it goes against them. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Memphis Posted July 17, 2025 Share Posted July 17, 2025 Like the rest of us, I think the FFP/PSR system is absolutely rotten to the core and was designed/tweaked as a response to anger about the Saudi takeover. It is a rigged system that benefits the six teams that have already baked in commercial advantages. But it does exist. And I would bet you that adherence to it and refusal to fight it were both part of the agreement to allow the purchase to ultimately go through. So we have to deal with the bullshit. We are going after the very top talent available with a decided disadvantage. We are showing - in my mind - admirable ambition and doing our best to manipulate the market. We could have signed several middling players but we seem to be trying for the very best talent and going against the very top clubs in the process. That is obviously going to make the process lengthy and challenging. I know we are all scarred by the Ashley years but this is something completely different. We have bought significant talents and spent significant money - and after dealing with a bunch of PSR bullshit for a year+, we are spending again. Patience sucks and the process isn't perfect but I think we have acted well so far and there's no evidence we won't continue to do so this window, even if it ends up taking longer than we hoped. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gbandit Posted July 17, 2025 Share Posted July 17, 2025 (edited) We’ve been friendzoned so hard by this lad. Made us an album of photos together, said there was no one else he felt as comfortable with and then just as we were about to ask him out he delivered the cold hard truth that he doesn’t see us like that. An absolute fucking dagger Edited July 17, 2025 by gbandit Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
duo Posted July 17, 2025 Share Posted July 17, 2025 5 minutes ago, Armchair Pundit said: And that is exactly the purpose of PSR/FFP, as we all know - until it gets challenged legally, there's not much to be done about it. It does make me wonder though if that's why the Man City stuff is taking so inordinately long, because the league are scared the final result will open the floodgates if it goes against them. My point -which I seem to be failing to make - is PIF have just bank rolled FIFAs pet competition - FIFA will have some influence over UEFA so it's time for PIF to get them to use that influence to change these ridiculous rules. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Armchair Pundit Posted July 17, 2025 Share Posted July 17, 2025 (edited) Quote 5 minutes ago, gbandit said: We’ve been friendzoned so hard by this lad. Made us an album of photos together, said there was no one else he felt as comfortable with and then just as we were about to ask him out he delivered the cold hard truth that he doesn’t see us like that. An absolute fucking dagger Twice Edited July 17, 2025 by Armchair Pundit Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
relámpago blanco Posted July 17, 2025 Share Posted July 17, 2025 The fact that we are competing with Liverpool etc for transfers, we should all sit back and realise how far we've come and be extremely grateful for the position we are in. Let's not forget trying to get excited about Jeff Hendrick signing not long ago. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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