KaKa Posted January 11, 2022 Share Posted January 11, 2022 No longer believe we are actually looking at this geezer. Every hour a new club is cited as being interested in him. Someone is trying to drum up interest and is using Newcastle's name to make for splashy articles and to try and push for a big fee. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobbydazzla Posted January 11, 2022 Share Posted January 11, 2022 (edited) On 11/01/2022 at 17:08, Shearergol said: We wouldn't if they'd just been taken over and considered the richest club in the world though. If we're buying him to try and avoid relegation then, yeah, I get that. If we're buying him as we've recognised him as one of the most talented young prospects in Europe it's not really an issue is it. He'll go to Dortmund and we'll buy him in 3 years for £145m Expand In my opinion we should only be buying players that will help us avoid relegation. Fuck everything else right now as it's a waste of resources (time, people and money) during a short and difficult window. If we don't get relegated then we can enjoy having some wealth and chasing the most exciting prospects in Europe in the summer and beyond. Edited January 11, 2022 by bobbydazzla Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris_R Posted January 11, 2022 Share Posted January 11, 2022 On 11/01/2022 at 17:04, TRon said: Why? Are we going to run out of money? We can still sign strikers for right now as well. Expand We are, as it happens. We're being quoted £40m+ for anyone we look at, including this kid. We can maybe spend £200m this window. We need lots of players. Sure, we could spread costs over many years by amortising the cost or spreading the payments, but it still doesn't change that FFP will affect what we can spend and that if we DO blow everything now then we'll have sod-all to push on with in the summer. We have money, but we have to be a bit careful and get good deals for players who can make a difference now. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carlito Posted January 11, 2022 Share Posted January 11, 2022 At this point we should buy whoever we can get a bid accepted for Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ikon Posted January 11, 2022 Share Posted January 11, 2022 On 11/01/2022 at 17:25, Chris_R said: We are, as it happens. We're being quoted £40m+ for anyone we look at, including this kid. We can maybe spend £200m this window. We need lots of players. Sure, we could spread costs over many years by amortising the cost or spreading the payments, but it still doesn't change that FFP will affect what we can spend and that if we DO blow everything now then we'll have sod-all to push on with in the summer. We have money, but we have to be a bit careful and get good deals for players who can make a difference now. Expand We can spend much more than 200m.but we won't, and rightly so. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
et tu brute Posted January 11, 2022 Share Posted January 11, 2022 On 11/01/2022 at 17:25, Chris_R said: We are, as it happens. We're being quoted £40m+ for anyone we look at, including this kid. We can maybe spend £200m this window. We need lots of players. Sure, we could spread costs over many years by amortising the cost or spreading the payments, but it still doesn't change that FFP will affect what we can spend and that if we DO blow everything now then we'll have sod-all to push on with in the summer. We have money, but we have to be a bit careful and get good deals for players who can make a difference now. Expand You’re forgetting that is based on how the club currently stands and not on any forthcoming sponsorship/commercial revenue. That could/should by quite significant. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bizza Posted January 11, 2022 Share Posted January 11, 2022 Loan him back for the rest of the season, do they no realise that we need a striker NOW not in 5 months time? Taking the piss, bin them off and move onto the next target. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris_R Posted January 11, 2022 Share Posted January 11, 2022 (edited) On 11/01/2022 at 17:28, Ikon said: We can spend much more than 200m.but we won't, and rightly so. Expand On 11/01/2022 at 17:35, et tu brute said: You’re forgetting that is based on how the club currently stands and not on any forthcoming sponsorship/commercial revenue. That could/should by quite significant. Expand I mean I literally said we could spend more than £200m. I'm aware of how it works. But I also said why we should not. Sure, there's maths out there that says we can twist our way to £5-600m spend but then we'll end up like Everton, stuck in the middle and unable to improve until we offload some players. Sure, sponsorship could push it all up a bit further but it only adds a bit more, it doesn't completely rewrite the rules and anyway the other clubs are looking at ways to clamp down on that. Point remains, we do NOT have unlimited money - not in this transfer window or any others. If we had the full weight of PIF to just spend £800bn on whatever we wanted with no consequences then play on, but that's not the case here by a long way. There is no scope in the maths to spend £40m on a player who won't play for us for the rest of the season. Edited January 11, 2022 by Chris_R Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
et tu brute Posted January 11, 2022 Share Posted January 11, 2022 On 11/01/2022 at 17:39, Chris_R said: I mean I literally said we could spend more than £200m. I'm aware of how it works. But I also said why we should not. Sure, there's maths out there that says we can twist our way to £5-600m spend but then we'll end up like Everton, stuck in the middle and unable to improve until we offload some players. Sure, sponsorship could push it all up a bit further but it only adds a bit more, it doesn't completely rewrite the rules and anyway the other clubs are looking at ways to clamp down on that. Point remains, we do NOT have unlimited money - not in this transfer window or any others. If we had the full weight of PIF to just spend £800bn on whatever we wanted with no consequences then play on, but that's not the case here by a long way. There is no scope in the maths to spend £40m on a player who won't play for us for the rest of the season. Expand You said for the summer window, which by then availability for spending limits will have increased within FFP and will be totally different to what it is now. Nobody is expecting to spend 200 million this window, or if they do then they’re misguided. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Prophet Posted January 11, 2022 Share Posted January 11, 2022 As suspected earlier, this is 100% agent skulduggery. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
duo Posted January 11, 2022 Share Posted January 11, 2022 What's the latest? Have we put an offer in ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Awaymag Posted January 11, 2022 Share Posted January 11, 2022 On 11/01/2022 at 17:47, duo said: What's the latest? Have we put an offer in ? Expand We are monitoring Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris_R Posted January 11, 2022 Share Posted January 11, 2022 On 11/01/2022 at 17:45, et tu brute said: You said for the summer window, which by then availability for spending limits will have increased within FFP and will be totally different to what it is now. Nobody is expecting to spend 200 million this window, or if they do then they’re misguided. Expand Summer (if we can survive!) moves the needle a little, but not enough to change our entire strategy. It's just the next window. But if you think we cannot spend £200m this window, that just doubles down on the fact that we cannot buy this kid for £40m and send him back home for the rest of the year. Whatever we can spend now, we need for now. Sure, if we get in an SC, DC (*2?), DMC, AMC and RW in the next couple of weeks then maybe we can start to look at these kind of deals if there's enough money left. But that feels optimistic right now. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billy Pilgrim Posted January 11, 2022 Share Posted January 11, 2022 (edited) Yeah let’s give Reims 40m to keep this lad I’ve never heard of and who has sparked discussion of the relative merits of Shola Edited January 11, 2022 by Billy Pilgrim Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
et tu brute Posted January 11, 2022 Share Posted January 11, 2022 On 11/01/2022 at 17:53, Chris_R said: Summer (if we can survive!) moves the needle a little, but not enough to change our entire strategy. It's just the next window. But if you think we cannot spend £200m this window, that just doubles down on the fact that we cannot buy this kid for £40m and send him back home for the rest of the year. Whatever we can spend now, we need for now. Sure, if we get in an SC, DC (*2?), DMC, AMC and RW in the next couple of weeks then maybe we can start to look at these kind of deals if there's enough money left. But that feels optimistic right now. Expand Major incoming sponsorship/commercial revenue moves that needle quite a bit. I don’t expect them to spend £200 this window due to the very fact that it’s a hard window to get deals done, hugely inflated prices and players reluctant to come due to our position. I didn’t say they cannot spend it though, I’m quite sure if the restrictions I mentioned above were not in place, then in all likelihood they would. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gazzaschicken Posted January 11, 2022 Share Posted January 11, 2022 On 11/01/2022 at 17:47, duo said: What's the latest? Have we put an offer in ? Expand Informal monitoring meaning we have someone outside the training ground on a bench reading a newspaper with 2 holes cut in it to see out of Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gazzaschicken Posted January 11, 2022 Share Posted January 11, 2022 I will sell anyone my house if they want it but I will sell it for 8x it's value and I want to live in it for 6 months after I've sold it Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted January 11, 2022 Share Posted January 11, 2022 On 11/01/2022 at 17:28, Ikon said: We can spend much more than 200m.but we won't, and rightly so. Expand Right. And we are being told to do one for most of the players we are putting bids in for, so I have no problem in spending £30m on a potential future superstar, those are the sort of players we should be buying regardless. We are not going to be spending our quota this transfer window anyway, the way things are going. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
toontownman Posted January 11, 2022 Share Posted January 11, 2022 Imagining by the end of the week the folk screaming on Twitter about how Wood is terrible and potentially a horrific signing will be screaming for us to get him in to play against Watford. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Schecter Posted January 11, 2022 Share Posted January 11, 2022 Chris Wood coming up for a medical apparently according to a couple including the Edwards character. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
madras Posted January 11, 2022 Share Posted January 11, 2022 On 11/01/2022 at 18:34, Schecter said: Chris Wood coming up for a medical apparently according to a couple including the Edwards character. Expand Could mean we look less desperate for a forward so Reims don't have us so much over a barrel. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
duo Posted January 11, 2022 Share Posted January 11, 2022 On 11/01/2022 at 18:34, Schecter said: Chris Wood coming up for a medical apparently according to a couple including the Edwards character. Expand You know what - I'll take anything atm. Maybe that was their ploy- lower expectations. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
madras Posted January 11, 2022 Share Posted January 11, 2022 SSN transfer show bloke mentioned he'd just had a text off an agent "all focus on Ekitike and Newcastle, talks ongoing" Probs BS. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
khay Posted January 11, 2022 Share Posted January 11, 2022 Clearly getting Wood to play the one game against Watford while this guy sits out his suspension. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thiago Posted January 11, 2022 Share Posted January 11, 2022 They’re asking a lot for a relatively unproven striker. His highlight reel doesn’t scream elite talent, and there’s simply no benefit for us loaning him back. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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