Hugo Ekitike

[Carlito]

At this point we should buy whoever we can get a bid accepted for

[Ikon]

2 minutes ago, Chris_R said:

 

We are, as it happens.

 

We're being quoted £40m+ for anyone we look at, including this kid. We can maybe spend £200m this window. We need lots of players.

 

Sure, we could spread costs over many years by amortising the cost or spreading the payments, but it still doesn't change that FFP will affect what we can spend and that if we DO blow everything now then we'll have sod-all to push on with in the summer.

 

We have money, but we have to be a bit careful and get good deals for players who can make a difference now.

 

We can spend much more than 200m.but we won't, and rightly so. 

[et tu brute]

7 minutes ago, Chris_R said:

 

We are, as it happens.

 

We're being quoted £40m+ for anyone we look at, including this kid. We can maybe spend £200m this window. We need lots of players.

 

Sure, we could spread costs over many years by amortising the cost or spreading the payments, but it still doesn't change that FFP will affect what we can spend and that if we DO blow everything now then we'll have sod-all to push on with in the summer.

 

We have money, but we have to be a bit careful and get good deals for players who can make a difference now.

You’re forgetting that is based on how the club currently stands and not on any forthcoming sponsorship/commercial revenue. That could/should by quite significant.

[Bizza]

Loan him back for the rest of the season, do they no realise that we need a striker NOW not in 5 months time? Taking the piss, bin them off and move onto the next target. 

[Chris_R]

11 minutes ago, Ikon said:

 

We can spend much more than 200m.but we won't, and rightly so. 

 

4 minutes ago, et tu brute said:

You’re forgetting that is based on how the club currently stands and not on any forthcoming sponsorship/commercial revenue. That could/should by quite significant.

 

I mean I literally said we could spend more than £200m. I'm aware of how it works. But I also said why we should not. Sure, there's maths out there that says we can twist our way to £5-600m spend but then we'll end up like Everton, stuck in the middle and unable to improve until we offload some players.

 

Sure, sponsorship could push it all up a bit further but it only adds a bit more, it doesn't completely rewrite the rules and anyway the other clubs are looking at ways to clamp down on that.

 

Point remains, we do NOT have unlimited money - not in this transfer window or any others. If we had the full weight of PIF to just spend £800bn on whatever we wanted with no consequences then play on, but that's not the case here by a long way. There is no scope in the maths to spend £40m on a player who won't play for us for the rest of the season.

 

 

Edited January 11, 2022 by Chris_R

[et tu brute]

1 minute ago, Chris_R said:

 

 

I mean I literally said we could spend more than £200m. I'm aware of how it works. But I also said why we should not. Sure, there's maths out there that says we can twist our way to £5-600m spend but then we'll end up like Everton, stuck in the middle and unable to improve until we offload some players.

 

Sure, sponsorship could push it all up a bit further but it only adds a bit more, it doesn't completely rewrite the rules and anyway the other clubs are looking at ways to clamp down on that.

 

Point remains, we do NOT have unlimited money - not in this transfer window or any others. If we had the full weight of PIF to just spend £800bn on whatever we wanted with no consequences then play on, but that's not the case here by a long way. There is no scope in the maths to spend £40m on a player who won't play for us for the rest of the season.

 

 

 

You said for the summer window, which by then availability for spending limits will have increased within FFP and will be totally different to what it is now. Nobody is expecting to spend 200 million this window, or if they do then they’re misguided.

[The Prophet]

As suspected earlier, this is 100% agent skulduggery.

[duo]

What's the latest? Have we put an offer in ?

[Awaymag]

4 minutes ago, duo said:

What's the latest? Have we put an offer in ?

We are monitoring 

[Chris_R]

2 minutes ago, et tu brute said:

You said for the summer window, which by then availability for spending limits will have increased within FFP and will be totally different to what it is now. Nobody is expecting to spend 200 million this window, or if they do then they’re misguided.

 

Summer (if we can survive!) moves the needle a little, but not enough to change our entire strategy. It's just the next window. But if you think we cannot spend £200m this window, that just doubles down on the fact that we cannot buy this kid for £40m and send him back home for the rest of the year.

 

Whatever we can spend now, we need for now. Sure, if we get in an SC, DC (*2?), DMC, AMC and RW in the next couple of weeks then maybe we can start to look at these kind of deals if there's enough money left. But that feels optimistic right now.

[Billy Pilgrim]

Yeah let’s give Reims 40m to keep this lad I’ve never heard of and who has sparked discussion of the relative merits of Shola

 

 

Edited January 11, 2022 by Billy Pilgrim

[et tu brute]

2 minutes ago, Chris_R said:

 

Summer (if we can survive!) moves the needle a little, but not enough to change our entire strategy. It's just the next window. But if you think we cannot spend £200m this window, that just doubles down on the fact that we cannot buy this kid for £40m and send him back home for the rest of the year.

 

Whatever we can spend now, we need for now. Sure, if we get in an SC, DC (*2?), DMC, AMC and RW in the next couple of weeks then maybe we can start to look at these kind of deals if there's enough money left. But that feels optimistic right now.

Major incoming sponsorship/commercial revenue moves that needle quite a bit. I don’t expect them to spend £200 this window due to the very fact that it’s a hard window to get deals done, hugely inflated prices and players reluctant to come due to our position. I didn’t say they cannot spend it though, I’m quite sure if the restrictions I mentioned above were not in place, then in all likelihood they would.

[Gazzaschicken]

18 minutes ago, duo said:

What's the latest? Have we put an offer in ?

Informal monitoring meaning we have someone outside the training ground on a bench reading a newspaper with 2 holes cut in it to see out of

[Gazzaschicken]

I will sell anyone my house if they want it but I will sell it for 8x it's value and I want to live in it for 6 months after I've sold it

[TRon]

40 minutes ago, Ikon said:

 

We can spend much more than 200m.but we won't, and rightly so. 

 

Right. And we are being told to do one for most of the players we are putting bids in for, so I have no problem in spending £30m on a potential future superstar, those are the sort of players we should be buying regardless. We are not going to be spending our quota this transfer window anyway, the way things are going. 

[toontownman]

Imagining by the end of the week the folk screaming on Twitter about how Wood is terrible and potentially a horrific signing will be screaming for us to get him in to play against Watford.

 

 

[Schecter]

Chris Wood coming up for a medical apparently according to a couple including the Edwards character.

[madras]

7 minutes ago, Schecter said:

Chris Wood coming up for a medical apparently according to a couple including the Edwards character.

Could mean we look less desperate for a forward so Reims don't have us so much over a barrel.

[duo]

7 minutes ago, Schecter said:

Chris Wood coming up for a medical apparently according to a couple including the Edwards character.

You know what - I'll take anything atm.  Maybe that was their ploy- lower expectations.

[madras]

SSN transfer show bloke mentioned he'd just had a text off an agent "all focus on Ekitike and Newcastle, talks ongoing"

 

Probs BS.

[khay]

Clearly getting Wood to play the one game against Watford while this guy sits out his suspension. 

[Thiago]

They’re asking a lot for a relatively unproven striker. His highlight reel doesn’t scream elite talent, and there’s simply no benefit for us loaning him back.

[LRD]

Sell-on clause after wanting so much upfront and loan back is ridiculous. We need bodies now. Plus if we loan him back, what if he gets injured?

 

Impossible terms.

[r0cafella]

2 minutes ago, LRD said:

Sell-on clause after wanting so much upfront and loan back is ridiculous. We need bodies now. Plus if we loan him back, what if he gets injured?

 

Impossible terms.

Reims and Lille ownership are clearly best mates like

 

outrageous terms (which they are of course free to demand). 

[Pandamninator]

8 hours ago, ManDoon said:

Like someone else said like I wrestled with the moral aspect of this takeover not for like Chris Wood. Aware he’s better than nothing but still 

 

Look at some of the trash Man City signed the first January window after their takeover.  In 2022 I would call the Bellamy and De Jong prices an overpay, let alone in 2009.

 

3 January 2009DF Wayne Bridge Chelsea£10M[25][26]

19 January 2009FW Craig Bellamy West Ham United£14M[27][28]

21 January 2009MF Nigel de Jong Hamburger SV£16M[29][30]

1 February 2009GK Shay Given Newcastle United£5.9M[31][32][33]

 

Even the second season was shoddy and scattergun outside of Tevez and Gareth Barry

 

1 July 2009MF Gareth Barry Aston Villa£12,000,000[27][28]

1 July 2009FW Roque Santa Cruz Blackburn Rovers£18,000,000[29][30]

1 July 2009GK Stuart Taylor Aston VillaFree[31][32]

13 July 2009FW Carlos Tevez MSI£25,500,000[33][34]

18 July 2009FW Emmanuel Adebayor Arsenal£25,000,000[35][36]

29 July 2009DF Kolo Touré Arsenal£16,000,000[37][38]

24 Aug 2009DF Sylvinho BarcelonaFree[39][40]

25 Aug 2009DF Joleon Lescott Everton£22,000,000[41][42]

 

 

 

 

 

Edited January 12, 2022 by Pandamninator