Beth Posted January 12, 2022 Share Posted January 12, 2022 Just now, The Prophet said: I've known someone frame every single topic in such a relentlessly negative way that isn't being deliberately obtuse or on the wind up. Yes I'm naturally pessimistic but what is positive about the club apart from us being rich? All the players bar Wilson and ASM are dogshit and I think the manager was the wrong choice as well. I hope he and the new signings prove me wrong and keep us up but its hardly been a good start has it? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mighty__mag Posted January 12, 2022 Share Posted January 12, 2022 If we beat Watford and it's because Wood was involved in anything that contributed to the win if he otherwise hadn't have signed, then I'll assume the legs around the head position and suck my own balls. Until then, he's still a cunt of a signing. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carlito Posted January 12, 2022 Share Posted January 12, 2022 1 minute ago, Beth said: Yes I'm naturally pessimistic but what is positive about the club apart from us being rich? All the players bar Wilson and ASM are dogshit and I think the manager was the wrong choice as well. I hope he and the new signings prove me wrong and keep us up but its hardly been a good start has it? Joelinton has been our best player since Howe took over. Never thought that would happen but it has. I'm expecting Dummett to return in disguise as Roberto Carlos. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Prophet Posted January 12, 2022 Share Posted January 12, 2022 (edited) 12 minutes ago, Beth said: Yes I'm naturally pessimistic but what is positive about the club apart from us being rich? All the players bar Wilson and ASM are dogshit and I think the manager was the wrong choice as well. I hope he and the new signings prove me wrong and keep us up but its hardly been a good start has it? Oh there's a lot to be negative about, particularly on the pitch. On the other hand we're four months free of Mike Ashley, we have owners that want to and are trying to improve the club and a manager who is slowly but surely turning things round on the pitch. Regardless of what happens this season, there's a lot more to be positive than there was four to five months ago, it's not all doom and gloom. Apologies if you're not a mackem, it was in jest Edited January 12, 2022 by The Prophet Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stottie Posted January 12, 2022 Share Posted January 12, 2022 Just on the issue of whether Wood's been poor this season, his xG (5) is similar to Gabriel Jesus off the same appearances and a similar minutes played. Jesus has scored 2, Wood 3. Calvert Lewin, a 40M?? striker, has three goals off 4.11 xG. Wilson has three more goals off just over 5xG, but from less time on the pitch. Wilson has scored from a single chance a few times this season, e.g. Spurs home. I have many doubts about xG, but its a rough guide as to whether players are getting into goalscoring positions. Over the long term, top strikers will score more than xG, maybe 20% above, decent ones the same, and poor ones less. With the squad we have, no fit striker means losing our best wide player and door opener, or losing recently our best box-to-box midfielder, just to have someone inferior playing up top. If Wood plays against Watford and Leeds, expect those other two to contribute much more effectively. I know losing to Cambridge was embarrassing, but Joelinton had two free attempts from corners. Score one of them, as you'd expect a striker to, and we are not in the headlines. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid Icarus Posted January 12, 2022 Share Posted January 12, 2022 Hadn't realised that our last game of the season is away to Burnley. Not sure I'll be able to handle the narrative if it's winner stays up. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted January 12, 2022 Share Posted January 12, 2022 3 minutes ago, Stottie said: Just on the issue of whether Wood's been poor this season, his xG (5) is similar to Gabriel Jesus off the same appearances and a similar minutes played. Jesus has scored 2, Wood 3. Calvert Lewin, a 40M?? striker, has three goals off 4.11 xG. Wilson has three more goals off just over 5xG, but from less time on the pitch. Wilson has scored from a single chance a few times this season, e.g. Spurs home. I have many doubts about xG, but its a rough guide as to whether players are getting into goalscoring positions. Over the long term, top strikers will score more than xG, maybe 20% above, decent ones the same, and poor ones less. With the squad we have, no fit striker means losing our best wide player and door opener, or losing recently our best box-to-box midfielder, just to have someone inferior playing up top. If Wood plays against Watford and Leeds, expect those other two to contribute much more effectively. I know losing to Cambridge was embarrassing, but Joelinton had two free attempts from corners. Score one of them, as you'd expect a striker to, and we are not in the headlines. Top posting. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
HawK Posted January 12, 2022 Share Posted January 12, 2022 22 minutes ago, mighty__mag said: If we beat Watford and it's because Wood was involved in anything that contributed to the win if he otherwise hadn't have signed, then I'll assume the legs around the head position and suck my own balls. Until then, he's still a cunt of a signing. Is Pissi still around? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Biggsbond14 Posted January 12, 2022 Share Posted January 12, 2022 30 minutes ago, ManDoon said: Think we are struggling because clubs are really trying to fleece us, and asking insane fees. Just my opinion of course. Cash rich club, openly desperate, weak in a few positions = ridiculous agent fuckery Trippier didn’t cost much and other clubs aren’t selling due to champions league etc ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Biggsbond14 Posted January 12, 2022 Share Posted January 12, 2022 14 minutes ago, Stottie said: Just on the issue of whether Wood's been poor this season, his xG (5) is similar to Gabriel Jesus off the same appearances and a similar minutes played. Jesus has scored 2, Wood 3. Calvert Lewin, a 40M?? striker, has three goals off 4.11 xG. Wilson has three more goals off just over 5xG, but from less time on the pitch. Wilson has scored from a single chance a few times this season, e.g. Spurs home. I have many doubts about xG, but its a rough guide as to whether players are getting into goalscoring positions. Over the long term, top strikers will score more than xG, maybe 20% above, decent ones the same, and poor ones less. With the squad we have, no fit striker means losing our best wide player and door opener, or losing recently our best box-to-box midfielder, just to have someone inferior playing up top. If Wood plays against Watford and Leeds, expect those other two to contribute much more effectively. I know losing to Cambridge was embarrassing, but Joelinton had two free attempts from corners. Score one of them, as you'd expect a striker to, and we are not in the headlines. Because joelinton is shit Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vinny Green Balls Posted January 12, 2022 Share Posted January 12, 2022 (edited) 37 minutes ago, ManDoon said: Think we are struggling because clubs are really trying to fleece us, and asking insane fees. Just my opinion of course. Cash rich club, openly desperate, weak in a few positions = ridiculous agent fuckery Probably some of this, but our awful position is not exactly helping either, as you well know. But if we weren't so desperate for Watford, 2 signings in the first 11 days is abnormally good for this club, given the past years under the fat man. Edited January 12, 2022 by Vinny Green Balls Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mighty__mag Posted January 12, 2022 Share Posted January 12, 2022 11 minutes ago, HawK said: Is Pissi still around? Dude you lost me, does he suck his own stones? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris_R Posted January 12, 2022 Share Posted January 12, 2022 48 minutes ago, ManDoon said: Think we are struggling because clubs are really trying to fleece us, and asking insane fees. Just my opinion of course. Cash rich club, openly desperate, weak in a few positions = ridiculous agent fuckery We probably are getting the raw end of it, but agents have no say over transfer fees. If anything, agents want LOWER transfer fees because then there's more money left for their client's wages. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pandamninator Posted January 12, 2022 Share Posted January 12, 2022 10 minutes ago, mighty__mag said: Dude you lost me, does he suck his own stones? Made a bet that he would drink his own piss if Nolan scored 6 goals in the first season post promotion. Hilarity ensued. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mighty__mag Posted January 12, 2022 Share Posted January 12, 2022 1 minute ago, Pandamninator said: Made a bet that he would drink his own piss if Nolan scored 6 goals in the first season post promotion. Hilarity ensued. Respect?? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanshithispantz Posted January 12, 2022 Share Posted January 12, 2022 The more I think about it the more I realise he's going to bang 15 goals in for us by the end of the season. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
elbee909 Posted January 12, 2022 Share Posted January 12, 2022 1 minute ago, Hanshithispantz said: The more I think about it the more I realise he's going to bang 15 goals in for us by the end of the season. All of them against Watford. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaqen Posted January 12, 2022 Share Posted January 12, 2022 It's a bit uninspiring but probably a sensible transfer in our position. Experienced target man who's pretty much always scored goals in the league and significantly weakens a direct rival. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pandamninator Posted January 12, 2022 Share Posted January 12, 2022 As a Kiwi, i'm probably drinking the Kool Aid but honestly, I have no issue with the Wood signing. I see him and Trippier doing what Matthew Etherington and James Beattie did for Stoke the season we went down. They were both signed in January in the midst of a relegation battle so one could whip crosses at the others head for 4 months, safety was secured and Beattie was immediately turfed from the First XI. I have no issues with paying that money if Wood gets us half a dozen vital goals and is used as a substitute/cups striker from thereon. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
elbee909 Posted January 12, 2022 Share Posted January 12, 2022 13 minutes ago, Pandamninator said: As a Kiwi, i'm probably drinking the Kool Aid but honestly, I have no issue with the Wood signing. I see him and Trippier doing what Matthew Etherington and James Beattie did for Stoke the season we went down. They were both signed in January in the midst of a relegation battle so one could whip crosses at the others head for 4 months, safety was secured and Beattie was immediately turfed from the First XI. I have no issues with paying that money if Wood gets us half a dozen vital goals and is used as a substitute/cups striker from thereon. This. Also it's too bloody hot for me. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
prefabtoon Posted January 12, 2022 Share Posted January 12, 2022 We where always going to struggle signing players in the current position we are in. Also with the world cup coming up. all the top players need to be seen playing at the top clubs. And our poor position doesn't merit any top players coming in. We are I'm afraid going down this season and its all down to fat mike. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nufcjb Posted January 12, 2022 Share Posted January 12, 2022 Happy with this. A PL striker, most importantly in before the Watford game. I said previously, we've been knocking crosses in, we've been creating chances, flashing the ball across goal with no one capable of sticking them in. Woods will hopefully put one or two of those chances in. Much better option than having ASM playing and dancing up top on his own and then see his trick knock off his shin and out of play. Or Jacob Murphy having a one on one with the keeper and chipping it as soft as a soggy chips into the keepers arms. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
HaydnNUFC Posted January 12, 2022 Share Posted January 12, 2022 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stottie Posted January 12, 2022 Share Posted January 12, 2022 1 hour ago, prefabtoon said: We where always going to struggle signing players in the current position we are in. Also with the world cup coming up. all the top players need to be seen playing at the top clubs. And our poor position doesn't merit any top players coming in. We are I'm afraid going down this season and its all down to fat mike. I think this is too negative. What we have is a joke of a squad with no forwards. Well, a great but brittle one, an unfavoured (or anyone's guess) one, and one who's playing as a box-to-box midfielder. We need two, possibly three forwards, Wood is one of them, and he'll feature in our first league game in January. So mission #1 accomplished. I hope we get a big name forward, on loan would do, but it's much more likely when the pressure of the window closing starts to bite. Our position relative to sellers will dramatically strengthen then. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cosmic Posted January 12, 2022 Share Posted January 12, 2022 If Woods just score only 3 more goals for the season but all winning goals to get us 9 points, he will be worth his weight in gold; all 90 kg of him Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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