Jesse Lingard

[DJ_NUFC]

18 minutes ago, Clockwork Cheese said:

 

Watch podcast on Marc Birchall who was a coach at QPR at the time. He said that all the players coming in were on massive money, relegation get out clauses the lot - whilst likes of Jamie Mackie, Shaun Derry, Clint Hill were still on relative peanuts. 

 

Explained that basically, whilst splitting the dressing room in cliques, it became a situation where the lesser paid players would have rightly had no motivation to give a fuck either - they would have earned more money in Championship than in PL *more games, so more match bonuses* - only their professionalism would have seen them commit, whilst Djbril Cisse refused to play because his bit on the side didn't shag him night before, or the club having to pay off Samba Diakhate's Witch Doctor curse so that he could train pre-season.  

 

 

 

this would have been some Netflix special. 

[Clockwork Cheese]

2 minutes ago, DJ_NUFC said:

this would have been some Netflix special. 

 

Have a google, QPR Four Year Plan! 

 

Pretty funny stories in part 2 of that podcast about him being in caretaker charge for 1 game whilst it was being filmed, but none of the footage going in to doc. 

[Sima]

1 hour ago, relámpago blanco said:

Weird comparison. 

29 year old bit-part England midfielder leaving a bigger club to go to a team hurtling towards relegation on a short-term deal?

 

Aye, absolutely zero comparison.

 

 

[TRon]

5 hours ago, Clockwork Cheese said:

 

Watch podcast on Marc Birchall who was a coach at QPR at the time. He said that all the players coming in were on massive money, relegation get out clauses the lot - whilst likes of Jamie Mackie, Shaun Derry, Clint Hill were still on relative peanuts. 

 

Explained that basically, whilst splitting the dressing room in cliques, it became a situation where the lesser paid players would have rightly had no motivation to give a fuck either - they would have earned more money in Championship than in PL *more games, so more match bonuses* - only their professionalism would have seen them commit, whilst Djbril Cisse refused to play because his bit on the side didn't shag him night before, or the club having to pay off Samba Diakhate's Witch Doctor curse so that he could train pre-season.  

 

 

 

 

 

Wtf has any of this got to do with Lingard? 

[LRD]

 

[Chris_R]

On 21/01/2022 at 16:57, Ste said:

He absolutely takes the pressure off ASM and makes opposition defences focus on someone other than him. We are so easy to defend against currently. 

 

This for me is why we need Lingard or someone of his ilk.

 

Right now when we attack, the opposition just stick 2 or 3 men on ASM and wait for him and bank on him not being able to get past everyone. We're so easy to thwart. We're desperate to be able to attack in multiple areas of the pitch and have more than one creative threat.

[Ikon]

Have a feeling they're just gonna waste our time..

[Kid Icarus]

Eh, they've rejected the second loan offer? 

[r0cafella]

8 minutes ago, Kid Icarus said:

Eh, they've rejected the second loan offer? 

I think where being discussed is a third offer. 

[OverThere]

I doubt Man U will deal with us as helping us go down would delay the competition for a further year. Move on 

[Alan Pardew]

4 minutes ago, OverThere said:

I doubt Man U will deal with us as helping us go down would delay the competition for a further year. Move on 

Exactly. Why would they help us? They don't need the money.

[TRon]

8 minutes ago, Alan Pardew said:

Exactly. Why would they help us? They don't need the money.

 

The Glazers don't strike me as the type who will overlook raking in some cash. 

[Alan Pardew]

Perhaps. But the way they are letting players who can barely get a cup game these days (Lingaard, Jones, Mata) run down contracts instead of selling or loaning them out is strange. 

[Jackie Broon]

1 minute ago, TRon said:

 

The Glazers don't strike me as the type who will overlook raking in some cash. 

 

But that's nowhere near what another club competing for the top 4 places would potentially cost them.

[LRD]

Man U: we want a 10m fee for a permanent transfer

Lingard: I will only join on loan

Us: pays 10m, includes 7m relegation clause

 

Sorted.

 

 

 

[TRon]

2 minutes ago, Jackie Broon said:

 

But that's nowhere near what another club competing for the top 4 places would potentially cost them.

 

Yes I could understand that if we were West Ham or Spurs, but we aren't competing for a top 4 place. 

[Jackie Broon]

Just now, TRon said:

 

Yes I could understand that if we were West Ham or Spurs, but we aren't competing for a top 4 place. 

 

But they are concerned that we will be, concerned enough to hold an emergency No Newcastles meeting and change PL rules to try to restrict our owners ability to invest in the club.

[jackyboy]

On 19/01/2022 at 11:27, CFlan said:

This is the kinda deal that should’ve been done in the first week in Jan. 

Loan deals tend to happen towards the end of the transfer window

[TRon]

2 minutes ago, Jackie Broon said:

 

But they are concerned that we will be, concerned enough to hold an emergency No Newcastles meeting and change PL rules to try to restrict our owners ability to invest in the club.

 

If that's their thinking then not much we can do about it, but they aren't going to stop us by refusing to sell Lingard. We'll just buy someone else. I can understand them trying to hobble us by forcing some rule changes, but that's the only way of stopping us. We've got all the money, our rise is inevitable. Refusing to sell us Lingard strikes me as a bit like pissing in the wind. 

[jackyboy]

If teams let us sign players which will keep us up it means we will become a threat to them sooner rather than later. For that reason the top six won't be looking to assist us in any way. We already have the referees with a mandate to award us nothing and so it goes on

[nbthree3]

https://www.90min.com/posts/newcastle-make-10m-loan-offer-for-jesse-lingard

 

Newcastle United have made a fresh move for Jesse Lingard and have offered Manchester United £10m to loan the England midfielder for the rest of the season, 90min understands.

Newcastle and Man Utd have been locked in talks for most of January and as yet the two clubs have not come to agreement, but the Magpies have now made an offer that they expect to be accepted.

 

Newcastle are ready to offer Lingard around £150,000-a-week for the rest of the season, plus a huge bonus if he keeps them up and there will be no commitment on his side to stay, although there will be a contract offer for him.

Should Newcastle fail to bring in Lingard, we understand that the Magpies have held talks in the last week about possible deals for Tottenham's Dele Alli and Chelsea's Ross Barkley.

[SUPERTOON]

 

[Jackie Broon]

16 minutes ago, TRon said:

 

If that's their thinking then not much we can do about it, but they aren't going to stop us by refusing to sell Lingard. We'll just buy someone else. I can understand them trying to hobble us by forcing some rule changes, but that's the only way of stopping us. We've got all the money, our rise is inevitable. Refusing to sell us Lingard strikes me as a bit like pissing in the wind. 

 

We've got a week left in the window, there's every chance we won't have time to sort out a deal for someone else.

 

It's not pissing in the wind, if we do stay up it will probably be by very fine margins, one player like Lingard could easily make the difference between staying up and going down.

[gbandit]

Both Lingard and Alli are risks, really don’t know who I’d prefer as the pros and cons are quite different. Alli appeared to have a far higher ceiling but perhaps down to his attitude or mentality his game has gone backwards for years. Lingard has a lower ceiling but has shown he can deliver short-term from his loan spell with West Ham. Neither of them have been getting enough minutes to judge them at all. Of course I’d be desperate for either currently so we can’t be too picky 

[DoricGinola]

If true, forget him and move on. We need players committed to getting us out this mess.