Kid Icarus Posted September 5, 2025 Share Posted September 5, 2025 Same thing's happening again Player says something Mild criticism Overreaction to the mild criticism. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
54 Posted September 5, 2025 Share Posted September 5, 2025 8 minutes ago, Kid Icarus said: Same thing's happening again Player says something Mild criticism Overreaction to the mild criticism. People comment on the overreaction to the mild criticism. FYP Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Posted September 5, 2025 Share Posted September 5, 2025 tbh Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid Icarus Posted September 5, 2025 Share Posted September 5, 2025 3 minutes ago, 54 said: FYP All part of the cycle Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gdm Posted September 5, 2025 Share Posted September 5, 2025 2 hours ago, STM said: Looks like we have "a problem" with Dan too. Seems to misrepresent the issue Newcastle fans have with Alex. It’s not about him wanting to leave it’s how he went about it and not playing games is why we are pissed off Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yorkie Posted September 5, 2025 Share Posted September 5, 2025 I wish the players wouldn't speak so mildly about him but then again if they're not fuming with him, then maybe we can have license to not be fuming as well. I would generally prefer not to harbour hatred. That said, my lasting emotion is more of intense disappointment and a sense of being jilted rather than hate anyway. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
11Tino11 Posted September 5, 2025 Share Posted September 5, 2025 The players can't really be anything other than diplomatic in this situation because if they say what we want them to say then the press either get to run non stop Isak feud stories to keep the engagement bait going for another few weeks or they bring out their pre prepared gotcha response with regards Wissa and make it look like he's indirectly criticising his new teammate. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
M4 Posted September 5, 2025 Share Posted September 5, 2025 (edited) They can surely be diplomatic without "misrepresenting the issue" (Which I read higher up the thread and is the perfect term). Burn saying "you know what Newcastle fans are like" doesn't sit right as it's needlessly reductive. But this is such a tedious subject that is continuing to be exhausting. All for a battle that we've already lost anyway. Meh. Edited September 5, 2025 by M4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Duper Branko Strupar Posted September 5, 2025 Share Posted September 5, 2025 21 minutes ago, Yorkie said: I wish the players wouldn't speak so mildly about him but then again if they're not fuming with him, then maybe we can have license to not be fuming as well. I would generally prefer not to harbour hatred. That said, my lasting emotion is more of intense disappointment and a sense of being jilted rather than hate anyway. Oh I'm fuming with him, I'm sure players are as well, but I understand they're not going to publicly state it. Going on strike, refusing to train or play, threatening to not play till January, turning it in to his decision and not ours etc etc are all valid reason to hate the cunt. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
STM Posted September 5, 2025 Share Posted September 5, 2025 23 minutes ago, Yorkie said: I wish the players wouldn't speak so mildly about him but then again if they're not fuming with him, then maybe we can have license to not be fuming as well. I would generally prefer not to harbour hatred. That said, my lasting emotion is more of intense disappointment and a sense of being jilted rather than hate anyway. I vote for anger. Its a fantastic motivating tool. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
STM Posted September 5, 2025 Share Posted September 5, 2025 1 minute ago, Super Duper Branko Strupar said: Oh I'm fuming with him, I'm sure players are as well, but I understand they're not going to publicly state it. Going on strike, refusing to train or play, threatening to not play till January, turning it in to his decision and not ours etc etc are all valid reason to hate the cunt. Goooood. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NE28 Posted September 5, 2025 Share Posted September 5, 2025 Got to imagine all the players going on international duty were briefed by our pr department about what they should say when they were asked. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted September 5, 2025 Share Posted September 5, 2025 1 hour ago, KennyUtd said: Honestly lads man come on. What's he supposed to say. Even if he felt some resentment he's not gonna tear into Isak at an England press conference. Some of these young lads are showing much more maturity than this board ffs. He's a fuckin cunt who has ruined his legacy so we now concentrate on the boys that want to play for us. Dan Burn's attitude and application can never be questioned either. Clearly some of this 'changing room are livid' was just bullshit. I don't think I could get mad at a pal who wanted to better himself. Even if it made my job a bit harder for a while. I absolutely despise the way he's gone about things but I'm now just happy he's not part of our tight knit squad anymore. Said it in the Isak thread a couple of hrs ago as well. We tend to forget these players have been friends and associates for three years now. While they will be disappointed to lose a team mate, they understand careers are short and every player has their own interests at heart. They are going to see things differently from fans. Even if they are disappointed they are probably not going to want to have a go at them publicly. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beren Posted September 5, 2025 Share Posted September 5, 2025 58 minutes ago, Super Duper Branko Strupar said: I'm sure players are as well What makes you so sure? My view is: A) I don't think Burn is that good of an actor. B) I don't think that Burn is disingenuous enough to call him a mate. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holloway Posted September 5, 2025 Share Posted September 5, 2025 Of course there'll be players fuming with him, the emotional types we have. We certainly wob't be privy to those conversations though Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Duper Branko Strupar Posted September 5, 2025 Share Posted September 5, 2025 51 minutes ago, Beren said: What makes you so sure? My view is: A) I don't think Burn is that good of an actor. B) I don't think that Burn is disingenuous enough to call him a mate. He abandoned them during a pre season tour and beyond. He compromised our start to an important season. He by all accounts acted a twat when he was forced to be around the training ground etc. I'm sure there are varying levels of annoyance amongst varying players. I'm sure some will be annoyed whilst also "getting it" and still being his mate. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
duo Posted September 5, 2025 Share Posted September 5, 2025 Dan got it so wrong - just doesn't understand why the fans were upset. Disappointing. As a club though we can't take the higher ground as we signed Gordon and Wissa who pretty much behaved the same as Isak. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
andycap Posted September 5, 2025 Share Posted September 5, 2025 Could just say look he's gone, good luck to the lad. That would do not this I understand malarkey then totally not understand in your very next sentence. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
andycap Posted September 5, 2025 Share Posted September 5, 2025 I'd love to see bruno get asked about isak. Probably start the isak greedy bastard chant. 😂 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Likelylad Posted September 5, 2025 Share Posted September 5, 2025 “You know what Newcastle fans are like.” That kind of nonsense doesn’t do us any favours and plays up daft stereotypes that the media and other fans run with. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coffee_Johnny Posted September 5, 2025 Share Posted September 5, 2025 Fuck me, this thread is doing my head in. Get over yourselves. Burn would/should give you a slap if you came out with anything disrespectful towards him for making perfectly reasonable comments about the Voldemort issue. He knows him was/is a friend. That trumps anything the black hearted one has done (he is, obvs, no friend of mine). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBrownBottle Posted September 5, 2025 Share Posted September 5, 2025 BDB gives nowt away in a press conference on England duty The lad is a good pro, he’s going to do nothing but that. He’s hardly likely to say ‘ahm ganna dee the cunt next time ah see him’ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wiseman Posted September 5, 2025 Share Posted September 5, 2025 Absolutely no issue for me what he's said there, BDB would know what the issue is, handing the questions the way he did draws a line under the sand. If he were to address the actual issue of isak going on strike the next question obviously becomes about wissa doing the same, and then opens a whole can of hypocrisy worms for him and the squad to deal with. This diplomatic answer would've been the advice given to him, and is right at home with how Howe would want it done. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kimbo Posted September 5, 2025 Share Posted September 5, 2025 Players are media trained to say as little as possible and be as inoffensive as possible, what they say in interviews and press conferences are irrelevant and aren’t representative of anything IMO. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
soyt Posted September 5, 2025 Share Posted September 5, 2025 36 minutes ago, Coffee_Johnny said: Fuck me, this thread is doing my head in. Get over yourselves. Burn would/should give you a slap if you came out with anything disrespectful towards him for making perfectly reasonable comments about the Voldemort issue. He knows him was/is a friend. That trumps anything the black hearted one has done (he is, obvs, no friend of mine). Just for trying to understand how others think or feel: Is there anything your friend could do that would make you not want to be a friend with him anymore? I mean people fall out all the time right? I can think of many things that my friends could do that would turn the friendship very sour. I would think money-hungry prat pissing all over my team and teammates would be one, but i then again, some people do not (Like Burn, Botman or Gordon). Having said that, they can feel how they like but i cant really understand why would they come out with it, as they surely know how the fans feel. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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