England’s Dan Burn - Signs Contract Extension until 2027 (Official)

[Pata]

22 minutes ago, The Prophet said:

Though he was alright yesterday.

 

Got exposed for the first, but you have to be asking how they played through us with a single pass.

 

The goal is just as much on Botman and Miley as it was on Burn and MGW's pass was inch perfect tbh. First Elanga chance would've been tough for anyone as a contested ball on midfield quickly turned into a through ball and Elanga got a head start due to his good positioning and movement. Thought he was fine yesterday overall and don't have many complaints but he seems to have a massive spotlight on him right now as some fans look for a scapegoat.

[St. Maximin]

I tend to agree with the criticism of him, but I think lack of pace and poor positioning can be levelled against the other defenders too and so it seems harsh he gets more. Difference is they should all be first choice despite that, whereas I can’t see why Tino isn’t at LB. The fact Howe has sometimes made that switch early says a lot. You can’t have a regularly struggling starting left-back. 
 

Sure he’s had some great games recently and had a strong second-half yesterday too. Imo he’s absolutely an option for deeper and more defensive spells. But he’s had a huge hand in several goals recently and clearly being targeted. Cost of that can’t be ignored. 

[Tsunami]

When we lose possession towards to oppo 18 yard box we don’t have the pace to get back into position against a lot of teams. We’ve then the issue of a lack of pace in defense and BDB in particular.

 

Bruno couldn’t track MGB for his early chance and I’m pretty sure for Elanga’s goal Bruno didn’t have the legs when we lost possession high up the pitch.

 

Forest played a couple of no look passes into an area where they thought Burn would be caught out.

 

We got a bit lucky imo, Forest are average at best and we played to their strengths again. 
 

Bruno, Miley and Longstaff will always struggle as a trio when we lose cheap possession in advanced positions.

[JonBez comesock]

He’s a bottom of the premier league plodder 

 

great attitude / good leader with average ability 

 

Has been a good solid player for us , but along with Miggy 

 

He isn’t going to get us to where we want to be 

 

Wilson - is the same now (need better) 

[Pata]

I'm certain I read these same comments about Wilson a year ago before he scored in pretty much every game. Please give him some time, he was probably forced to a bigger role than his fitness warrants right now due to Isak's injury.

[The College Dropout]

On 23/09/2023 at 17:51, The College Dropout said:

 

He’s targeted defensively one on one and that’s a massive weakness of his. And he’s totally ignored by opposition (and some of our own players) when in attacking positions. And his distribution is sometimes poor. 
 

He’s great at centre back things (for a fullback) like defending the box, fully committed and he gets his head on a lot of set pieces. But he’s not a good centre back (for a team with ambitions of playing in the CL consistently) Ben White, Gvardiol, Ake, Akanji - these all play fullback for their clubs. But they are genuine class CBs. Ake is one of the reasons Botman barely has an international cap.  He’s an almost top level CB and uses those skills at FB.  Burn is a limited CB who is an even more limited FB.  
 

I like Burns profile as a fullback.  The 2 best teams in the country play with players of that profile. Real Madrid won the CL with a ‘stay at home’ FB in Mendy. The problem is he’s not that good at it. Defensively and offensively. 
 

He still brings a lot to the team.  I’ve assumed Sheff like to play direct and will be a threat on set pieces so Burn will be very useful there. But I’d like to see Hall play and maybe even invert into midfield. Play passes into the CMs pushing up and the attacking players in dangerous positions. 

 

 

 

My view on Dan Burn hasn't really changed. I've always thought he's a limited player. It's just being exposed now more than ever. I still like his profile - he's just not good at it. I don't like him as a CB either. I'd happily see him replaced by a good Botman level LCB who can play Fullback. Can spend £30-40m on him and shift 2 couple defenders for whatever we can get.

[Guest]

I don't think he was that bad on Saturday tbf. Ironic that their first goal came from him doing the first part right (getting a running start so he had a chance to match Elanga) but just ballsed up his positioning from it. 

[The College Dropout]

Just now, Optimistic Nut said:

I don't think he was that bad on Saturday tbf. Ironic that their first goal came from him doing the first part right (getting a running start so he had a chance to match Elanga) but just ballsed up his positioning from it. 

I think his positioning was fine (and it's more Dubs fault than his), he's just turbo-slow and Elanga is rapid.

 

Forest kept targeting him. It didn't always come off because he's not a terrible player but they got a fair amount of joy against him.

 

The midfield is terribly one-paced and exposes him.

 

The key thing is opps have targeted him. Trips can be got at the same way (as Son showed) but you need a little more guile to make it work and teams don't pinpoint him.

[Miggys First Goal]

Not even annoyed with the bloke at this point. The fans can see he’s not a LB. He himself probably knows he’s not a LB. The only person who can’t see it for some reason is the man picking the team. 

[The Prophet]

He's in poor form, but it's far too easy to expose him.

[alexf]

How many more games? What's that 4 in a row now he's been done for goals?

[Newcastle Fan]

Every game the right winger gets something, i can't even be too angry with him because he is not picking himself.

[Aiston]

He'll start vs Arsenal, you just fucking know it.

[Decky]

Next week is gonna be interesting.  

[NSG]

If we stick him against Saka next week then it’s basically hanging him out to dry.

[mofo]

To be fair it was a quality finish and Burn done what you would expect your LB to do as in show him out wide.. 

 

I'd much prefer Tino to start though.

[Nepharite]

Saka is going to have a field day

[Lotus]

Just now, mofo said:

To be fair it was a quality finish and Burn done what you would expect your LB to do as in show him out wide.. 

 

I'd much prefer Tino to start though.

Tbf to Burn, given how slow he is I thought he positioned himself the best he could under the circumstances. Just that a player with more pace will get a little tighter and give the forward less of the goal to aim at. 

[andycap]

Surely howe benches him until we do have the cover if wants to use him there. 

[Aiston]

Stopped more of our attacks today than he did Bournemouth's.

[dcmk]

I think it hard to criticise him really but one thing that's annoying me recently is because he doesn't want to commit himself to a tackle he just literally runs alongside the attacker until they cross into the box or they cut inside.

[Sufi]

On 10/02/2024 at 15:43, Geordie Ahmed said:

He has made mistakes but I agree it's absurd to then ignore the good that he does or when he plays well

 

Some would have you think he's a liability from minute one to minute 90

 

thats true but..

 

just purely based on his lack of pace, lack of agility, overlapping runs every 10 minutes, offering fuck all going forward, forcing the winger ahead of him to babysit him, etc etc

 

he could have an 8/10 match and still be a 1 on 1 sprint away from losing it for us at any given moment. 
 

if every manager we come up against is instructing his team to attack Dan burn…and having success…we probably should think about using him purely as CB depth.

 

I’ve literally never in my entire 30 years on this planet heard of a 6’7 playing left back in the most competitive football league in the world where every week you come up against elite to world class RWs with pace. 

It’s not fucking rocket science here. Sure he has had some decent performances, nobody is denying that. He’s holding this team back massively tho 

 

[alexf]

8 minutes ago, mofo said:

To be fair it was a quality finish and Burn done what you would expect your LB to do as in show him out wide.. 

 

I'd much prefer Tino to start though.

He did nothing. He neither closed him down or blocked the angle. Couldn't have asked for an easier opportunity as a winger. Burn might aswell have not been there. 

 

I'm not blaming him personally, I just can't get my head around Howe not changing it especially as Tino has proven himself at left back plenty.

 

Every time Tino has come on recently we haven't conceded and have also scored goals and looked more dangerous going forward. 

[RS]

Being used as an excuse for everything including erectile dysfunction. We know his limitations ffs

[NE27]

Needs pulled out of the firing line mind, come on Eddie show some mercy