The College Dropout Posted October 11, 2022 Share Posted October 11, 2022 1 hour ago, The Bonk said: Defensively, Lampard has Everton in good standing (although they didn't look good against ManU). It's the other end of the pitch that they struggle. Granted, this could also be read as they're under constant pressure defensively and that their midfield sucks. Aye, Lampard wants to be a manager and a successful one, whereas Gerrard doesn't strike me as really wanting to work at it. These aren't stats that suggest there's great coaching going on. Their GK is busy as are their defenders. Get good characters like Tarkowski & Coady (and players) in the dressing room, Pickford in good form and the fans behind you - yeh they'll make big saves, make the clearances and get the blocks in. Which is good management in the sense he's getting good players and characters in and they are all fully committed but that's not coaching. That's the Pardew skillset. And after all that, they are 3rd worst for expected goals against https://fbref.com/en/comps/9/Premier-League-Stats although from what i can tell they are mid-table for "big chances conceded" which are Xg shots conceded over 0.3 I think. Also being good defensively but not being able to score - isn't a good thing. He's yet to show he's able to find a balance. But as has been pointed out. He seems to understand management involves getting people (players, fans) to follow your plan with commitment. If he can do that, he will be ok in the short to medium term. Gerrard hasn't seemed to grasp that. The Mings thing was such a terrible move. Eddie has kept wor Jamaal as Captain and speaks highly of him... he probably gives him too many PL minutes.. but the respect is there and Lascelles has responded well. Keeping a key figure in the dressing room onside. From what i've read - Tuchel lost the dressing room by being extremely distant. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted October 11, 2022 Share Posted October 11, 2022 45 minutes ago, Jaqen said: Lampard has made Everton difficult to beat. They look quite solid defensively and the midfield three looks well balanced and athletic. Converting Iwobi and getting those performances out of him has been quite impressive I think. Front 3 is quite weak but it's a solid foundation to build on. They aren't a hoofball team like Dyche I don't think. Both the goals the conceded against Man U was them trying to play through them and getting caught in possession. Gerrard always seemed like a player that didn't really like tactics, pretty sure he said Rafa made him a better all round player but he hated that side of the game under him. Having to work on systems, positioning and tactics. Because he could win a game from playing a 50 yard inch perfect pass into Torres or bang one in from 30 yards when they needed a winner it seems like he's expecting players he's managing to be able to do the same and then being frustrated they aren't. Seems to have a a lot of the same traits as Roy Keane does which doesn't usually translate into a good manager. I agree with most of this. He's not a hoofball manager true but I don't think he has much of a plan as to how to attack either. Agree with your assessment of Gerrard as a player tactically. Lampard played in better teams but also learnt how to play a team role. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
midds Posted October 11, 2022 Share Posted October 11, 2022 Klopp's an utter cunt like. His presser is on live and he's coming across about as obnoxious as it's possible to get Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
toon25 Posted October 11, 2022 Share Posted October 11, 2022 The absolute fuck is this story about one goal at Wigan being 2 inches higher than the other at the weekend? Fucking ridiculous. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wilson Posted October 11, 2022 Share Posted October 11, 2022 I wish Mcmanamanamanmanamnanan would fall on a spike. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
54 Posted October 11, 2022 Share Posted October 11, 2022 Had no idea that was a rule. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scotty66 Posted October 11, 2022 Share Posted October 11, 2022 Wtf? But you can still score if you get a rebound off the keeper? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted October 11, 2022 Share Posted October 11, 2022 If the ball touches any other player between the striker’s two touches, yes. Same thing happened in our away leg vs Bilbao in the UEFA Cup. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
midds Posted October 11, 2022 Share Posted October 11, 2022 11 minutes ago, 54 said: Had no idea that was a rule. Yeah, otherwise you could just run up, take a slight touch, wait for the keeper to move then slide it the other side. Needs to be touched by anyone else before you can touch it again. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joey Linton Posted October 11, 2022 Share Posted October 11, 2022 From the clip it also looks like someone has corrected the referee on the rules too. She initially gives the goal I think. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Bonk Posted October 11, 2022 Share Posted October 11, 2022 52 minutes ago, The College Dropout said: These aren't stats that suggest there's great coaching going on. Their GK is busy as are their defenders. Get good characters like Tarkowski & Coady (and players) in the dressing room, Pickford in good form and the fans behind you - yeh they'll make big saves, make the clearances and get the blocks in. Which is good management in the sense he's getting good players and characters in and they are all fully committed but that's not coaching. That's the Pardew skillset. And after all that, they are 3rd worst for expected goals against https://fbref.com/en/comps/9/Premier-League-Stats although from what i can tell they are mid-table for "big chances conceded" which are Xg shots conceded over 0.3 I think. Also being good defensively but not being able to score - isn't a good thing. He's yet to show he's able to find a balance. But as has been pointed out. He seems to understand management involves getting people (players, fans) to follow your plan with commitment. If he can do that, he will be ok in the short to medium term. Gerrard hasn't seemed to grasp that. The Mings thing was such a terrible move. Eddie has kept wor Jamaal as Captain and speaks highly of him... he probably gives him too many PL minutes.. but the respect is there and Lascelles has responded well. Keeping a key figure in the dressing room onside. From what i've read - Tuchel lost the dressing room by being extremely distant. Spot on, @The College Dropout. I'm curious to see if Lampard has the ability to overcome his current tactical limitations as a manager. He definitely has the want and is invested in Everton as a club. As an aside, were you aware of https://wyayescout.com/, Kev Lawson? It got him a gig at Statsbomb and was on the Pod on the Tyne this week. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mazzy Posted October 11, 2022 Share Posted October 11, 2022 Tomori doing everything he can to not go to the World Cup. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Geordie Posted October 11, 2022 Share Posted October 11, 2022 Pen to Chelsea and Tomori sent off. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unbelievable Posted October 11, 2022 Share Posted October 11, 2022 (edited) Lucky bastards edit: PSG get offside given against them just as they concede a pen Edited October 11, 2022 by Unbelievable Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeordieDazzler Posted October 11, 2022 Share Posted October 11, 2022 Super soft red that Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaqen Posted October 11, 2022 Share Posted October 11, 2022 Tomori has been bobbins everytime I've seen them play this season. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Posted October 11, 2022 Share Posted October 11, 2022 Thick as fuck from Tomori Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mazzy Posted October 11, 2022 Share Posted October 11, 2022 Penalty is a bit harsh but Tomori has probably caused Mount to be off balance enough to stop him scoring an obvious goal. Harsh but maybe fair. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid Icarus Posted October 11, 2022 Share Posted October 11, 2022 (edited) Ref's been a joke like, was giving AC Milan everything and then does that. Ridiculous Edited October 11, 2022 by Kid Icarus Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Geordie Posted October 11, 2022 Share Posted October 11, 2022 Milan 0 Chelsea 1 Jorginiho (pen) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid Icarus Posted October 11, 2022 Share Posted October 11, 2022 It's a pen but never a red in a million years, even by the letter of the law. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Geordie Posted October 11, 2022 Share Posted October 11, 2022 Locals are gonna go crackers - no doubt. Laser pens were being pointed in the pen taker's face. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mazzy Posted October 11, 2022 Share Posted October 11, 2022 Loads of laser pointers in Jorghino face. The kind of people that take those to games are absolute knobs. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Posted October 11, 2022 Share Posted October 11, 2022 2 minutes ago, Kid Icarus said: Ref's been a joke like, was giving Chelsea everything and then does that. Ridiculous Didn’t make an effort to play the ball and he’s last man; them’s the laws even if it was soft on that scale. Saying that it must be hard as a defender to not to try to get back in with a bit of pulling in the hope you can scoop a leg round or something. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ponsaelius Posted October 11, 2022 Share Posted October 11, 2022 2 minutes ago, Kid Icarus said: It's a pen but never a red in a million years, even by the letter of the law. Ridiculously soft pen IMO but by the letter once it's a pen it also has to be a red. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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