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[madras]

7 minutes ago, Toon1984 said:

I think the players need to leave their clubs at least 2 weeks before the AFCON starts. That being the case, the mackem ones would miss the derby? 

I think Nations can make players leave that early but have let them play there league games later. Im guessing most will leave after tge Derby weekends games.

[Toon1984]

6 minutes ago, madras said:

I think Nations can make players leave that early but have let them play there league games later. Im guessing most will leave after tge Derby weekends games.

I just googled - AFCON starts 21/12 and the derby is 7 days before. It seems likely they’ll be away by then.

[madras]

5 minutes ago, Toon1984 said:

I just googled - AFCON starts 21/12 and the derby is 7 days before. It seems likely they’ll be away by then.

Im sure the past couple of AFCON's players could have been pulled out earlier but nations allowed them to play last round of games.

 

 

Edited October 26, 2025 by madras

[Toon1984]

2 minutes ago, madras said:

Im sure the past couple of AFCON's players could have been pulled out earlier but nations allowed them to play last round of games.

 

 

 

Oh right. Let’s see.

[BonesJones]

Havent watched them at all myself. Obviously the results have been good, but what about the performances?

[et tu brute]

2 hours ago, BonesJones said:

Havent watched them at all myself. Obviously the results have been good, but what about the performances?

Didn't see the Chelsea game (great result as I said yesterday, looking at the player ratings their goal keeper was man of the match) or highlights yet, but everytime I have seen them they have looked bang average.
 

Man U and Burnley comfortably beat them, and nearly half of their goals have came through howlers from opposition goalkeepers and a calamity of an own goal. Add to that two absolute sitters missed by Woods and Watkins which give them 4 points. That's not being biased that is factual happenings. 

[Jewel]

17 hours ago, HayDen Traces said:

Whilst them doing well is a stain on the pants of life, I do think having both clubs battling it out in the Prem is good for the region.

It might bruise ego's on either side of the fence, but it helps to rebuild the perception of how passionate the North East is about the game and might turn heads of prospective players and sponsors in the future.

 

 

 

 

We can do all of that ourselves. Don't need the mackems for any of that. When outsiders think about football in the North East they only think about us anyway.

 

If anything, Sunderland have done more harm to the perception of football in the North East, and will probably continue to do so, despite this purple patch they are having. It's best if they just disappeared back into the lower leagues, never to be heard from again.

[The Fountain]

5 hours ago, BonesJones said:

Havent watched them at all myself. Obviously the results have been good, but what about the performances?

On the highlights Wolves gifted them goals as did Brentford 

[Nucasol]

 

Well on their way to finishing above us apparently.

[Kilcline]

15 minutes ago, Nucasol said:

 

Well on their way to finishing above us apparently.

The funniest bit is that it actually is "most importantly of all" to a lot of them.

[Nucasol]

It’s the mackem “boom-bust” cycle on steroids.

[Coffee_Johnny]

41 minutes ago, Kilcline said:

The funniest bit is that it actually is "most importantly of all" to a lot of them.

The whole last time they finished above us crack hit me; 2015-16 when we were relegated and they finished in the glorious position of 17th. Not sure I would be celebrating that too much (beyond avoiding the drop, temporarily, I guess).

Their real focus should be on overtaking Middlesbrough whose average

 league finishing position, since 1992-93, is 22nd. Sunderland are breathing down their necks with an average of 25th best team in the English leagues (just slightly worse than West Brom).
We are at the mediocre, but relatively dizzying, heights of 11th since the Premier League era. Though that does include finishing no lower than 23rd and 14 top ten finishes.

Boro have only had two top ten finishes but Sunderland are at least in second place on that metric with 3. 

[Boo Boy]

They always shout too soon

[TeddySAFC]

Would still take 17th now if offered but what a start. 

[SAFC L]

5 hours ago, et tu brute said:

Didn't see the Chelsea game (great result as I said yesterday, looking at the player ratings their goal keeper was man of the match) or highlights yet, but everytime I have seen them they have looked bang average.
 

Man U and Burnley comfortably beat them, and nearly half of their goals have came through howlers from opposition goalkeepers and a calamity of an own goal. Add to that two absolute sitters missed by Woods and Watkins which give them 4 points. That's not being biased that is factual happenings. 

We’ve also missed our fair share of sitters too mind, and had a keeper howler that gave Villa their goal v us.

 

The luck in the games hasn’t just been one way.

[et tu brute]

12 minutes ago, SAFC L said:

We’ve also missed our fair share of sitters too mind, and had a keeper howler that gave Villa their goal v us.

 

The luck in the games hasn’t just been one way.

It has certainly been mostly one way. I can't remember sitters being missed (Chelsea aside as not seen any of the game) from a couple of yards out like the Woods or Watkins chances. Nearly half of your goals have come from goalkeeper errors and a calamity own goal. That's just factual. 

 

 

Edited October 27, 2025 by et tu brute

[Tiresias]

They're good, the form will drop but they're well on their way to an outstanding season. Good for them. We'll likely find form and go on an impressive run as we tend to and climb the table but it is shocking where we are at. They probably have had some luck but it's not like they've been garbage. Meh, honestly I pretty much devote all my football hate energy at Liverpool these days 

[Decky]

Well on their way. Five points clear of us... in October

 

[Mattoon]

15 minutes ago, Tiresias said:

They're good, the form will drop but they're well on their way to an outstanding season. Good for them. We'll likely find form and go on an impressive run as we tend to and climb the table but it is shocking where we are at. They probably have had some luck but it's not like they've been garbage. Meh, honestly I pretty much devote all my football hate energy at Liverpool these days 

There's 6 points between 3rd and 15th, it's been a mad start to the season with some eyebrow raising results, we're hardly off the pace we just had a slow start due to he who shall not be named. I don't think its shocking that we're just 5 points off champions league places in October given the circumstances, we'll be fine and it won't be long until the league starts to take shape with us where we should be.

[ramirez]

2 hours ago, Nucasol said:

 

Well on their way to finishing above us apparently.

also saw that, made sure i blocked all of their future clickbait content.  Had a chuckle at people my age (43) on social media claiming they are back where they belong, a quick google shows they've had 17 top flight seasons in those years, 6 of which resulting in relegation.  

[Abacus]

Sunderland have had a much better start than we or probably they expected. You'd expect them to have much rougher patches this season but they already have maybe half of the points needed to stay up, so fair enough, you can only do what you can with the fixtures you have. 

 

It would take an epic collapse from here, also helped by how terrible both Wolves and West Ham have been. It's going to take a lot for those two to recover.

[Optimistic Nut]

Only thing they need to look at is it's only 6 points still between top 4 and bottom 6. Nuno could easily turn West Ham around given a transfer window and Forest are better than they're showing. If they keep nicking wins here and there they'll be fine. One run of 5-6 losses and they're back in it. 

[KennyUtd]

They've had an incredible start like. All mackems I know were convinced they'd go down and are over the moon. Rightly by the way. But they're Sunderland man. An almighty implosion is never far away. As soon as they lose a few, and they  will, we'll see the true Sunderland. Looking forward to it. 

[Moose]

2 hours ago, Nucasol said:

 

Well on their way to finishing above us apparently.

 

As they're both well on their way to their respective fates should we just give the title to Arsenal and relegate Wolves right now then? It would save us all a lot of bother.

 

 

Edited October 27, 2025 by Moose

[Groundhog63]

I know it's heresy but I'm cool with the inbreds' early success. It's actually good for football. 

 

Notwithstanding my, previously, stated opinion that the 3 promoted teams should stay up, for the good of the game etc etc them beating Chelsea is canny. Fuck the cartel.