Scoot Posted June 16, 2022 Share Posted June 16, 2022 45 minutes ago, Groundhog63 said: So I hear.... https://www.readytogo.net/smb/threads/statement-of-fact.1581879/ Really pushing this attendance thing aren't they? Don't they always say that all we talk about is attendances? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
relámpago blanco Posted June 16, 2022 Share Posted June 16, 2022 I don't even think they were the biggest club in league 1. I would argue Sheff Wed are a bigger club. It's not just about attendance. Spurs aren't a bigger club than Chelsea for example. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sima Posted June 16, 2022 Share Posted June 16, 2022 41 minutes ago, Scoot said: Really pushing this attendance thing aren't they? Don't they always say that all we talk about is attendances? One of them was lamenting "their (our) constant need to refer to themselves as classy" yesterday. Unreal Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scoot Posted June 16, 2022 Share Posted June 16, 2022 9 minutes ago, Sima said: One of them was lamenting "their (our) constant need to refer to themselves as classy" yesterday. Unreal Self-awareness severely lacking. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolfcastle Posted June 16, 2022 Share Posted June 16, 2022 (edited) 6 hours ago, Scoot said: Really pushing this attendance thing aren't they? Don't they always say that all we talk about is attendances? So they think they're the biggest club in the championship because they might get the biggest gates this time. But the last time they were as high as the 2nd tier they didn't get good gates, so they've become a bigger club after 4years in the 3rd division than they were then somehow!? and if they're going by attendances, wouldn't that mean were a far bigger club than them, given its not even a rivallry and something like 88 of the last 100 seasons we've had bigger gates including when a division below!? Edited June 16, 2022 by Wolfcastle Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
et tu brute Posted June 16, 2022 Share Posted June 16, 2022 10 minutes ago, Wolfcastle said: So they think they're the biggest club in the championship because they might get the biggest gates this time. But the last time they were as high as the 2nd tier they didn't get good gates, so they've become a bigger club after 4years in the 3rd division than they were then somehow!? and if they're going by attendances, wouldn't that mean were a far bigger club than them, given its not even a rivallry and something like 88 of the last 100 seasons we've had bigger gates including when a division below!? It's like when they say we wouldn't get the gates they had in the third division. Obviously we have never been that shit to be down at that level, but if you look at the average gates from the second division up to when we were promoted under Keegan (I'm not even going to include the last two times we were down there), the two clubs have averaged the following: Second flight average Newcastle 28,252 mackems 23,701 So where the fuck do they get their stance that we wouldn't get the same crowds as they would, fuck knows. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DubblyDubblyDubbly Posted June 16, 2022 Share Posted June 16, 2022 5 minutes ago, et tu brute said: It's like when they say we wouldn't get the gates they had in the third division. Obviously we have never been that shit to be down at that level, but if you look at the average gates from the second division up to when we were promoted under Keegan (I'm not even going to include the last two times we were down there), the two clubs have averaged the following: Second flight average Newcastle 28,252 mackems 23,701 So where the fuck do they get their stance that we wouldn't get the same crowds as they would, fuck knows. Mackematics! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wallsendmag Posted June 16, 2022 Share Posted June 16, 2022 53 minutes ago, Wolfcastle said: So they think they're the biggest club in the championship because they might get the biggest gates this time. But the last time they were as high as the 2nd tier they didn't get good gates, so they've become a bigger club after 4years in the 3rd division than they were then somehow!? and if they're going by attendances, wouldn't that mean were a far bigger club than them, given its not even a rivallry and something like 88 of the last 100 seasons we've had bigger gates including when a division below!? Was reading something the other day which stated they'd sold 9,000 U16s season tickets at £48 a pop and seemingly a lot of parents buy the extra ticket as it's so cheap even if it's only to take the bairn to 4 or 5 games over the season as it still works out cheaper. Would also explan why when they were quoting 30k+ crowds last season it was evident that the true figure was far lower. Either way I hope they remian the "biggest" team in the Championship for years to come, although I wouldn't be adverse to another stint in Division 3 for them so they could renew hostilities with all their old marras. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jackie Broon Posted June 16, 2022 Share Posted June 16, 2022 (edited) 36 minutes ago, et tu brute said: It's like when they say we wouldn't get the gates they had in the third division. Obviously we have never been that shit to be down at that level, but if you look at the average gates from the second division up to when we were promoted under Keegan (I'm not even going to include the last two times we were down there), the two clubs have averaged the following: Second flight average Newcastle 28,252 mackems 23,701 So where the fuck do they get their stance that we wouldn't get the same crowds as they would, fuck knows. Particularly as we hold the British (and I think world) record average attendance for a season outside of a top flight league, and three of the top 5 highest average attendances outside of a top flight league: 1947/48 - NUFC - 56,283 1949/50 - Spurs - 54,111 2016/17 - NUFC - 51,106 1946/47 - NUFC - 49,397 1974/75 - Man U - 48,389 Edited June 16, 2022 by Jackie Broon Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scoot Posted June 16, 2022 Share Posted June 16, 2022 9 minutes ago, Jackie Broon said: Particularly as we hold the British (and I think world) record average attendance for a season outside of a top flight league, and three of the top 5 highest average attendances outside of a top flight league: 1947/48 - NUFC - 56,283 1949/50 - Spurs - 54,111 2016/17 - NUFC - 51,106 1946/47 - NUFC - 49,397 1974/75 - Man U - 48,389 Hey, don't let facts get in the way of a good old made up mackem/mag bashing story though eh? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PauloGeordio Posted June 16, 2022 Share Posted June 16, 2022 22 hours ago, Jackie Broon said: In a waffle house on wearside... RIP Bill Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dancing Brave Posted June 16, 2022 Share Posted June 16, 2022 5 hours ago, Scoot said: Hey, don't let facts get in the way of a good old made up mackem/mag bashing story though eh? https://www.readytogo.net/smb/threads/nufc-and-other-sportswashing-spring-2022.1574237/page-595#post-36285581 "The mags will finish 12th at best and will be knocked out of all the cups in the early rounds. Last season proved whenever they played any half decent opposition they got turned over." Arsenal fans not happy with that post. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RodneyCisse Posted June 16, 2022 Share Posted June 16, 2022 12 hours ago, Scoot said: Really pushing this attendance thing aren't they? Don't they always say that all we talk about is attendances? They’re about to be the EFL (they seem to ignore there’s another league above) attendance champions. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
et tu brute Posted June 16, 2022 Share Posted June 16, 2022 (edited) 5 hours ago, Wallsendmag said: Was reading something the other day which stated they'd sold 9,000 U16s season tickets at £48 a pop and seemingly a lot of parents buy the extra ticket as it's so cheap even if it's only to take the bairn to 4 or 5 games over the season as it still works out cheaper. Would also explan why when they were quoting 30k+ crowds last season it was evident that the true figure was far lower. Either way I hope they remian the "biggest" team in the Championship for years to come, although I wouldn't be adverse to another stint in Division 3 for them so they could renew hostilities with all their old marras. Last season their attendances were a good 5,000 (often more) below what was actually reported. All you had to do was look at their highlights to see the massive seat gaps around the ground. Edited June 16, 2022 by et tu brute Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest HTT II Posted June 16, 2022 Share Posted June 16, 2022 4 minutes ago, et tu brute said: Last season their attendances were a good 5,000 (iften more) below what was actually reported. All you had to do was look at their highlights to see the massive seat gaps around the ground. My mate is a season card holder there, he is a massive lads fan, but says most of their ‘top’ attendances was well under 30k and not to take any published attendance figures as fact because they are bullshit basically! Also my own company accountant of 50 years, a proper SAFC fan, says they are fucked financially unless their boy owner pumps tens of millions in and gets them back into the PL and even then their income alone won’t sustain things without him having to keep doing so. He said Short at least put his own money in, but just trusted it to the wrong people because he didn’t have a clue about football. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paully Posted June 17, 2022 Share Posted June 17, 2022 https://theathletic.com/3369115/2022/06/17/newcastle-sunderland-tyne-wear-derby/ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Abacus Posted June 17, 2022 Share Posted June 17, 2022 It's a good article about the derbies, and I can see in the comments that the Mackem self defence instinct has kicked in. I was wondering how they would square how, if they ever played us again, they would undoubtedly get spanked. Apparently, the results would be void altogether due to the huge wealth of our owners, and they wouldn't really be playing Newcastle but Saudi Arabia. Well done to them for getting their excuses in early and even having the mental capacity to think ahead. You could of course point out that their run of recent victories was bankrolled by a billionaire who wasted hundreds of millions on them, whilst our wallpaper billionaire was extracting value from our club. But if so, then we'd have to write those results off as well and they wouldn't agree with that for .... reasons. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dokko Posted June 17, 2022 Share Posted June 17, 2022 (edited) They signed anyone yet? Be interesting to see what ambitions they have this season. May have even heard of 1 or 2 of them this time. Edited June 17, 2022 by Dokko Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nun tumblers Posted June 17, 2022 Share Posted June 17, 2022 (edited) 2 simple facts. 1. would sunderland fans get behind a massive saudi investment..YES 2. Are Sunderland a bigger club than the toon ....NO. Edited June 17, 2022 by Nun tumblers Spellings Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dancing Brave Posted June 17, 2022 Share Posted June 17, 2022 1. Would ANY clubs fans get behind a massive Saudi investment...YES Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolfcastle Posted June 17, 2022 Share Posted June 17, 2022 (edited) 'When Henderson makes reference to Newcastle fans and an “inflated sense of self-entitlement,” as he puts it, “The way in which the Saudi regime have been welcomed into the club with open arms has only exposed this to the wider footballing world,” he says.' Being that were the pinnacle of any ambition I've ever known mackems have (finishing above us, beating us, north east top dogs) maybe having goals beyond that comes off as self-entitlement when its just not being sad. Didn't realise welcoming people was a sign of self-entitlement, I thought the opposite, if anything, was true. But then these are just parroted words aren't they. 6 hours ago, Dancing Brave said: 1. Would ANY clubs fans get behind a massive Saudi investment...YES Will any of them go as far as to not watch the world cup on TV? No. But they'd raze their clubs to the ground, unlike us, on principle of course. Edited June 17, 2022 by Wolfcastle Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coffee_Johnny Posted June 17, 2022 Share Posted June 17, 2022 Can’t read the article, which Henderson? Anyhoo, if somebody did say that in such a blatantly baity way, then they’re a cheeky little rascal and I hope they live to regret it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Abacus Posted June 17, 2022 Share Posted June 17, 2022 I thought it was a proper Henderson too! In fact it's some Gavin Henderson, no less, who writes for something called Roker Report. I say writes, probably just taps a keyboard with his nose like Homer's typing bird. And good luck to the little feller, I say. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dancing Brave Posted June 17, 2022 Share Posted June 17, 2022 Imagine having street signs asking you not to shit or piss in the streets. Welcome to Sunderland https://www.chroniclelive.co.uk/news/north-east-news/people-sunderland-warned-stop-defacating-16765897 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stifler Posted June 17, 2022 Share Posted June 17, 2022 14 minutes ago, Dancing Brave said: Imagine having street signs asking you not to shit or piss in the streets. Welcome to Sunderland https://www.chroniclelive.co.uk/news/north-east-news/people-sunderland-warned-stop-defacating-16765897 ‘It’s all them Magamarras coming over here and shitting in our streets to give us a bad name.’ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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