General NUFC stuff

[Darth Crooks]

Alan smith at some point

[Guest]

People always bring up Cacapa, but I still think it's unfair tbh. We played an aging, slow defender in a high line defence against strong, pacey players, and it's his fault that he was out-paced and out-muscled?

 

I know it all plays into it, but I don't really consider that an individual bad performance really, mainly because that Allardyce set up was suicidal. You have to be up to it in the first place, be able to take shit tactics out of the equation and then play badly for it to really count imo. Cacapa was just a previously good player that was past it and had his lack of pace badly exposed. A player has to make stupid decisions, not complete passes, miss sitters etc for it to be truly apocalyptic. For me no one comes close to Kenedy away to Cardiff. He could have only been worse if lack of effort factored into it too. Ironically, if it had have, we'd have probably won too. Didn't complete a pass IIRC, lost the ball constantly and in really stupid areas, then went on to miss a penalty. It was like he had a bet on.

 

He was actually pretty good up to that point. I remember him at home to Spurs where he was class.

[Bimpy474]

Hayden's mental 20 minuter performance against Cardiff must be a contender.

[Raconteur]

Hayden's mental 20 minuter performance against Cardiff must be a contender.

 

The absolute worst this year - Kenedy's shiteness gets a boost because of the pen, but Hayden on that day was irredeemably bad. In fact, I reckon I wasn't alone in thinking that would be the last time he ever wore our shirt.

[Conjo]

People always bring up Cacapa, but I still think it's unfair tbh. We played an aging, slow defender in a high line defence against strong, pacey players, and it's his fault that he was out-paced and out-muscled?

 

I know it all plays into it, but I don't really consider that an individual bad performance really, mainly because that Allardyce set up was suicidal. You have to be up to it in the first place, be able to take shit tactics out of the equation and then play badly for it to really count imo. Cacapa was just a previously good player that was past it and had his lack of pace badly exposed. A player has to make stupid decisions, not complete passes, miss sitters etc for it to be truly apocalyptic. For me no one comes close to Kenedy away to Cardiff. He could have only been worse if lack of effort factored into it too. Ironically, if it had have, we'd have probably won too. Didn't complete a pass IIRC, lost the ball constantly and in really stupid areas, then went on to miss a penalty. It was like he had a bet on.

 

He was actually pretty good up to that point. I remember him at home to Spurs where he was class.

 

Had to read up on this one a bit He was 31 years old, so not sure age can be used as an excuse but apparently he was struggling with an strain injury. His next match against Fulham he got MOTM.

 

Portsmouth lined up in a 4-5-1 with Benjani as a lone striker. Only speed merchant in their team was John Utaka on the wing.

[gdm]

Mitrovic v Blackburn at home in the championship. All he did was foul the defenders

[ToonArmy1892]

Lascelles had a game this season or last where it literally looked like he had put his boots on the wrong way round.

[Guest firetotheworks]

People always bring up Cacapa, but I still think it's unfair tbh. We played an aging, slow defender in a high line defence against strong, pacey players, and it's his fault that he was out-paced and out-muscled?

 

I know it all plays into it, but I don't really consider that an individual bad performance really, mainly because that Allardyce set up was suicidal. You have to be up to it in the first place, be able to take shit tactics out of the equation and then play badly for it to really count imo. Cacapa was just a previously good player that was past it and had his lack of pace badly exposed. A player has to make stupid decisions, not complete passes, miss sitters etc for it to be truly apocalyptic. For me no one comes close to Kenedy away to Cardiff. He could have only been worse if lack of effort factored into it too. Ironically, if it had have, we'd have probably won too. Didn't complete a pass IIRC, lost the ball constantly and in really stupid areas, then went on to miss a penalty. It was like he had a bet on.

 

He was actually pretty good up to that point. I remember him at home to Spurs where he was class.

 

Had to read up on this one a bit He was 31 years old, so not sure age can be used as an excuse but apparently he was struggling with an strain injury. His next match against Fulham he got MOTM.

 

Portsmouth lined up in a 4-5-1 with Benjani as a lone striker. Only speed merchant in their team was John Utaka on the wing.

 

Benjani was rapid at Portsmouth (85 acceleration and pace on Fifa iirc ) and we still played a stupidly high line with a slow defender over 30, like. I'd say it's fair to say the set up was suicidal.

[Disco]

Fumaca, whoever he came on against.

[Sima]

Fumaca, whoever he came on against.

 

Aye, this.  It was at home, possibly Arsenal?

[Conjo]

People always bring up Cacapa, but I still think it's unfair tbh. We played an aging, slow defender in a high line defence against strong, pacey players, and it's his fault that he was out-paced and out-muscled?

 

I know it all plays into it, but I don't really consider that an individual bad performance really, mainly because that Allardyce set up was suicidal. You have to be up to it in the first place, be able to take shit tactics out of the equation and then play badly for it to really count imo. Cacapa was just a previously good player that was past it and had his lack of pace badly exposed. A player has to make stupid decisions, not complete passes, miss sitters etc for it to be truly apocalyptic. For me no one comes close to Kenedy away to Cardiff. He could have only been worse if lack of effort factored into it too. Ironically, if it had have, we'd have probably won too. Didn't complete a pass IIRC, lost the ball constantly and in really stupid areas, then went on to miss a penalty. It was like he had a bet on.

 

He was actually pretty good up to that point. I remember him at home to Spurs where he was class.

 

Had to read up on this one a bit He was 31 years old, so not sure age can be used as an excuse but apparently he was struggling with an strain injury. His next match against Fulham he got MOTM.

 

Portsmouth lined up in a 4-5-1 with Benjani as a lone striker. Only speed merchant in their team was John Utaka on the wing.

 

Benjani was rapid at Portsmouth (85 acceleration and pace on Fifa iirc ) and we still played a stupidly high line with a slow defender over 30, like. I'd say it's fair to say the set up was suicidal.

 

Cacapa had 78 accelleration and 80 pace on Fifa, wtf is your point? No matter how poor or good, old or young, slow or fast he was, in that particular game he played awful and shipped 3 goals in the space of 11 minutes and got rightly subbed.

 

Match report:

Newcastle can have no complaints after some diabolical defending particularly from Brazilian centre-back Capaca, who was hauled off after only 18 minutes to be replaced by David Rozehnal.

 

...But after the sublime came the ridiculous when, a minute later, Cacapa hesitated and was easily shoulder-barged out of the way by Benjani, who then curled in a sweet left-foot volley.

 

And two minutes later, Utaka repeated the trick, muscling past the shell-shocked Cacapa before rounding keeper Steve Harper and slotting into an empty net.

 

First goal came due to a poor Butt clearance from a corner, so none of the goals had anything directly to do with a high line necessarily.

 

[Dinho lad]

People always bring up Cacapa, but I still think it's unfair tbh. We played an aging, slow defender in a high line defence against strong, pacey players, and it's his fault that he was out-paced and out-muscled?

 

I know it all plays into it, but I don't really consider that an individual bad performance really, mainly because that Allardyce set up was suicidal. You have to be up to it in the first place, be able to take shit tactics out of the equation and then play badly for it to really count imo. Cacapa was just a previously good player that was past it and had his lack of pace badly exposed. A player has to make stupid decisions, not complete passes, miss sitters etc for it to be truly apocalyptic. For me no one comes close to Kenedy away to Cardiff. He could have only been worse if lack of effort factored into it too. Ironically, if it had have, we'd have probably won too. Didn't complete a pass IIRC, lost the ball constantly and in really stupid areas, then went on to miss a penalty. It was like he had a bet on.

 

He was actually pretty good up to that point. I remember him at home to Spurs where he was class.

 

Had to read up on this one a bit He was 31 years old, so not sure age can be used as an excuse but apparently he was struggling with an strain injury. His next match against Fulham he got MOTM.

 

Portsmouth lined up in a 4-5-1 with Benjani as a lone striker. Only speed merchant in their team was John Utaka on the wing.

 

Benjani was rapid at Portsmouth (85 acceleration and pace on Fifa iirc ) and we still played a stupidly high line with a slow defender over 30, like. I'd say it's fair to say the set up was suicidal.

 

You blatantly googled something about Benjani's pace and the best that you could find, to complement your confirmation bias, was his Fifa stats.

 

 

[Tribesman]

 

Thought?

 

Every player in that 0-6 home defeat against Liverpool was terrible. It was probably the worst I have ever seen us play.

 

[AyeDubbleYoo]

Saw Mitro miss 3 sitters and a penalty against Oxford, that was a tough watch.

[joeyt]

Jak Alnwick had some bad ones I'm sure

[Paully]

[AyeDubbleYoo]

Never heard of that, I’ve been in that end about 6 times. Can’t remember which postcode’s on my account mind.

[SteV]

I did wonder about that, because I read about them doing it to Everton fans a couple of weeks ago, and apparently the same is happening to Cardiff. The neutral end thing is a shambles. Police advise to stop NE postcodes buying in the neutral end, but if you do get one there's nothing to stop you attending wearing a black and white top...

[AyeDubbleYoo]

I mean, they should advise Fulham to stop having the fucking thing if nobody is allowed to sit there. They're hardly going to get 5000 tourists every game.

 

Every time I've been it's been 50% NUFC fans, can't imagine they all used London postcodes.

[Paully]

[joeyt]

 

Dreamboat

[AyeDubbleYoo]

Fulham is £58 in the Putney End anyway, absolutely mental.

 

Still almost tempted to go mind

[Guest firetotheworks]

People always bring up Cacapa, but I still think it's unfair tbh. We played an aging, slow defender in a high line defence against strong, pacey players, and it's his fault that he was out-paced and out-muscled?

 

I know it all plays into it, but I don't really consider that an individual bad performance really, mainly because that Allardyce set up was suicidal. You have to be up to it in the first place, be able to take shit tactics out of the equation and then play badly for it to really count imo. Cacapa was just a previously good player that was past it and had his lack of pace badly exposed. A player has to make stupid decisions, not complete passes, miss sitters etc for it to be truly apocalyptic. For me no one comes close to Kenedy away to Cardiff. He could have only been worse if lack of effort factored into it too. Ironically, if it had have, we'd have probably won too. Didn't complete a pass IIRC, lost the ball constantly and in really stupid areas, then went on to miss a penalty. It was like he had a bet on.

 

He was actually pretty good up to that point. I remember him at home to Spurs where he was class.

 

Had to read up on this one a bit He was 31 years old, so not sure age can be used as an excuse but apparently he was struggling with an strain injury. His next match against Fulham he got MOTM.

 

Portsmouth lined up in a 4-5-1 with Benjani as a lone striker. Only speed merchant in their team was John Utaka on the wing.

 

Benjani was rapid at Portsmouth (85 acceleration and pace on Fifa iirc ) and we still played a stupidly high line with a slow defender over 30, like. I'd say it's fair to say the set up was suicidal.

 

Cacapa had 78 accelleration and 80 pace on Fifa, wtf is your point? No matter how poor or good, old or young, slow or fast he was, in that particular game he played awful and shipped 3 goals in the space of 11 minutes and got rightly subbed.

 

Match report:

Newcastle can have no complaints after some diabolical defending particularly from Brazilian centre-back Capaca, who was hauled off after only 18 minutes to be replaced by David Rozehnal.

 

...But after the sublime came the ridiculous when, a minute later, Cacapa hesitated and was easily shoulder-barged out of the way by Benjani, who then curled in a sweet left-foot volley.

 

And two minutes later, Utaka repeated the trick, muscling past the shell-shocked Cacapa before rounding keeper Steve Harper and slotting into an empty net.

 

First goal came due to a poor Butt clearance from a corner, so none of the goals had anything directly to do with a high line necessarily.

 

 

If the '' didn't give it away, I wasn't being entirely serious, but Benjani was still fast - certainly faster than Cacapa - and we still played a suicidal high line, so I'm not sure why you have such a bee in your bonnet about the suggestion that Sam Allardyce's shit tactics might have been to blame, when Cacapa was old, slow, new to the league, and had other performances where he wasn't badly exposed and played well. It's hardly outlandish. Your last sentence is just wrong, you've picked one goal in a 4-1 loss and then claimed that none of the goals had anything to do with a high line? The other two goals when Cacapa was on the field were due to a high line, because they were nigh on identical goals.

[Stifler]

Fulham is £58 in the Putney End anyway, absolutely mental.

 

Still almost tempted to go mind

£60 isn’t it?

[Disco]

Fulham is £58 in the Putney End anyway, absolutely mental.

 

Still almost tempted to go mind

£60 isn’t it?

 

£2 trolley tax