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I'm not one to slate players and I still think Pope is a good keeper. They can always have a howler, it's the nature of it.

 

However, I don't think he's been quite right since that shoulder injury and either way he's a weak link right now in a few ways. It can't give the rest of the team, or him, much confidence and his must be through the floor tonight.

 

Give Ramsdale a run for a bit now.

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Cost us the game. Fed up of him now. 
 

He gets relentlessly praised (by fans in the stands and a couple of old nutters on here) for making the most basic saves going while giving us nothing that the top keepers do, namely confidence, calmness and reliability. Enough’s enough now.

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1 minute ago, TK-421 said:

So thats basically a goal in each of our last 3 away games he's cost us, now.

Worrying.

 

Thought he could have stood up better for the second as well.

 

Yes he has to guess a bit at that distance but you stand up not drop down. 

 

May well have gone in regardless but still the wrong move.

 

Writing was on the wall in the Liverpool game, the pre shoulder injury Pope saves 2 of those goals, yes they would have been incredible stops but that was his strong point

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This bloke can not give the defenders in front of him any confidence in their keeper.

 

Cost us that game tonight with that horrific error. 

 

Add to that, its heart in mouth every time he has the ball at his feet and it doesn't breed confidence in the slightest.

 

Cant get over that error tonight. Its proper school boy stuff that. What on earth was he thinking there?

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13 minutes ago, Doops said:

He always a gormless face after he makes a mistake too. Clown 

 

To be honest this vexes me more than the conceded goals. I can take watching another costly mistake and might even find the humour in it, but what I can't abide is another closeup of his face.

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5 minutes ago, huss9 said:

More than 3


Aye, sorry forgot he kinda ballsed up for West hams 3rd as well as their equaliser.

But prior to then, he hadn't done too much wrong this season, and it seemed having another 'England keeper' on the bench might be making him up his game. But his recent decision making is costing us goals, games and points.

Ramsdale has done little wrong in the matches he's played. Albeit against weaker opposition, but still, deserves a chance now, and must start to question why he's here if he doesn't get one soon, given Pope's errors.

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He's been great for us in the main, love him for his part in winning the cup, but I don't want to see him in a starting line up any time soon. Give Ramsdale a long run in the side.

 

Completely turned the game on it's head, total head-loss. So frustrating.

 

 

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Just now, Gottlob said:

 

To be honest this vexes me more than the conceded goals. I can take watching another costly mistake and might even find the humour in it, but what I can't abide is another closeup of his face.


:lol: 

 

Reminds me of Shola when he used to give away yet another braindead foul when pressing an opponent near their goal.

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Just now, TK-421 said:


Aye, sorry forgot he kinda ballsed up for West hams 3rd as well as their equaliser.

But prior to then, he hadn't done too much wrong this season, and it seemed having another 'England keeper' on the bench might be making him up his game. But his recent decision making is costing us goals, games and points.

Ramsdale has done little wrong in the matches he's played. Albeit against weaker opposition, but still, deserves a chance now, and must start to question why he's here if he doesn't get one soon, given Pope's errors.

It’s not just the errors though. He shouldn’t be starting for us based on his inability to kick the ball. Confidence starts from the back and he restricts us so much 

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Just now, TK-421 said:


Aye, sorry forgot he kinda ballsed up for West hams 3rd as well as their equaliser.

But prior to then, he hadn't done too much wrong this season, and it seemed having another 'England keeper' on the bench might be making him up his game. But his recent decision making is costing us goals, games and points.

Ramsdale has done little wrong in the matches he's played. Albeit against weaker opposition, but still, deserves a chance now, and must start to question why he's here if he doesn't get one soon, given Pope's errors.

 

Arsenal's second goal

Brighton's second goal

West Ham first goal

West Ham third goal

Brentford first goal

Marseille first goal

 

6 goals this season that have come from his mistakes. And that's not a "could he have saved it" type argument where you question the shot stopping, these are all positioning, rushing out, poor distribution or that fucking obsession with punching crosses.

 

Ramsdale must be absolutely chod if he can't force his way in now. He may as well be Ruddy or Gillespie just with better wages.

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8 minutes ago, Ronaldo said:

Cost us the game. Fed up of him now. 
 

He gets relentlessly praised (by fans in the stands and a couple of old nutters on here) for making the most basic saves going while giving us nothing that the top keepers do, namely confidence, calmness and reliability. Enough’s enough now.

 

I liked how Hoddle described a few saves from both keepers tonight as, "keeper did his job". No over-reaction, just nailed the description. 

 

The decision to keep him in is costing us a proper run at the top 6 and now a top 8 finish here. The change has to be made at Everton or I'll be looking at Howe thinking what the fuck are you playing at. 

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I don't usually like joining a pile on but if not on a night like tonight then when?

 

I'm absolutley done with this blockhead. Yes, he made some good saves tonight but so would any competent GK. These dumb mistakes are happening far too often and with complete impunity as he is inexplicably undroppable. 

 

Is Ramsdale better? Who knows? But ffs, let's at least give him a run of games and see what we've got in him! What the worst case scenario? He'll do well to drop a bigger clanger than the one tonight!

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8 minutes ago, LiquidAK said:

He's been great for us in the main, love him for his part in winning the cup, but I don't want to see him in a starting line up any time soon. Give Ramsdale a long run in the side.

 

Completely turned the game on it's head, total head-loss. So frustrating.

 

 


That’s where I am, I can accept losing but with this being the catalyst it’s just unforgivable.

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1 minute ago, Bizza said:

You'd think he would've learned to stop the sweeper keeper stuff after that red card in the LC Semi a couple of years ago, mind-boggling that he still hasn't. 


I have no issues with the sweeper keeper thing. It is a big part of how we play and it has worked more than it hasn’t. When it doesn’t. Well…… it’s spectacularly bad :lol: 

 

You could see 10-20 yards away he wasn’t getting there. I know it’s high risk/high reward. But that was painful. Like watching a car crash in slow motion. 
 

 

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3 minutes ago, Moose said:

I don't usually like joining a pile on but if not on a night like tonight then when?

 

I'm absolutley done with this blockhead. Yes, he made some good saves tonight but so would any competent GK. These dumb mistakes are happening far too often and with complete impunity as he is inexplicably undroppable. 

 

Is Ramsdale better? Who knows? But ffs, let's at least give him a run of games and see what we've got in him! What the worst case scenario? He'll do well to drop a bigger clanger than the one tonight!

What good saves did he make tonight?

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