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9 minutes ago, Slim said:

I was 300 odd and would bought 6 if my card didn't fail 3 times. I got two in the end. 


Even if the 300 odd people all bought 6 tickets each for linked accounts (unlikely if it was real people logging in not bots), that’s still only 1,800 tickets accounted for out of the 15,000 that should be available via ballot and resale. 
 

And it was sold out by position 475. 

 

 

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1 hour ago, Groundhog63 said:

Fuck off man you idiot 😂😂😂

 

Regardless of the club's willingness, or accidental, provision of tickets to....er...."tourists" it's season ticket holders that are to blame for any deficit in atmosphere.

 

 


Both things can be true at the same time.

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21 minutes ago, Whitley mag said:

The hospitality tickets available are in the Leazes level 4 block W. 
 

This has always been a general admission section, has any of the supporters organisations questioned the club on this? 
 

I’ve got no doubt bots will have took some tickets today but how many general admission tickets have been made corporate for this match?

 

Seems like a real money grab by the club in a big game at the expense of normal fans.
 

 

 

Aye blocks W and X in the Leazes were always GA areas, 2 of the less popular ones at that with a low % of ST holders so ripe for turning them into corporate area by chucking a meal in. Man Utd are doing exactly the same thing. Using normal areas as corporate hospitality by giving access to a bar/restaurant.

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1 hour ago, Wallsendmag said:

 

Aye blocks W and X in the Leazes were always GA areas, 2 of the less popular ones at that with a low % of ST holders so ripe for turning them into corporate area by chucking a meal in. Man Utd are doing exactly the same thing. Using normal areas as corporate hospitality by giving access to a bar/restaurant.

No wonder the place is a morgue. Massively short sighted by the club and coupled with £70 quid tickets in level 7 not selling out tomorrow, shows how out of touch those making these decisions are.

 

Also massively irresponsible in a game like this and could lead to major bother. Who the fuck puts corporate fans paying 700 quid next to general admission fans in a Derby match.

 

 

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27 minutes ago, Whitley mag said:

No wonder the place is a morgue. Massively short sighted by the club and coupled with £70 quid tickets in level 7 not selling out tomorrow, shows how out of touch those making these decisions are.

 

Also massively irresponsible in a game like this and could lead to major bother. Who the fuck puts corporate fans paying 700 quid next to general admission fans in a Derby match.

 

 

 

Nowt ever happens it nothing ever will.  

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8 hours ago, Whitley mag said:

No wonder the place is a morgue. Massively short sighted by the club and coupled with £70 quid tickets in level 7 not selling out tomorrow, shows how out of touch those making these decisions are.

 

Also massively irresponsible in a game like this and could lead to major bother. Who the fuck puts corporate fans paying 700 quid next to general admission fans in a Derby match.

 

 

 


If I’d paid £720 for a ticket I wouldn’t want to be sat directly under the away fans for a variety of reasons.

 

Also, I wonder how it feels to look around you and realise that your seat is exactly the same ones as the £55 seats in the blocks next door and you’ve effectively paid £665 for a plate of scran at a mid-tier chain restaurant. 
 

Your target customer for those tickets needs to be both wealthy and stupid. 

 

 

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10 minutes ago, bobbydazzla said:


If I’d paid £720 for a ticket I wouldn’t want to be sat directly under the away fans for a variety of reasons.

 

Also, I wonder how it feels to look around you and realise that your seat is exactly the same ones as the £55 seats in the blocks next door and you’ve effectively paid £665 for a plate of scran at a mid-tier chain restaurant. 
 

Your target customer for those tickets needs to be both wealthy and stupid. 

Screams the Tignes Porsche crew.

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So what's people's intentions? I take it, despite all the problems, we're all going to renew? 😂

 

All a tad catch 22, tbf. 2 ballot wins and 3 successful Members sale purchases has, probably, moved the dial enough for us. Having said that, is it still gonna be £47??

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1 minute ago, Nucasol said:

Screams the Tignes Porsche crew.


They were season ticketed up to the eyeballs.

 

We are the Geordies,

The Geordie knobheads,

Oh we love money and we talk loud,

We are the loyalist football supportaz the world has ever had.
 

 

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7 minutes ago, Groundhog63 said:

So what's people's intentions? I take it, despite all the problems, we're all going to renew? 😂

 

All a tad catch 22, tbf. 2 ballot wins and 3 successful Members sale purchases has, probably, moved the dial enough for us. Having said that, is it still gonna be £47??


There’s effectively no choice if you want to go to any Newcastle games at all under your own steam (not an ST transfer ticket) then you have to pay the ticket tax.

 

They’ve got us by the bollocks. They’ll be making so much money off bot accounts that a few hundred, maybe thousand, ordinary punters not renewing won’t make a difference. 
 

Are you willing to give up going to any games next season for the sake of £40-50 quid ? Most people’s answer is no.

 

We've shown time and time again that we’re a docile fan base who would never protest in numbers big enough to make a real difference.  

 

 

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Just now, bobbydazzla said:


There’s effectively no choice if you want to go to any Newcastle games at all under your own steam (not an ST transfer ticket) then you have to pay the ticket tax.

 

They’ve got us by the bollocks. They’ll be making so much money off bot accounts that a few hundred, maybe thousand, ordinary punters not renewing won’t make a difference. 

Agree.

 

Fait acompli

 

Put up or shut up

 

Gotta be in it to win it

 

 

Or winnit, more like 💩

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37 minutes ago, Groundhog63 said:

So what's people's intentions? I take it, despite all the problems, we're all going to renew? 😂

 

All a tad catch 22, tbf. 2 ballot wins and 3 successful Members sale purchases has, probably, moved the dial enough for us. Having said that, is it still gonna be £47??

I know that in the discussions the FAB has been having with the club around the introduction of a ST waiting list, one of the things that has been mooted is eligibility criteria around previous membership history. 
 

I’m absolutely not saying anything has been agreed or even formally proposed, but it has been discussed.

 

It’s obviously up to every individual to decide whether the membership scheme is it worth it for them personally, but if you’re in a position where £40-£50 doesn’t make that much difference to you, and you’re thinking about wrapping it in more out of principle than anything else, it’s something to consider.

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50 minutes ago, Groundhog63 said:

So what's people's intentions? I take it, despite all the problems, we're all going to renew? 😂

 

All a tad catch 22, tbf. 2 ballot wins and 3 successful Members sale purchases has, probably, moved the dial enough for us. Having said that, is it still gonna be £47??

 

100% not renewing our memberships. This is our last season. Was just reading something about Chelsea yesterday on X and they are changing their memberships and ticketing for next season. One of the things mooted is going to a ballot and their fans aren't happy about it at all. A lot of them saying fans of other teams who've gone down that route hate it and they would be spot on there.

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I was considering not renewing but I'd only be spiting myself when I have FOMO every week. It's a losing battle, the club will do what they think is the best for them and not give us a thought.

 

I'd be up for protesting like, could hoy 160,000 tennis balls aal owa the box office. One for each member in the Sunderland queue. 

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18 hours ago, bobbydazzla said:

 

  • Membership purchase windows: June-Aug and Dec-Jan.
  • For high profile games: Extensive ballot entry history / purchase history. Not just a month and 1 x ballot entry.
  • For high profile games: Priority for verified membership. Upload ID to your account and prove who you are and you get a better chance of a ticket.
  • For high profile games: Limit the number of tickets that can be bought on behalf of linked accounts.
  • Touting site crackdown: People on here have given them the details of tickets that were bought via sites and NUFC weren't interested.
  • Transparency: For each game, publish approx. number of tickets going into ballot vs number in general sale. Why are they so reluctant to do this, it just creates suspicion and it isn't sensitive info.
  • Membership scheme: Allow members to build up recognition for how long they've been a member, number of ballots entered, tickets bought etc. If demand is high for a game, use this to prioritise over new members with no history.
  • Transfers: Tickets can only be shared via an official club transfer, they can't be emailed to a 3rd party. Limit the number of transfers each member can make. NUFC can then at least track transfers and spot potential touts.

 

And that's just off the top of my head

 

 

 

 

 

 


1. Is definitely a non starter.

2. Doable 

3. Good idea though not sure how you check that ID at turnstiles to match owner.

4. Pros n cons. Thinking of families and groups of friends.

5. Not sure if that is always the case but definitely could be encouraged more by the club.

6. Fair enough but equally there is no gain in outrage when we know the club need to maximise its income opportunities at the current stadium.

7 & 8. Definitely a priority I agree.

 

Pretty much all of these were raised a couple of months ago so see what happens going forward into the new season.

 

 

 

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1 hour ago, Wallsendmag said:

 

100% not renewing our memberships. This is our last season. Was just reading something about Chelsea yesterday on X and they are changing their memberships and ticketing for next season. One of the things mooted is going to a ballot and their fans aren't happy about it at all. A lot of them saying fans of other teams who've gone down that route hate it and they would be spot on there.


The ballot is genuinely a no-win for everyone TBH. It’s the ‘fairest’ way in absolute terms, but also you may as well give up being an active fan if you can only go to 1 or 2 games a season. 

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2 minutes ago, AyeDubbleYoo said:


The ballot is genuinely a no-win for everyone TBH. It’s the ‘fairest’ way in absolute terms, but also you may as well give up being an active fan if you can only go to 1 or 2 games a season. 

 

The ballot and the crazy ticket prices have killed it for me. The fairest way was putting them on sale at 10am and usually those who wanted them the most would get them. It resulted in a better atmosphere. I've seen myself fake a dentist and doctors appointment

and saying I neeed to get the bairn out of school in the past when my shifts have clashed with tickets going on sale so I could get home and get all my devices fired up! It was the modern way of queuing up outside the ground overnight (done that before) and if you wanted a ticket hard enough you'd end up getting one. Now it's pure chance.

 

Of course the other thing is the amount of bots/touts members are now in competition with to get tickets and sadly the club haven't really taken this seriously and we probably know the reasons why that is.

 

I'm not that arsed really. I've done the best times. For me the atmosphere was always as important as the match and the result. Had some absolutely unreal times in the corner in the late 80s/early 90s when the football was utter shit but I absolutely loved being there to be part of the crowd. Those days are gone now and they aren't coming back either so taking a back seat isn't the big deal it once would have been. Nowadays it's tourists, youtubers, bored kids on their phones, uninterested wealthy people and miserable old men who make up a large part of the crowd and it's no fun anymore.

 

I knew it would be a shitshow when they announced moving to a ballot allocation a few years ago and in that respect it hasn't disappointed.

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@LFEE

 

1. Is definitely a non starter.

Why ? It’s the easiest of all the suggestions to do and it stops touts signing up at any point in the season. If a “real” fan doesn’t have the common sense to buy a membership in the windows, then they can't be very serious about attending games.

 

3. Good idea though not sure how you check that ID at turnstiles to match owner.

 It links to point I made about ticket transfers, if you can’t unofficially transfer tickets to 3rd parties then very few people are at the turnstile with a ticket that doesn’t officially belong to them

 

4. Pros n cons. Thinking of families and groups of friends.

Not ruling it out entirely, just limited the numbers. Along the lines of 1 x member can buy a ticket for 3 x linked members, maximum.

 

5. Not sure if that is always the case but definitely could be encouraged more by the club.

If they’re doing more, it needs to be more visible. What are they doing about the 100’s of derby tickets on 3rd party sites right now ?

 

6. Fair enough but equally there is no gain in outrage when we know the club need to maximise its income opportunities at the current stadium.

I don’t understand your point. We have c15,000 non-ST tickets, why the secrecy about how they’re being sold ?

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1 hour ago, LFEE said:

Fair enough but equally there is no gain in outrage when we know the club need to maximise its income opportunities at the current stadium.

 

Find this interesting. As Bobby says we have around 15k non-ST seats available each game. 

 

As a fanbase are we saying that in the name of PSR we're happy with the club taking more and more of these away from normal fans and also not being transparent about it? Because I think that stinks to high heaven personally. 

 

It doesn't matter to a STH because your seat is always guaranteed, but members logged in yesterday and had queue positions of 400-800 and didn't get a sniff of a ticket. Again that stinks. 

 

 

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4 minutes ago, JLC said:

I'd put money on it being some kind of facial recognition technology in the future to gain access, pay for your drinks etc.

 

I feel like the best solution might be to do with the face and fingerprint ID on your phone. Something like the ticket only activates for 5 minutes at a time once you need to use it, so you have to scan your face or finger just before the turnstile.

 

That's if the club really can be bothered to spend the money to enforce something which doesn't cost them anything financially. 

 

 

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