buzza Posted August 2, 2022 Share Posted August 2, 2022 The fact that sterling, a better and more epxerienced player was sold for 47m, I think any more than 50 and we are getting mugged Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rich Posted August 2, 2022 Share Posted August 2, 2022 Just now, SUPERTOON said: Eh ? Not sure what’s funny tbh, all that matters is what Leicester want, I’m pretty sure they aren’t telling us to bid 20 million less than they want You do this every single transfer window, are you not a fully grown man at this point? They're working with much more data and intel than we are, there'll be a very clear bidding strategy in play. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hovagod Posted August 2, 2022 Share Posted August 2, 2022 Just now, SUPERTOON said: Eh ? Not sure what’s funny tbh, all that matters is what Leicester want, I’m pretty sure they aren’t telling us to bid 20 million less than they want Think the implication is that the encouragement is coming from the player’s camp. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rich Posted August 2, 2022 Share Posted August 2, 2022 Just now, Hovagod said: Think the implication is that the encouragement is coming from the player’s camp. Ta-da. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gdm Posted August 2, 2022 Share Posted August 2, 2022 8 minutes ago, madras said: Did anyone say 50mill and we'd be getting mugged off ? Hawk K implied it with his post or at least that’s what I took from it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SUPERTOON Posted August 2, 2022 Share Posted August 2, 2022 Just now, Rich said: You do this every single transfer window, are you not a fully grown man at this point? They're working with much more data and intel than we are, there'll be a very clear bidding strategy in play. What on earth are you even talking about ? Do what every single window ? We have had 2 windows under these owners, before that I couldn’t have given a fuck what we did in the window under Ashley. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-more Mag Posted August 2, 2022 Share Posted August 2, 2022 I kind of hate having instantaneous access to incomplete and unreliable information. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanshithispantz Posted August 2, 2022 Share Posted August 2, 2022 (edited) It probably doesn't matter what the initial bid was, the point of an opening bid is to let someone know you're wanting to enter negotiations. Your initial bid should pretty much never be accepted. Edited August 2, 2022 by Hanshithispantz Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaKa Posted August 2, 2022 Share Posted August 2, 2022 3 minutes ago, SUPERTOON said: Eh ? Not sure what’s funny tbh, all that matters is what Leicester want, I’m pretty sure they aren’t telling us to bid 20 million less than they want It's much more complex than that though. We must be getting information from some party that has let us know there is a chance Leicester might move him for less. And so we go in lower and work from there. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SUPERTOON Posted August 2, 2022 Share Posted August 2, 2022 3 minutes ago, Hovagod said: Think the implication is that the encouragement is coming from the player’s camp. If the players camp are telling us to bid that low, it would suggest they are indeed using our interest to get either flush out other clubs or get him a better contract. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hovagod Posted August 2, 2022 Share Posted August 2, 2022 Just now, SUPERTOON said: If the players camp are telling us to bid that low, it would suggest they are indeed using our interest to get either flush out other clubs or get him a better contract. Yep, quite possibly. But isn’t it the same agency that has Trippier on its books? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PlymouthGeordie Posted August 2, 2022 Share Posted August 2, 2022 Just now, KaKa said: Again ... no I didn't come on here berating the club for not bidding for those two, or whingeing about them going for Maddison instead. I simply said they were two quality alternatives, and that personally I'd go for them for the much lower prices, but would be comfortable with the call the club made as they seem to be prioritising Prem experience. I haven't seen people berate the club. I've seen people confused by the approach of both low ball and back loading offers for players whose value is obviously going to be in excess of 50m. Essentially, you're saying people can only have an opinion but only if it's a positive one. You offer up alternative players as if you know better than the club but others can't ask questions on how we've approached bids? I've not seen many (if any) outright criticise the club. Most are just trying to understand the logic behind it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deuce Posted August 2, 2022 Share Posted August 2, 2022 Some of y’all need to log off for a minute, goddamn. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
HawK Posted August 2, 2022 Share Posted August 2, 2022 4 minutes ago, gdm said: Hawk K implied it with his post or at least that’s what I took from it. Nope, didn't say that at all. Could have @'d me so I'd pick this up more easily. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SUPERTOON Posted August 2, 2022 Share Posted August 2, 2022 (edited) 3 minutes ago, KaKa said: It's much more complex than that though. We must be getting information from some party that has let us know there is a chance Leicester might move him for less. And so we go in lower and work from there. But as I said earlier I’m basing it off the latest reports saying we won’t go anywhere near Leicesters valuation. Im not kicking off or having a go at the owners, it’s an opinion based of the latest news. As I said it could be a load of rubbish. Seems to be a theme on here that if anyone dares raises a question or disagrees with the owners then you are jumped on. Edited August 2, 2022 by SUPERTOON Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SUPERTOON Posted August 2, 2022 Share Posted August 2, 2022 1 minute ago, Hovagod said: Yep, quite possibly. But isn’t it the same agency that has Trippier on its books? Supposedly him and Wood yeah, not sure if true of course. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
HawK Posted August 2, 2022 Share Posted August 2, 2022 5 minutes ago, gdm said: Hawk K implied it with his post or at least that’s what I took from it. To clarify, I was directly responding to Supertoon questioning why we're supposedly underbidding for players. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
54 Posted August 2, 2022 Share Posted August 2, 2022 4 minutes ago, B-more Mag said: I kind of hate having instantaneous access to incomplete and unreliable information. Bingo hard trying to be upset about something that may or may not be true. Especially when most journalists will probably make things look better/worse then whats actually happening as it generates more click, Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SUPERTOON Posted August 2, 2022 Share Posted August 2, 2022 11 minutes ago, Shadow Puppets said: The encouragement could be coming from agents, it could be coming from the player, it could be coming from someone at Leicester who knows they need to sell quickly. Who knows? As things stand, it's still not 100% clear whether this bid has actually been rejected. Yeah possibly, my original post was based of Hope saying it’s been rejected and we won’t go near the asking price. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hovagod Posted August 2, 2022 Share Posted August 2, 2022 I mean, if it is being helped along by the agents, I suppose the clubs are being told to keep chipping away at the valuation until he puts in an official transfer request. If it works it’s quite sensible. But this is all speculation Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanshithispantz Posted August 2, 2022 Share Posted August 2, 2022 (edited) Leiceter want £60m. We offer £35m. Rejected. Word comes out they will accept £50m up front. We offer £40m. Rejected. Player puts in a transfer request. We offer £45-50m structured deal. Accepted. Maybe that's it, maybe it's not, nee cunt knows Edited August 2, 2022 by Hanshithispantz Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
STM Posted August 2, 2022 Share Posted August 2, 2022 The first bid wasn't accepted because it was too low, some might say deliberately too low. The second bid wasn't accepted because we raised our offer for the second bid, so why wouldn't you get the buying club to up the bid again? As I said yesterday, this is where it gets interesting. It will either fall flat on its arse or Leicester will give us some encouragement. The most important thing right now is the player. Maddison at this point needs to put pressure on the club to come to an agreement. He should hand in a transfer request if necessary. That puts Leicester in a corner somewhat. Ashworth and Co will have thought this through. They won't pay 60m for him but then Leicester know that. We might reach 55m with clauses and that would be enough IMO. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
elbee909 Posted August 2, 2022 Share Posted August 2, 2022 Everyone accepted Bruno was a great deal. What a bargain. But don't try to drive a hard bargain like that again apparently Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dokko Posted August 2, 2022 Share Posted August 2, 2022 If the player didn't want it or Leicester weren't selling we'd have been told to fuck off by now. Brendas half arsed, half informed and with no say in it attempt to warn us off doesn't count. Mind, £50m+ and I'd rather go buy goals in Tammy. I'm still not sure we need maddison. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaKa Posted August 2, 2022 Share Posted August 2, 2022 7 minutes ago, PlymouthGeordie said: I haven't seen people berate the club. I've seen people confused by the approach of both low ball and back loading offers for players whose value is obviously going to be in excess of 50m. Essentially, you're saying people can only have an opinion but only if it's a positive one. You offer up alternative players as if you know better than the club but others can't ask questions on how we've approached bids? I've not seen many (if any) outright criticise the club. Most are just trying to understand the logic behind it. My God man. I've already addressed the nonsense you have claimed regarding my posts about alternative players. I won't be addressing it again. I'm not telling you what opinion to have so fire away. I do find it ridiculous and hysterical though, and so I am equally free to say so too. If you enjoy getting worked up about the transfer negotiations when none of us really even know what is actually going on then feel free! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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