LV Posted August 3, 2022 Share Posted August 3, 2022 Barcelona meet need another signing too Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
McCormick Posted August 3, 2022 Share Posted August 3, 2022 Their Journos are saying that “senior sources” have made it clear that he is not for sale. For whatever that’s worth. Probably nothing. Don’t see this one going through at all. We won’t go anywhere near what they’re looking for unfortunately. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jack j Posted August 3, 2022 Share Posted August 3, 2022 Villa have signed the same amount as us this summer haven't they? Carlos Coutinho Kamara Not sure if I've missed anyone Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
FloydianMag Posted August 3, 2022 Share Posted August 3, 2022 Just now, McCormick said: Their Journos are saying that “senior sources” have made it clear that he is not for sale. For whatever that’s worth. Probably nothing. Don’t see this one going through at all. We won’t go anywhere near what they’re looking for unfortunately. Journos are all over the place, clearly they know fuck all. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Karjala Posted August 3, 2022 Share Posted August 3, 2022 52 minutes ago, LV said: I’d say more the difference between 12th and 8th So you think 8th is the best we can achieve this season? I'd be happy with 8th, and won't be telling everyone i think we can get above that, but i think we have a chance of 6th or 7th if everyone stayed fit. 5th wouldn't be impossible, although admittedly very unlikely. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ben Posted August 3, 2022 Share Posted August 3, 2022 Need to move on then, I would like to think we had a good back up for Wilson going into the season Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manxst Posted August 3, 2022 Share Posted August 3, 2022 1 minute ago, jack j said: Villa have signed the same amount as us this summer haven't they? Carlos Coutinho Kamara Not sure if I've missed anyone Augustinsson and Olsen also Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
McCormick Posted August 3, 2022 Share Posted August 3, 2022 2 minutes ago, FloydianMag said: Journos are all over the place, clearly they know fuck all. The same journos that leaked the bid though? Seems like we’re selectively believing them when it’s good news. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jack j Posted August 3, 2022 Share Posted August 3, 2022 Just now, Manxst said: Augustinsson and Olsen also Aye just had a look. Both back ups them. You'd think villa had signed a full starting 11. Don't think they've veen linked with half as many players as us since they done their business early Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeepShow4life Posted August 3, 2022 Share Posted August 3, 2022 I'm a huge Maddison fan but we need a winger and striker much more than him Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LV Posted August 3, 2022 Share Posted August 3, 2022 9 minutes ago, Karjala said: So you think 8th is the best we can achieve this season? I'd be happy with 8th, and won't be telling everyone i think we can get above that, but i think we have a chance of 6th or 7th if everyone stayed fit. 5th wouldn't be impossible, although admittedly very unlikely. Yeah I do. I think that’s our ball park ceiling, if we sign Maddison and a striker/winger. I think with the current squad as it is we would get somewhere between 12th-10th I mean, who knows in reality. It’s just a gut feeling. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanshithispantz Posted August 3, 2022 Share Posted August 3, 2022 11 minutes ago, McCormick said: The same journos that leaked the bid though? Seems like we’re selectively believing them when it’s good news. I can believe them when they say a bid has went in or has been rejected, but I don't see how Hope would have any idea about any 'budget', or how much we value a player. It seems pretty unlikely those things would be properly discussed with anyone outside of the club's transfer circle. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jack j Posted August 3, 2022 Share Posted August 3, 2022 Think any chance of this happening has gone now like. Be interesting to see where we look next Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
madras Posted August 3, 2022 Share Posted August 3, 2022 Given that our bids, if the reports are true of 35mill and around 40mill, seem unrealistically low, I wonder if we are trying to back load on realistic add ons. For example 40mill with an extra 7mill on top half finish, 5mill on Euro qualification, 5mill on a certain amount of England caps etc I'm sure I read that the Trippier deal was done with a very healthy add on of avoiding relegation. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SUPERTOON Posted August 3, 2022 Share Posted August 3, 2022 Just now, Hanshithispantz said: I can believe them when they say a bid has went in or has been rejected, but I don't see how Hope would have any idea about any 'budget', or how much we value a player. It seems pretty unlikely those things would be properly discussed with anyone outside of the club's transfer circle. It’s looking more and more likely we do have a set budget though and the journalist will have been correct. Regardless there is still plenty left in it to fill the positions we need. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SUPERTOON Posted August 3, 2022 Share Posted August 3, 2022 Just now, madras said: Given that our bids, if the reports are true of 35mill and around 40mill, seem unrealistically low, I wonder if we are trying to back load on realistic add ons. For example 40mill with an extra 7mill on top half finish, 5mill on Euro qualification, 5mill on a certain amount of England caps etc I'm sure I read that the Trippier deal was done with a very healthy add on of avoiding relegation. Yeah you’re right on the Trippier one, was quite a sizeable chunk I think Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JP Posted August 3, 2022 Share Posted August 3, 2022 The 'richest of the rich' Man City have just walked away from Cucurella because they don't think he's worth 50mil and wouldn't go above their bid of 40m. The two elite clubs in the country, City and Liverpool, both operate like this. If our recruitment don't value Maddison at 60m then so be it, us fans need to learn to accept that our owners will do this. Yet they are still taking us in absolutely the right direction. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cubaricho Posted August 3, 2022 Share Posted August 3, 2022 22 minutes ago, Karjala said: So you think 8th is the best we can achieve this season? I'd be happy with 8th, and won't be telling everyone i think we can get above that, but i think we have a chance of 6th or 7th if everyone stayed fit. 5th wouldn't be impossible, although admittedly very unlikely. If we finish 8th it’ll be a damn miracle tbh. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LV Posted August 3, 2022 Share Posted August 3, 2022 3 minutes ago, JP said: The 'richest of the rich' Man City have just walked away from Cucurella because they don't think he's worth 50mil and wouldn't go above their bid of 40m. The two elite clubs in the country, City and Liverpool, both operate like this. If our recruitment don't value Maddison at 60m then so be it, us fans need to learn to accept that our owners will do this. Yet they are still taking us in absolutely the right direction. Just pay it man!!11 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SUPERTOON Posted August 3, 2022 Share Posted August 3, 2022 7 minutes ago, JP said: The 'richest of the rich' Man City have just walked away from Cucurella because they don't think he's worth 50mil and wouldn't go above their bid of 40m. The two elite clubs in the country, City and Liverpool, both operate like this. If our recruitment don't value Maddison at 60m then so be it, us fans need to learn to accept that our owners will do this. Yet they are still taking us in absolutely the right direction. Not quite comparable tbh, 50 million for a left back and 60 for one of the best midfielders in the country are quite different. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
elbee909 Posted August 3, 2022 Share Posted August 3, 2022 Market rates are set by both buyers and sellers, after all. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Prophet Posted August 3, 2022 Share Posted August 3, 2022 (edited) The only reason why I could think we'd walk away, is that we saw an opportunity to low ball Leicester, knowing we had alternatives to fall back on. It seems unlikely given Stavely has always spoken about doing things the correct way along with Ashworth's reputation. Generally we've only walked away from deals where we feel like we're being messed about, which isn't the case here. Given talks are allegedly ongoing, I think either Leicester are willing to accept a lower fee than they're letting on, or we're willing to bid more than the press are reporting. Edited August 3, 2022 by The Prophet Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted August 3, 2022 Share Posted August 3, 2022 10 minutes ago, cubaricho said: If we finish 8th it’ll be a damn miracle tbh. It'll be tough but the 3 clubs who finished directly above us are in reach, and Villa's transfer activity has been similar to ours in terms of their starting XI. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LV Posted August 3, 2022 Share Posted August 3, 2022 37 minutes ago, McCormick said: Their Journos are saying that “senior sources” have made it clear that he is not for sale. For whatever that’s worth. Probably nothing. Don’t see this one going through at all. We won’t go anywhere near what they’re looking for unfortunately. Depends if senior sources are Brendan Rogers or an actual executive Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JP Posted August 3, 2022 Share Posted August 3, 2022 7 minutes ago, SUPERTOON said: Not quite comparable tbh, 50 million for a left back and 60 for one of the best midfielders in the country are quite different. Plenty more examples with City. See Ronaldo last summer. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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