jackflap Posted January 14, 2023 Share Posted January 14, 2023 Could see Ward Prowse been a player that Howe would be really keen on but not available until the summer and so we might see us waiting out until then before we make any major additions in that area. Ticks all the boxes, consistent performer, potential to go to another level in a better side, durable, great work rate, prem experience and obviously excellent attitude. With Southampton a fair shout to go down he should be available at a reasonable fee. Could see him slotting in for Longstaff and us having a really tasty yet combative midfield. My shout would be him and Diaby in the summer. Longstaff moves to squad player role who'll get plenty of minutes and never cause any hassle. Almiron will become our version of Bernardo Silva. Will cover either flank and has the work rate to slot into midfield if needs be. Think those two would really transform the top half of the field for us. Not a fan of Neves. Too slow in and out of possession. The type of player who needs to be scoring at least 5 worldies a season to justify which he doesn't do. Called us a long ball team after we dominated most of the game against them with an injury ridden side too! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rich Posted January 14, 2023 Share Posted January 14, 2023 Been ongoing since last February, Zaniolo, think his agent is hard at work. Sky Sport Italia said this in June, and given the first part was so wrong maybe the rest was bollocks as well: “Zaniolo is leaving Roma, he is the player that will finance Roma’s transfer market. There was a rejected bid from Newcastle he doesn’t want to go to the Premier League. Milan and Juventus have started the first approaches for the Italian winger.” Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rich Posted January 14, 2023 Share Posted January 14, 2023 2 minutes ago, jackflap said: Could see Ward Prowse been a player that Howe would be really keen on but not available until the summer and so we might see us waiting out until then before we make any major additions in that area. Ticks all the boxes, consistent performer, potential to go to another level in a better side, durable, great work rate, prem experience and obviously excellent attitude. With Southampton a fair shout to go down he should be available at a reasonable fee. Could see him slotting in for Longstaff and us having a really tasty yet combative midfield. My shout would be him and Diaby in the summer. Longstaff moves to squad player role who'll get plenty of minutes and never cause any hassle. Almiron will become our version of Bernardo Silva. Will cover either flank and has the work rate to slot into midfield if needs be. Think those two would really transform the top half of the field for us. Not a fan of Neves. Too slow in and out of possession. The type of player who needs to be scoring at least 5 worldies a season to justify which he doesn't do. Called us a long ball team after we dominated most of the game against them with an injury ridden side too! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rich Posted January 14, 2023 Share Posted January 14, 2023 I didn't think Ward-Prowse was in Neves' league before going looking for those stats. If we were sorely lacking a set piece taker, then maybe, but given we have Trippier I'd steer well clear. I don't even think JWP would be bad for us, either, I just think we can do much better. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kanji Posted January 14, 2023 Share Posted January 14, 2023 We generally make midfielders and players look ordinary with our tactics and style of play. Hence why we are 3rd. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gawalls Posted January 14, 2023 Share Posted January 14, 2023 2 hours ago, STM said: Wolves want Lascelles you say. Well whatever could we do. Can we afford to pay wolves to take him? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr.Spaceman Posted January 14, 2023 Share Posted January 14, 2023 Why on earth would Wolves want Lascelles? Don't they have a scouting department? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skeletor Posted January 14, 2023 Share Posted January 14, 2023 Tell them his name is Joao Luis Selios Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geordie Ahmed Posted January 14, 2023 Share Posted January 14, 2023 1 hour ago, Zero said: The question is whether he wants to leave. Whilst there is the chance of us winning silverware no chance Lascelles pushes to leave I think in the summer if someone offers him first team football he probably goes Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Interpolic Posted January 14, 2023 Share Posted January 14, 2023 Think we're getting a good deal with Lascelles at the minute tbh. Modest wages, good dressing room presence, not kicking up a fuss at being left out and not too bad a player for a 4th choice who rarely plays. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wiseman Posted January 14, 2023 Share Posted January 14, 2023 Getting rid of Lascelles at the moment would make no sense, finding a better player to sit on the bench, while also providing the leadership he has. As far as the wolves interest goes, adding some proper leadership to their dressing room right now would massive and could be the difference between relegation and survival Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gawalls Posted January 14, 2023 Share Posted January 14, 2023 (edited) 8 minutes ago, Interpolic said: Think we're getting a good deal with Lascelles at the minute tbh. Modest wages, good dressing room presence, not kicking up a fuss at being left out and not too bad a player for a 4th choice who rarely plays. That may be so but he started one game recently and we conceded 2 goals to sheff wed. We can’t keep him around because he’s a good presence in the dressing room can we? Edited January 14, 2023 by Gawalls Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dokko Posted January 14, 2023 Share Posted January 14, 2023 If JL wants to leave and gets offered a good gig like wolves, then we should allow it, even if it weakens us for a few month. Get a young cb in to compete with Schar, I think between the squad we have quite a lot of leadership. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mighty__mag Posted January 14, 2023 Share Posted January 14, 2023 18 minutes ago, wiseman said: Getting rid of Lascelles at the moment would make no sense, finding a better player to sit on the bench, while also providing the leadership he has. As far as the wolves interest goes, adding some proper leadership to their dressing room right now would massive and could be the difference between relegation and survival Although I sort of get what you're saying, the idea of us continuing to move in the right direction would be to continue to further add quality. Its never a case of keeping a good guy who doesn't mind sitting on the bench etc, we need competition for places, Schar and Botman able to be rotated and rested occasionally, as good as or someone who'll become our next CB, Skiniar would be mint, I'm just throwing up a name, probably unlikely, but that's the way we need to be thinking now. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gawalls Posted January 14, 2023 Share Posted January 14, 2023 Just now, mighty__mag said: Although I sort of get what you're saying, the idea of us continuing to move in the right direction would be to continue to further add quality. Its never a case of keeping a good guy who doesn't mind sitting on the bench etc, we need competition for places, Schar and Botman able to be rotated and rested occasionally, as good as or someone who'll become our next CB, Skiniar would be mint, I'm just throwing up a name, probably unlikely, but that's the way we need to be thinking now. ?? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Interpolic Posted January 14, 2023 Share Posted January 14, 2023 20 minutes ago, Gawalls said: That may be so but he started one game recently and we conceded 2 goals to sheff wed. We can’t keep him around because he’s a good presence in the dressing room can we? It's very reductive to pin that all on Lascelles though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted January 14, 2023 Share Posted January 14, 2023 3 hours ago, STM said: Wolves want Lascelles you say. Well whatever could we do. They were after Craig Dawson, I wouldn't mind taking him as the new 4th choice CB then get someone to push Schar for the spot alongside Botman. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SUPERTOON Posted January 14, 2023 Share Posted January 14, 2023 Lascelles is currently 4th choice, but our other 3 cbs all play every week so he’s an injury away from starting. I certainly wouldn’t be selling this month unless we do replace him immediately. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gawalls Posted January 14, 2023 Share Posted January 14, 2023 Just now, Interpolic said: It's very reductive to pin that all on Lascelles though. No - I pin it mainly on 3, him, manquillo and dubs but we can’t deny he has form of being a liability for a long time now. We need to keep moving forward and upgrading on quality in my opinion. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Interpolic Posted January 14, 2023 Share Posted January 14, 2023 2 minutes ago, Gawalls said: No - I pin it mainly on 3, him, manquillo and dubs but we can’t deny he has form of being a liability for a long time now. We need to keep moving forward and upgrading on quality in my opinion. I think if you bring Lascelles into our team with no other changes versus Sheff Wed we win 4-0 and go through to the 4th round. It was a disjointed performance from a cobbled together team lacking match fitness. I'm happy with Lascelles 4th choice for the time being tbh but appreciate your point of view as well Medium to long term I'd want a better player there too but there are at least 5 or 6 spots in the squad I'd prioritise first. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gawalls Posted January 14, 2023 Share Posted January 14, 2023 5 minutes ago, Interpolic said: I think if you bring Lascelles into our team with no other changes versus Sheff Wed we win 4-0 and go through to the 4th round. It was a disjointed performance from a cobbled together team lacking match fitness. I'm happy with Lascelles 4th choice for the time being tbh but appreciate your point of view as well Medium to long term I'd want a better player there too but there are at least 5 or 6 spots in the squad I'd prioritise first. There definitely is more important positions to fill but if I was Howe and somebody phoned me the conversation would still be… we want Lasc yeah - take him elles Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExiledGeordie Posted January 14, 2023 Share Posted January 14, 2023 36 minutes ago, Dokko said: If JL wants to leave and gets offered a good gig like wolves, then we should allow it, even if it weakens us for a few month. Get a young cb in to compete with Schar, I think between the squad we have quite a lot of leadership. Yeah leadership isn’t the issue it’s a replacement. I’d imagine they might look at or have a loan option lined up if this went ahead. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
STM Posted January 14, 2023 Share Posted January 14, 2023 This is why a top notch scouting department is vital. If the opportunity to shift Lascelles and replace him with someone decent on loan comes around, we should do it. Mind, I'd be shocked if: 1. Wolves actually want him 2. Howe would consider letting him go in this window 3. Whether Lascelles would move when he's got a real chance of getting his hands on silverware in the next few seasons Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Butcher Posted January 14, 2023 Share Posted January 14, 2023 Getting rid of Lascelles and replacing him would a young CB with pace would be sensible business. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiresias Posted January 14, 2023 Share Posted January 14, 2023 Yep, need to have someone in the door before he goes mind, just know if we risk it for one game botman goes off injured and we have trippier filling in at cb. Honestly I would leave the decision up to Lascelles, imo he should be playing somewhere not fair on his career for him to be sat on bench for so long and can leave with head held high. If he wants to stay and be part of the team perfectly fine by me too. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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