Gawalls Posted January 14, 2023 Share Posted January 14, 2023 Just now, Interpolic said: It's very reductive to pin that all on Lascelles though. No - I pin it mainly on 3, him, manquillo and dubs but we can’t deny he has form of being a liability for a long time now. We need to keep moving forward and upgrading on quality in my opinion. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Interpolic Posted January 14, 2023 Share Posted January 14, 2023 2 minutes ago, Gawalls said: No - I pin it mainly on 3, him, manquillo and dubs but we can’t deny he has form of being a liability for a long time now. We need to keep moving forward and upgrading on quality in my opinion. I think if you bring Lascelles into our team with no other changes versus Sheff Wed we win 4-0 and go through to the 4th round. It was a disjointed performance from a cobbled together team lacking match fitness. I'm happy with Lascelles 4th choice for the time being tbh but appreciate your point of view as well Medium to long term I'd want a better player there too but there are at least 5 or 6 spots in the squad I'd prioritise first. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gawalls Posted January 14, 2023 Share Posted January 14, 2023 5 minutes ago, Interpolic said: I think if you bring Lascelles into our team with no other changes versus Sheff Wed we win 4-0 and go through to the 4th round. It was a disjointed performance from a cobbled together team lacking match fitness. I'm happy with Lascelles 4th choice for the time being tbh but appreciate your point of view as well Medium to long term I'd want a better player there too but there are at least 5 or 6 spots in the squad I'd prioritise first. There definitely is more important positions to fill but if I was Howe and somebody phoned me the conversation would still be… we want Lasc yeah - take him elles Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExiledGeordie Posted January 14, 2023 Share Posted January 14, 2023 36 minutes ago, Dokko said: If JL wants to leave and gets offered a good gig like wolves, then we should allow it, even if it weakens us for a few month. Get a young cb in to compete with Schar, I think between the squad we have quite a lot of leadership. Yeah leadership isn’t the issue it’s a replacement. I’d imagine they might look at or have a loan option lined up if this went ahead. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
STM Posted January 14, 2023 Share Posted January 14, 2023 This is why a top notch scouting department is vital. If the opportunity to shift Lascelles and replace him with someone decent on loan comes around, we should do it. Mind, I'd be shocked if: 1. Wolves actually want him 2. Howe would consider letting him go in this window 3. Whether Lascelles would move when he's got a real chance of getting his hands on silverware in the next few seasons Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Butcher Posted January 14, 2023 Share Posted January 14, 2023 Getting rid of Lascelles and replacing him would a young CB with pace would be sensible business. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiresias Posted January 14, 2023 Share Posted January 14, 2023 Yep, need to have someone in the door before he goes mind, just know if we risk it for one game botman goes off injured and we have trippier filling in at cb. Honestly I would leave the decision up to Lascelles, imo he should be playing somewhere not fair on his career for him to be sat on bench for so long and can leave with head held high. If he wants to stay and be part of the team perfectly fine by me too. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiresias Posted January 14, 2023 Share Posted January 14, 2023 Also if he does go and there is that modern thing where every single ex player gets booed in the stadium when he visits someone needs to have words. It's a weird thing now, or is it just me that notices it? Perez got booed, now can understand a bit people not thinking he was any good (he was imo) but we got £30m for him somehow, he wasn't worth that lol (sorry Leicester). Now he then did procede to kick the shit out of our players so earned the boos by the end, but wonder if part of that was trying to make a point from the booing? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Interpolic Posted January 14, 2023 Share Posted January 14, 2023 10 minutes ago, The Butcher said: Getting rid of Lascelles and replacing him would a young CB with pace would be sensible business. Think versatility is key with young signings. Get a young centre half who can also play full back and the player who can play across the front 3 we've not had since Remy. Means we're covered better and they'll get more minutes instead of being sat on the bench stagnating. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExiledGeordie Posted January 14, 2023 Share Posted January 14, 2023 Unless there’s an obvious replacement for Lascelles he’s not going anywhere this January. I’ll be amazed if he doesn’t go in the summer though, perfect time to leave. He’s not going to get any game time and we’ll almost certainly bring in a young right sided CB to challenge Schar. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unbelievable Posted January 14, 2023 Share Posted January 14, 2023 15 minutes ago, The Butcher said: Rashford coming off. Would be a decent signing as a Wood replacement. How much have we bid? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted January 14, 2023 Share Posted January 14, 2023 I wold only sell Lascelles if we get in a Schar replacement. A Schar replacement is likely in the summer and would probably cost north of £30m+. I wouldn't sell Lascelles to sign someone else to come in and sit on the bench. He's fine as 4th choice for now. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted January 14, 2023 Share Posted January 14, 2023 (edited) 59 minutes ago, ExiledGeordie said: Yeah leadership isn’t the issue it’s a replacement. I’d imagine they might look at or have a loan option lined up if this went ahead. Why would we brng someone in on loan to replace our 4th choice CB captain and dressing room leader?? As in... sell someone who isn't likely to play but is a leader in the squad... for someone else who isn't likely to play, who isn't a leader in the squad or even a commited playerr. Of all the idiotic things. Edited January 14, 2023 by The College Dropout Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheInfiniteOdyssey Posted January 14, 2023 Share Posted January 14, 2023 We won’t sell Lascelles this window. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExiledGeordie Posted January 14, 2023 Share Posted January 14, 2023 (edited) 17 minutes ago, The College Dropout said: Why would we brng someone in on loan to replace our 4th choice CB captain and dressing room leader?? As in... sell someone who isn't likely to play but is a leader in the squad... for someone else who isn't likely to play, who isn't a leader in the squad or even a commited playerr. Of all the idiotic things. If you actually read what else I’ve said I said I didn’t think Lascelles will go unless there’s an appropriate replacement. I don’t think leadership comes into it, we’ve got plenty of those. If they want Neves and selling Lascelles enables that that’s all I mean. I think he’ll go in the summer. Edited January 14, 2023 by ExiledGeordie Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted January 14, 2023 Share Posted January 14, 2023 15 minutes ago, ExiledGeordie said: If you actually read what else I’ve said I said I didn’t think Lascelles will go unless there’s an appropriate replacement. I don’t think leadership comes into it, we’ve got plenty of those. If they want Neves and selling Lascelles enables that that’s all I mean. I think he’ll go in the summer. It's not Lascelles that needs to be replaced, it's Schar. Replace Schar in the first-team. Move him down the pecking order. Lascelles becomes surplus to requirements. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExiledGeordie Posted January 14, 2023 Share Posted January 14, 2023 4 minutes ago, The College Dropout said: It's not Lascelles that needs to be replaced, it's Schar. Replace Schar in the first-team. Move him down the pecking order. Lascelles becomes surplus to requirements. I agree with that, I think someone will come in in the summer too which I’ve stated somewhere else possibly this thread. Schar and Burn will become the 3rd and 4th choice CBs I reckon. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted January 14, 2023 Share Posted January 14, 2023 Apologies for saying your comment was idiotic. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExiledGeordie Posted January 14, 2023 Share Posted January 14, 2023 7 minutes ago, The College Dropout said: Apologies for saying your comment was idiotic. Haha no worries mate, I think we were/are essentially saying the same thing in agreement ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExiledGeordie Posted January 14, 2023 Share Posted January 14, 2023 (edited) Fwiw I think next season we could see 4 new potential starters - left back, right CB, winger and midfielder. Edited January 14, 2023 by ExiledGeordie Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
James Posted January 14, 2023 Share Posted January 14, 2023 1 hour ago, The College Dropout said: It's not Lascelles that needs to be replaced, it's Schar. Replace Schar in the first-team. Move him down the pecking order. Lascelles becomes surplus to requirements. Got to love our fans. Best defensive record in our history. ”Replace Schar” Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nufcnick Posted January 14, 2023 Share Posted January 14, 2023 1 hour ago, The College Dropout said: It's not Lascelles that needs to be replaced, it's Schar. Replace Schar in the first-team. Move him down the pecking order. Lascelles becomes surplus to requirements. Yeah that’s bright, break up the best defence in the league Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
madras Posted January 14, 2023 Share Posted January 14, 2023 (edited) 2 minutes ago, nufcnick said: Yeah that’s bright, break up the best defence in the league Isn't it all the same thing really, get an upgrade on Lascalles and hopefully we have 3 first choice standard Centre Halves (assuming Burn stays left) to battle it out, rotate, cover for injury/suspension etc. Edited January 14, 2023 by madras Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExiledGeordie Posted January 14, 2023 Share Posted January 14, 2023 5 minutes ago, nufcnick said: Yeah that’s bright, break up the best defence in the league I don’t think it’s necessarily “break up”. Schar has been quality but is 31. I don’t think it’s unreasonable that next season we’ll look to bring in a young right sided CB who is as good as or better than him to challenge for that position. That gives us depth which we’ll need particularly if we’re in Europe. We aren’t going to be able to play the same 11 week in week out next week and we’ll always plan for the future. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rebelrouser Posted January 14, 2023 Share Posted January 14, 2023 Our defence is outstanding and our attack not so much but still good. Seems like forward or midfield for the January window. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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