Sean Posted January 23, 2023 Share Posted January 23, 2023 Hopefully McTominay and Gordon are just smokescreens while we are actually looking at players with real quality, such as Maddison and Diaby as mentioned above. The former are hardly going to excite the fans and give everyone a lift, whereas the latter 2 certainly would. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KDT Posted January 23, 2023 Share Posted January 23, 2023 I hope people are just going to be happy when we've got more than 2 substitutes to being off the bench who might actually have a positive impact on the game. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
McCormick Posted January 23, 2023 Share Posted January 23, 2023 Has there ever been any confirmed cases of a team going for a player or whatever as a “smokescreen” for another? It keep getting said but does it actually ever happen? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBrownBottle Posted January 23, 2023 Share Posted January 23, 2023 3 minutes ago, McCormick said: Has there ever been any confirmed cases of a team going for a player or whatever as a “smokescreen” for another? It keep getting said but does it actually ever happen? I'm still waiting for us to sign Chris Sutton after we only bought Ruel Fox from Norwich to get him through the door Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mahoneys Tache Posted January 23, 2023 Share Posted January 23, 2023 3 minutes ago, McCormick said: Has there ever been any confirmed cases of a team going for a player or whatever as a “smokescreen” for another? It keep getting said but does it actually ever happen? There was an inverted one where we went for George Weah and got Ginola instead. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeeB Posted January 23, 2023 Share Posted January 23, 2023 4 minutes ago, McCormick said: Has there ever been any confirmed cases of a team going for a player or whatever as a “smokescreen” for another? It keep getting said but does it actually ever happen? Loads during the Ashley era, but the smokescreen was to cover up that we weren't going for anyone. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gallowgate Toon Posted January 23, 2023 Share Posted January 23, 2023 The club really has to get a CM and versatile forward in this window - anything less would be poor, imo, and I'm someone who thinks they've not really put a bad foot forward so far. I'm all for trying to get the right player in but having 'a small pool of players we like' sounds a bit odd, in all honesty, considering the thousands of options out there. The likes of Brighton have shown you can make really good buys in less obvious markets when you might not think they're 'PL ready'. If we can't improve the first team then we need to improve the squad this window. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeeB Posted January 23, 2023 Share Posted January 23, 2023 1 minute ago, Mahoneys Tache said: There was an inverted one where we went for George Weah and got Ginola instead. Aye, we got offered Ginola after PSG messed us about with Weah. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBrownBottle Posted January 23, 2023 Share Posted January 23, 2023 2 minutes ago, Mahoneys Tache said: There was an inverted one where we went for George Weah and got Ginola instead. There was the racist and untrue one re John Barnes, Luther Blissett and AC Milan Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SUPERTOON Posted January 23, 2023 Share Posted January 23, 2023 Mctominay and Gordon don’t even start for us imo. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shadow Puppets Posted January 23, 2023 Share Posted January 23, 2023 1 minute ago, SUPERTOON said: Mctominay and Gordon don’t even start for us imo. But do they significantly improve the squad… yes. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ikon Posted January 23, 2023 Share Posted January 23, 2023 (edited) 6 minutes ago, SUPERTOON said: Mctominay and Gordon don’t even start for us imo. Mctominay under Howe and regular games is better than Longstaff in most ways. i still think people overrate Longstaff who is a very limited football player imo. Wouldn’t want Mctominay though. Edited January 23, 2023 by Ikon Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBrownBottle Posted January 23, 2023 Share Posted January 23, 2023 2 minutes ago, SUPERTOON said: Mctominay and Gordon don’t even start for us imo. If we signed them, I can absolutely see circumstances where Gordon starts LW and McTominay starts in midfield, with Willock and Longstaff missing out. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SUPERTOON Posted January 23, 2023 Share Posted January 23, 2023 3 minutes ago, Ikon said: Mctominay under Howe and regular games is better than Longstaff in most ways. i still think people overrate Longstaff. I don’t overrate Longstaff, Mctominay just isn’t very good. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ikon Posted January 23, 2023 Share Posted January 23, 2023 (edited) 1 minute ago, SUPERTOON said: I don’t overrate Longstaff, Mctominay just isn’t very good. I agree that he isn’t very good. But better than Longstaff is if we actually signed him and he got regular games and built his belief up. Imo Edited January 23, 2023 by Ikon Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miggys First Goal Posted January 23, 2023 Share Posted January 23, 2023 Bit naff this window. Unless you’re a Chelsea fan. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris_R Posted January 23, 2023 Share Posted January 23, 2023 Whilst I don't doubt he improves the squad and possibly the first XI, I don't think McTominay takes us to where we want to be. For that reason I think it's a pointless signing, we'll just need to upgrade him again in a year or so. Gordon I feel similarly about, but at least he's got age on his side and has been playing under a shit manager so maybe he's better than he's been showing and could come good. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaKa Posted January 23, 2023 Share Posted January 23, 2023 1 hour ago, SUPERTOON said: They do know we are good now and can bid for good players ? Yes, of course, because the manager himself doesn't know what players are good for his own team. The way some folks are carrying on man. Yikes. Everyone on here was losing their minds over getting Paqueta over the summer, and look at the state of him at West Ham. I don't understand why so many think they know what a good player even is. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
aussiemag Posted January 23, 2023 Share Posted January 23, 2023 Just now, KaKa said: Yes, of course, because the manager himself doesn't know what players are good for his own team. The way some folks are carrying on man. Yikes. Everyone on here was losing their minds over getting Paqueta over the summer, and look at the state of him at West Ham. I don't understand why so many think they know what a good player even is. Paqueta is a good player. Just not suited to the way West Ham play and perhaps struggling with the intensity and speed of the premier league. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ikon Posted January 23, 2023 Share Posted January 23, 2023 Just now, KaKa said: Yes, of course, because the manager himself doesn't know what players are good for his own team. The way some folks are carrying on man. Yikes. Everyone on here was losing their minds over getting Paqueta over the summer, and look at the state of him at West Ham. I don't understand why so many think they know what a good player even is. Kaka, you speak about people losing their minds left right and centre. You seem to lose your mind left right and centre over very small or nothing kind of things. Don’t get hung up so often on basically nothing. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaKa Posted January 23, 2023 Share Posted January 23, 2023 Just now, Ikon said: Kaka, you speak about people losing their minds left right and centre. You seem to lose your mind left right and centre over very small or nothing kind of things. Don’t get hung up so often on basically nothing. You keep telling yourself that pal Anyway you lot carry on about how shit players are. And how they aren't good enough for our team. Enjoy! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shak Posted January 23, 2023 Share Posted January 23, 2023 5 minutes ago, aussiemag said: Paqueta is a good player. Just not suited to the way West Ham play and perhaps struggling with the intensity and speed of the premier league. Any chance that Gordon might be a good player and just not suited to the way Everton play? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted January 23, 2023 Share Posted January 23, 2023 Just now, Shak said: Any chance that Gordon might be a good player and just not suited to the way Everton play? I certainly think this, got a chance at being our LW starter Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ikon Posted January 23, 2023 Share Posted January 23, 2023 (edited) 7 minutes ago, KaKa said: You keep telling yourself that pal Anyway you lot carry on about how shit players are. And how they aren't good enough for our team. Enjoy! I don’t have any need to keep telling myself anything. “You lot” ?? Stop making shit up. Where have I said anything towards how shit our players are? You strike me as one of those who overreacts and starts arguing about nothing while being alone in an elevator. I like all our players and think they have done wonderfully well. This doesn’t mean that I don’t see room for improvement. It doesn’t mean that I think our players are shite, neither have I mentioned anything like this. Also when it comes to other players, I’m entitled to say who I think isn’t good enough for where we are going. It doesn’t mean that I think they are shite. Edited January 23, 2023 by Ikon Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaKa Posted January 23, 2023 Share Posted January 23, 2023 5 minutes ago, aussiemag said: Paqueta is a good player. Just not suited to the way West Ham play and perhaps struggling with the intensity and speed of the premier league. So if he's struggling with the intensity and speed of the premier league, perhaps it's a good thing we didn't go for him like most on here wanted. In any case, maybe he comes good maybe he doesn't. My point is that I trust Howe and the recruitment team ahead of everyone on here. Ultimately the manager is going to go after the players he believes work best for him to achieve his goals. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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