SteV Posted May 30, 2023 Share Posted May 30, 2023 3 minutes ago, Keegans Export said: Ok, but you're still limited in terms of squad numbers. We had 25 this season, I'm fairly sure we'll have to add Gordon now because he's 22 so that's 26. If we sign nine more players thats 35 so who are the ten on the current squad list you're moving on? Bearing in mind you've got the likes of Hayden, Hendrick and Darlow who are technically still on the books. That’s a valid point re. Gordon, he’ll take one of the 25 slots next season. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BonesJones Posted May 30, 2023 Share Posted May 30, 2023 24 minutes ago, Sufi said: Surely some of those players would be replacements for players sold? We've made a jump equivalent to championship>premier league. Literally 5-6 players who have featured for us this season will serve no purpose next season and probably shouldnt be relied on even in an emergency situation. We could also lose 1-2 players most likely Dubravka and ASM. I could just be out of my mind thinking this is football manager hahaha I know what you mean, I just think the negative impact on our current players would be bigger than the positive impact of signing the players. Just not worth the risk to unsettle a squad, particularly when it's in such a great place mentally right now. However yes on football manager we all like to go abit wild! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geordie Ahmed Posted May 30, 2023 Share Posted May 30, 2023 6 minutes ago, Keegans Export said: Ok, but you're still limited in terms of squad numbers. We had 25 this season, I'm fairly sure we'll have to add Gordon now because he's 22 so that's 26. If we sign nine more players thats 35 so who are the ten on the current squad list you're moving on? Bearing in mind you've got the likes of Hayden, Hendrick and Darlow who are technically still on the books. Dummett and Ritchie out of contract, so that brings the squad down to 24 Then Fraser will be gone, then if Lewis & Manquillo go that takes it down to 21 However Howe seems to want Dummett to stay so could be 22 (Or maybe Dummett stays but only gets in the CL squad but not the PL squad) So there is some flexibility in the squad but the idea that we'll sign 5/6+ is fanciful imo Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted May 30, 2023 Share Posted May 30, 2023 26 minutes ago, Sufi said: I'd like to keep Lascelles and Targett. Targett will want to leave. I want Lascelles to captain the side in a CL game. I also really don't want Lascelles to captain the side in a CL game. He might have to leave fro squad space. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
duo Posted May 30, 2023 Share Posted May 30, 2023 This is going to be a long summer Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KingArthur Posted May 30, 2023 Share Posted May 30, 2023 1 hour ago, Sufi said: I disagree. We leaned very heavily on the same small group of players this season and had great success doing so. A red card, an injury etc could be the difference next season. I think part of the reason those numbers are so low...and part of the reason we relied on the same 16 guys is because howe doesnt trust the fellas at the end of the bench. He's hinted at it recently in terms of him leaning heavily on certain players and barely limping across the finish line. We wont get away with that next season. Even if we can its not a smart risk to take. We cant replace 3 fullbacks and 2 wingers with one player. Ritchie, Lewis and Dummett are all de facto left backs. We already have Targett and Burn there. If we buy left back, all those are gone. RB position we got Trippier and Ashby, so Krafth and Manquillo are 3rd and 4th choice. You don't have to replace these guys necessarily. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteV Posted May 30, 2023 Share Posted May 30, 2023 Just now, KingArthur said: Ritchie, Lewis and Dummett are all de facto left backs. We already have Targett and Burn there. If we buy left back, all those are gone. RB position we got Trippier and Ashby, so Krafth and Manquillo are 3rd and 4th choice. You don't have to replace these guys necessarily. Doubt Dummett goes anywhere. Ever. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted May 30, 2023 Share Posted May 30, 2023 I would consider Ritchie and Dummettt player-coaches or player-cheerleaders at this point, they don't have any part to play in the actual team. Lewis is a bit of an anomaly that I guess we might be able to loan out, or we would if Shola wasn't in charge of loans. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KingArthur Posted May 30, 2023 Share Posted May 30, 2023 35 minutes ago, The Prophet said: Like TCD says, unless there's an influx of youngster who are immediately loaned out, we won't sign nine. Howe has spoken at length about evolving the squad and the detrimental effect of too many signing on team spirit. If we sign five, we have two passable players in every position. I am interested to see how Howe handles any bids for Lascelles or Murphy though. By all accounts key men in the dressing room, but he'll be under pressure with FFP to consider and the players moving to the fringes of the squad. I think both are out if a decent bid comes in. Great lads, but we can do better and their price most likely is only going down. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Edgar Posted May 30, 2023 Share Posted May 30, 2023 48 minutes ago, NoU said: Szobo is also playing in of the most high-press clubs in Europe. You can't really tell from those stats how Maddison would fit in that role. I am sure our scouts will assess that better Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lotus Posted May 30, 2023 Share Posted May 30, 2023 We need more left footers in midfield and attack. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PauloGeordio Posted May 30, 2023 Share Posted May 30, 2023 3 minutes ago, Lotus said: We need more left footers in midfield and attack. Not on the right we don’t! Miggy Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cronky Posted May 30, 2023 Share Posted May 30, 2023 'Tanner ball player' was a term in Scotland - I'm not sure if it's still in use - but it refers to a skilful player who only plays when they're in possession of the ball. That seems to be a charge that's being levelled at Maddison, but I doubt that it's justified. Even if it is, I think Eddie will soon sort him out, because he won't get picked. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sushimonster85 Posted May 30, 2023 Share Posted May 30, 2023 42 minutes ago, SteV said: Doubt Dummett goes anywhere. Ever. Yep, Dummett is never leaving, at least not till our academy can be relied on to start regularly producing players good enough to get into the PL/European squad. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted May 30, 2023 Share Posted May 30, 2023 1 hour ago, The Prophet said: Like TCD says, unless there's an influx of youngster who are immediately loaned out, we won't sign nine. Howe has spoken at length about evolving the squad and the detrimental effect of too many signing on team spirit. If we sign five, we have two passable players in every position. I am interested to see how Howe handles any bids for Lascelles or Murphy though. By all accounts key men in the dressing room, but he'll be under pressure with FFP to consider and the players moving to the fringes of the squad. Lascelles has barely played in 2 seasons. I doubt anyone will be in for him unless we actively shop him around. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LV Posted May 30, 2023 Share Posted May 30, 2023 1 hour ago, duo said: This is going to be a long summer This thread has currently got the feel of a fever dream Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sushimonster85 Posted May 30, 2023 Share Posted May 30, 2023 24 minutes ago, LV said: This thread has currently got the feel of a fever dream Aye, we need a signing in to settle everyone down. Or even just one of the more trusted journo's putting a name out there. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jack j Posted May 30, 2023 Share Posted May 30, 2023 Be Surprised if we've got anyone in before we play Rangers in mid July. Think we will be playing the waiting game again. They've already shown we won't be bent over for £££ that's not gonna change Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
toon25 Posted May 30, 2023 Share Posted May 30, 2023 Will we release Fraser, do you reckon? What will likely happen with the likes of Hendrick, Clark and Hayden? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
r0cafella Posted May 30, 2023 Share Posted May 30, 2023 Just now, toon25 said: Will we release Fraser, do you reckon? What will likely happen with the likes of Hendrick, Clark and Hayden? No, we will try sell him probably get a nominal fee ala Shelvey. I'm sure the contracts of Hendrick, /Clark and Hayden have been written down already. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ponsaelius Posted May 30, 2023 Share Posted May 30, 2023 Just now, toon25 said: Will we release Fraser, do you reckon? What will likely happen with the likes of Hendrick, Clark and Hayden? Clark is out of contract. The other two I'd imagine another subsidised loan or paid off. Hayden had an agreed fee based on promotion. His injury problems perhaps make it unlikely they will buy for the agreed fee I reckon Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted May 30, 2023 Share Posted May 30, 2023 3 hours ago, LV said: Some folk are getting a little overexcited They definitely are. I come into this thread for the first time today and there's talk of signing nine players. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted May 30, 2023 Share Posted May 30, 2023 Hayden is here until 2026. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SUPERTOON Posted May 30, 2023 Share Posted May 30, 2023 44 minutes ago, jack j said: Be Surprised if we've got anyone in before we play Rangers in mid July. Think we will be playing the waiting game again. They've already shown we won't be bent over for £££ that's not gonna change We did most of our business before pre season last year. This summer will be the same imo. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Prophet Posted May 30, 2023 Share Posted May 30, 2023 1 minute ago, SUPERTOON said: We did most of our business before pre season last year. This summer will be the same imo. Howe said as much in his last press conference. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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