greydos Posted May 31, 2023 Share Posted May 31, 2023 2 minutes ago, Coffee_Johnny said: Wouldn’t be surprised on a freebie. Anyway, might have been on the shopping list last couple of windows, doubt he is now. Interesting point on player’s wages. The agent takes their percentage not just on the transfer fee and/or signing on fee, but also of the entire wages throughout the contract. So if an agent is on say 10% commission for Tielemans, the agent will pocket £20k per week through the contract at £200k. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Optimistic Nut Posted May 31, 2023 Share Posted May 31, 2023 Tielemans will go to someone like Villa or West Ham. As a squad player I'd take him but not on £200k a week. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt1892 Posted May 31, 2023 Share Posted May 31, 2023 One of the main issues last season was that we didn’t have anyone to rotate with Bruno, who could sit deep and play the ball out from the back when needed. Tielemans could do this and open up options in midfield. The other option is that we get someone like Alex Scott who would cost similar over the length of contract when you include his transfer fee, with no idea of how good he could become at the top level. Remember that the young championship player of the year the previous year was Brennan Johnson and there hasn’t been a clamour for his signature on here. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elric Posted May 31, 2023 Share Posted May 31, 2023 Aye, Tielemans will want massive wages like. Then there's the danger that his form for Leicester last season is actually the new 'normal'. Villa is a good shout, he can be their next Coutinho Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coffee_Johnny Posted May 31, 2023 Share Posted May 31, 2023 2 minutes ago, greydos said: Interesting point on player’s wages. The agent takes their percentage not just on the transfer fee and/or signing on fee, but also of the entire wages throughout the contract. So if an agent is on say 10% commission for Tielemans, the agent will pocket £20k per week through the contract at £200k. If it was a £40m fee and £120k per week for three years, then total contract value would be £58.7m, so circa £5.8m for the agent (nice work, if you can get it…). £200k for three years, with no transfer fee, would be circa £3.1m for the agent (both assuming a 52 week payment schedule). Outrageous really. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PRL Posted May 31, 2023 Share Posted May 31, 2023 2 minutes ago, Matt1892 said: One of the main issues last season was that we didn’t have anyone to rotate with Bruno, who could sit deep and play the ball out from the back when needed. Tielemans could do this and open up options in midfield. The other option is that we get someone like Alex Scott who would cost similar over the length of contract when you include his transfer fee, with no idea of how good he could become at the top level. Remember that the young championship player of the year the previous year was Brennan Johnson and there hasn’t been a clamour for his signature on here. I would take Johnson for the squad for sure. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mazzy Posted May 31, 2023 Share Posted May 31, 2023 Villa with Gerrard as manager I could've seen that but I don't think Emery will want him. I can see him at West Ham for sure or somewhere in Germany. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
greydos Posted May 31, 2023 Share Posted May 31, 2023 2 minutes ago, Coffee_Johnny said: If it was a £40m fee and £120k per week for three years, then total contract value would be £58.7m, so circa £5.8m for the agent (nice work, if you can get it…). £200k for three years, with no transfer fee, would be circa £3.1m for the agent (both assuming a 52 week payment schedule). Outrageous really. It totally is outrageous, given that being an agent is a largely unregulated business. It just adds a little more perspective on player wage demands. They might be asking for more as they have ongoing liabilities to their agent/staff. It’s a bit like a boxer having to pay trainer’s wages etc out of their fight earnings, the headline figure might not reveal the whole picture. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteV Posted May 31, 2023 Share Posted May 31, 2023 If we’re going to smash our current wage structure, you’d really hope it was for someone better than Tielemans. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coffee_Johnny Posted May 31, 2023 Share Posted May 31, 2023 Just now, SteV said: If we’re going to smash our current wage structure, you’d really hope it was for someone better than Tielemans. I wonder if we’ve previously paid over the odds (salary wise) for players on a free? Have a vague memory of seemingly ridiculous figures being previously leaked but can’t recall who or when. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ianovthetoon Posted May 31, 2023 Share Posted May 31, 2023 3 minutes ago, Coffee_Johnny said: I wonder if we’ve previously paid over the odds (salary wise) for players on a free? Have a vague memory of seemingly ridiculous figures being previously leaked but can’t recall who or when. Demba Ba? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thumbheed Posted May 31, 2023 Share Posted May 31, 2023 1 hour ago, McCormick said: Not trying to yuk anyone’s yum here but he wouldn’t displace any of our current midfielders on current ability. Reminds me of Ayoze Perez but playing deeper. I think he'd improve our team by virtue of being a better finisher tbf. Longstaff missed alot of brillaint chances in the box as well as perhaps not having the composure that could have carved out an opportunity and this guy looks to have that about him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteV Posted May 31, 2023 Share Posted May 31, 2023 3 minutes ago, Coffee_Johnny said: I wonder if we’ve previously paid over the odds (salary wise) for players on a free? Have a vague memory of seemingly ridiculous figures being previously leaked but can’t recall who or when. Jack Colback being on ~£40k p/w is probably an example none of us want to remember…. *although (tin hat on) I actually thought he was decent in his first season (obviously fell off a cliff and down to the bottom of the sea after that). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
madras Posted May 31, 2023 Share Posted May 31, 2023 I'm very wary of any wage prices put on players heads. Often seem to be miles out. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mountain Posted May 31, 2023 Share Posted May 31, 2023 50 minutes ago, Matt1892 said: We should be all over that for squad depth. No thanks, he's tosh other than a few nice long-range strikes per season. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LionOfGosforth Posted May 31, 2023 Share Posted May 31, 2023 Someone might pay Tielemans 200k p/w but it won't be us, thankfully. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mountain Posted May 31, 2023 Share Posted May 31, 2023 34 minutes ago, Matt1892 said: One of the main issues last season was that we didn’t have anyone to rotate with Bruno, who could sit deep and play the ball out from the back when needed. Tielemans could do this and open up options in midfield. The other option is that we get someone like Alex Scott who would cost similar over the length of contract when you include his transfer fee, with no idea of how good he could become at the top level. Remember that the young championship player of the year the previous year was Brennan Johnson and there hasn’t been a clamour for his signature on here. Alex Scott wouldn't want to leave her job at the BBC. Also we don't need an RB. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boey_Jarton Posted May 31, 2023 Share Posted May 31, 2023 I'd stay well clear of Tielemans. Bloke looks like he has played with lead in his boots for the last 18 months. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt1892 Posted May 31, 2023 Share Posted May 31, 2023 This was what Ben Jacobs said about him in February… What has Jacobs said about Tielemans? Jacobs has told GMS that Tielemans will not be short of potential suitors in the summer and that there is ‘some interest from La Liga and the Bundesliga’ alongside the English top-flight. He said: “There'll be plenty of clubs looking at Youri Tielemans. Newcastle are another Premier League club to watch. “And there’s even, I think, some interest from La Liga and the Bundesliga too in Tielemans because as soon as he becomes a free agent at the end of the season, then ultimately, these type of clubs not only see a bargain because they don't have to pay a fee, but Tielemans’ wages, by Premier League standards, are relatively modest as well.” Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ando7 Posted May 31, 2023 Share Posted May 31, 2023 Tielemans won't be coming not when he's wanting a 9m signing on fee. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BeloEmre Posted May 31, 2023 Share Posted May 31, 2023 Ando 🤣 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack27 Posted May 31, 2023 Share Posted May 31, 2023 2 minutes ago, Ando7 said: Tielemans won't be coming not when he's wanting a 9m signing on fee. He’s back Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
FLUMPO235 Posted May 31, 2023 Share Posted May 31, 2023 13 minutes ago, Mountain said: Alex Scott wouldn't want to leave her job at the BBC. Also we don't need an RB. Not interested in her replacing or even being an understudy for trippier, she can stay at the bbc. or better she can leave the bbc for babestation. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Infatuation Junkie Posted May 31, 2023 Share Posted May 31, 2023 53 minutes ago, Optimistic Nut said: Tielemans will go to someone like Villa or West Ham. As a squad player I'd take him but not on £200k a week. 200k a week and he was at club mac water park last year with his lass and bairns Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PauloGeordio Posted May 31, 2023 Share Posted May 31, 2023 3 minutes ago, Ando7 said: Tielemans won't be coming not when he's wanting a 9m signing on fee. So come on then you tease, who’s 1st through the door? Contract renewals not counting! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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