Elric Posted June 3, 2023 Share Posted June 3, 2023 (edited) Tierney just seems like a particularly lazy link, tbf. I'd certainly hope we've scouted potential left back upgrades/alternatives extensively. Arsenal being seemingly desperate to get rid, coupled with his injury history should be massive red flags. If we're balancing risk/reward I'd rather take a punt on some up-and-coming prospect rather than a HG crock who kNoWs dA lEaGuE. Edit: obviously if he did sign I'd be fully behind him. I'm just really, really sick of seeing crocks at this club. Feels like we've had a disproportionate amount compared to other clubs Edited June 3, 2023 by Elric Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
STM Posted June 3, 2023 Share Posted June 3, 2023 Just to get an idea of the person. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
STM Posted June 3, 2023 Share Posted June 3, 2023 7 minutes ago, Elric said: Tierney just seems like a particularly lazy link, tbf. I'd certainly hope we've scouted potential left back upgrades/alternatives extensively. Arsenal being seemingly desperate to get rid, coupled with his injury history should be massive red flags. If we're balancing risk/reward I'd rather take a punt on some up-and-coming prospect rather than a HG crock who kNoWs dA lEaGuE. It's not a case of "knowing the league", it's case of being one of the best in DA league. The opposing arguement would be to avoid signing someone who has excelled in the German league or wherever because how can we be certain of their true level. Ultimately, as you say, trust our scouts and understand the risk/reward. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt1892 Posted June 3, 2023 Share Posted June 3, 2023 I think the context of the time missed is important, if you land awkwardly and dislocate your shoulder which needs an operation it is one of those things. We have seen with Trippier and Isak in the last 18 months that freak injuries happen. The problem with Tierney is that he has had 2 of these in the last 4 years as well as a few other niggles. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Schecter Posted June 3, 2023 Share Posted June 3, 2023 7 minutes ago, STM said: Just to get an idea of the person. Well his personality will fit right in. Seems a very likeable down to earth lad. I'm comfortable recruiting him, on a side note the Arsenal canteen looks nothing special. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
WilliamPS Posted June 3, 2023 Share Posted June 3, 2023 Suspect LB is not the priority, midfield is, so the approach will be to get the midfielder deal(s) done and then have a look at what budget is left before making any LB moves Might be wrong, but at LB there’s no rush Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gawalls Posted June 3, 2023 Share Posted June 3, 2023 34 minutes ago, Jack27 said: I’d argue every transfer is a risk tbf Someone who averages 16 games a season injured is a bigger risk. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gawalls Posted June 3, 2023 Share Posted June 3, 2023 2 minutes ago, WilliamPS said: Suspect LB is not the priority, midfield is, so the approach will be to get the midfielder deal(s) done and then have a look at what budget is left before making any LB moves Might be wrong, but at LB there’s no rush Disagree there - not only do we have CL next season to prepare for but also teams that sit back and a traditional LB who can help out in stack will also help that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gawalls Posted June 3, 2023 Share Posted June 3, 2023 25 minutes ago, Elric said: Tierney just seems like a particularly lazy link, tbf. I'd certainly hope we've scouted potential left back upgrades/alternatives extensively. Arsenal being seemingly desperate to get rid, coupled with his injury history should be massive red flags. If we're balancing risk/reward I'd rather take a punt on some up-and-coming prospect rather than a HG crock who kNoWs dA lEaGuE. Edit: obviously if he did sign I'd be fully behind him. I'm just really, really sick of seeing crocks at this club. Feels like we've had a disproportionate amount compared to other clubs Who said arsenal are desperate to get rid? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
McCormick Posted June 3, 2023 Share Posted June 3, 2023 4 minutes ago, WilliamPS said: Suspect LB is not the priority, midfield is, so the approach will be to get the midfielder deal(s) done and then have a look at what budget is left before making any LB moves Might be wrong, but at LB there’s no rush Disagree tbh. It’s one of the areas of our first xi that most needs an upgrade. Burn’s been great for the most part but a fully fit Tierney potentially gives us so much more. Great character by all accounts too. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
STM Posted June 3, 2023 Share Posted June 3, 2023 2 minutes ago, Gawalls said: Someone who averages 16 games a season injured is a bigger risk. That's quite misleading if someone has had a reoccurring knee injury though? It would be like counting Shearers two seasons out against him or even Fat Ronaldo. Shouldn't his injury record be left to experts? More specifically, is the chance or reoccurrence likely? If it was persistent hamstrings etc, I think that's possible a different matter. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holloway Posted June 3, 2023 Share Posted June 3, 2023 What are his strengths, I've hardly seen him play Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kimbo Posted June 3, 2023 Share Posted June 3, 2023 3 minutes ago, STM said: That's quite misleading if someone has had a reoccurring knee injury though? It would be like counting Shearers two seasons out against him or even Fat Ronaldo. Shouldn't his injury record be left to experts? More specifically, is the chance or reoccurrence likely? If it was persistent hamstrings etc, I think that's possible a different matter. Yep, it’s for medical experts to take a look at and make an assessment. If they think he can be kept fit then it’s a no brainer if he’s available, he’s as guaranteed to be successful as you’re going to get. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gawalls Posted June 3, 2023 Share Posted June 3, 2023 4 minutes ago, STM said: That's quite misleading if someone has had a reoccurring knee injury though? It would be like counting Shearers two seasons out against him or even Fat Ronaldo. Shouldn't his injury record be left to experts? More specifically, is the chance or reoccurrence likely? If it was persistent hamstrings etc, I think that's possible a different matter. I’ll trust the experts but arsenal left it to their experts after his bad Celtic record, signed him and it averages out the same. Comes down to the old definition of insanity at some point. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gawalls Posted June 3, 2023 Share Posted June 3, 2023 1 minute ago, Holloway said: What are his strengths, I've hardly seen him play Not his knees Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Abacus Posted June 3, 2023 Share Posted June 3, 2023 6 minutes ago, Gawalls said: Who said arsenal are desperate to get rid? I don't think anyone said desperate. Just that London journos were pushing the story, and then I mentioned they were keen to use the money to bring in Rice as I'd read that in the paper this morning. Plus, he's lost his place to Zinchenko last season, so seems an obvious one for them to move on. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt1892 Posted June 3, 2023 Share Posted June 3, 2023 Arsenal were put on UEFAs watch list last summer over FFP so they will likely have to sell to help balance the books if they want to sign Rice and Caicedo. https://www.football.london/arsenal-fc/news/arsenal-financial-fair-play-warning-24919681?int_source=amp_continue_reading&int_medium=amp&int_campaign=continue_reading_button#amp-readmore-target Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AJ9 Posted June 3, 2023 Share Posted June 3, 2023 Tierney definitely improves us a lot like. Able to do the bits Burn does well, can tuck into a three but also a threat in an attacking sense Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
kocunar Posted June 3, 2023 Share Posted June 3, 2023 4 minutes ago, Matt1892 said: Arsenal were put on UEFAs watch list last summer over FFP so they will likely have to sell to help balance the books if they want to sign Rice and Caicedo. https://www.football.london/arsenal-fc/news/arsenal-financial-fair-play-warning-24919681?int_source=amp_continue_reading&int_medium=amp&int_campaign=continue_reading_button#amp-readmore-target What does watch list mean? Were they not watching them before? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted June 3, 2023 Share Posted June 3, 2023 1 hour ago, McCormick said: Might just be my lack of knowledge on left-backs but- injury history aside- I can’t think of a better (realistic) option for us than Tierney. If it’s 30m or less then it’d be a great deal imo. The Loaded channel lads on youtube are doing a series of videos comparing left backs, and they threw in some Croatian lad called Borna Sosa who plays for Stuttgart and has insane attacking credentials. Maybe he's an option. Not sure I would take them seriously now mind, they seem to think Arsenal will be looking for £40-50m for Tierney, don't know where they pulled that figure from, sounds totally unrealistic. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kanji Posted June 3, 2023 Share Posted June 3, 2023 Just now, TRon said: The Loaded channel lads on youtube are doing a series of videos comparing left backs, and they threw in some Croatian lad called Borna Sosa who plays for Stuttgart and has insane attacking credentials. Maybe he's an option. Not sure I would take them seriously now mind, they seem to think Arsenal will be looking for £40-50m for Tierney, don't know where they pulled that figure from, sounds totally unrealistic. we were linked with sosa in the summer Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kanji Posted June 3, 2023 Share Posted June 3, 2023 And for the record I don’t want to send 30m to arsenal for their left back with a laundry list of injuries for them to then go and use the 30m to fund a purchase of someone to improve their team. No thank you. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
STM Posted June 3, 2023 Share Posted June 3, 2023 13 minutes ago, Gawalls said: I’ll trust the experts but arsenal left it to their experts after his bad Celtic record, signed him and it averages out the same. Comes down to the old definition of insanity at some point. What your saying here doesn't make sense though does it? If he had muscle injury problems, then carried them on at Arsenal, then yes he might be more susceptible to them and therefore its a risk. However, from what I'm aware his injuries have either been unrelated niggles, which any player can have, which ultimately comes down to luck or a serious knee problem which he's now had surgery on and presumably is fixed. This idea that you or me could somehow find some medical issue that the actually experts can't is a bit weird. Whatever we have thought of, you can pretty much guarantee these doctors will have already thought of. Unless you have a mistrust in science and the medical profession? If our medical team say "he's had injuries before and he's likely to have similar problems in the future", then fine, we shouldn't touch him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted June 3, 2023 Share Posted June 3, 2023 22 minutes ago, Holloway said: What are his strengths, I've hardly seen him play He's good one-on-one, he can cross the ball and he can play left of a back three. If he hadn't had his injuries he'd probably be the best left-back in the league. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted June 3, 2023 Share Posted June 3, 2023 1 minute ago, Kanji said: And for the record I don’t want to send 30m to arsenal for their left back with a laundry list of injuries for them to then go and use the 30m to fund a purchase of someone to improve their team. No thank you. I think Arsenal are definitely trying to offload Tierney, and I think we are clearly interested, but would have to be the right price. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Recommended Posts