SteV Posted June 8, 2023 Share Posted June 8, 2023 Rice would be an unbelievable signing, and one which definitely has the potential to elevate us to the next level. Sadly I suspect the fee and, more importantly, wages, would be out of our scope for the moment. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Prophet Posted June 8, 2023 Share Posted June 8, 2023 Adams has generally been very good whenever I've watched him for Leeds or the US. He has a great engine and gets through loads of graft. Not the best with the ball at his feet, but he'd be a reasonably cheap option if we're looking at a number six type. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rich Posted June 8, 2023 Share Posted June 8, 2023 Think Howe would properly love Adams, like. He's got a touch of Kanté about him and loads of room to get even better. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Butcher Posted June 8, 2023 Share Posted June 8, 2023 No thanks to yanks. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KDT Posted June 8, 2023 Share Posted June 8, 2023 I do think we would be willing to pay the fee for Rice but the wages and the London pull will probably make us short on what he wants. He's the next England captain, I think for that reason we/PIF would find a way to get the fee sorted within FFP, it would be massive for PIF to have the England captain playing for a team they own. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shearergol Posted June 8, 2023 Share Posted June 8, 2023 We're not signing Rice. May as well put that one to bed right away. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mondonewc Posted June 8, 2023 Share Posted June 8, 2023 Madrid got a great deal for Bellingham if Rice goes for the supposed fee being quoted, 5 years younger, and Bellingham is a level above Rice and has a much higher ceiling, very possibly a future Ballon D'or winner whereas Rice close to 0% chance to win that in his career. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KDT Posted June 8, 2023 Share Posted June 8, 2023 Just now, Shearergol said: We're not signing Rice. May as well put that one to bed right away. Aye I know, be lush if we did though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaqen Posted June 8, 2023 Share Posted June 8, 2023 38 minutes ago, Rafalove said: I don’t think us being a much better project than Spurs is nebulous at all. Also think you’re clutching at straws a bit to suggest playing ina better stadium would be key in a player making a decision to join your club, but playing infront of better fans wouldn’t. I've watched a fair few Ben Foster podcasts where ex players rave about SJP and the atmosphere. And that's generally ones who've played here when we've been shite. I think if it was purely a stadium choice the vast majority would rather play here than at Spurs. For all the talk about Levy being tight I could easily see him paying £50m for Maddison though. They dropped that on Richarlison last summer just to add some depth. That's if they want him of course, if not I reckon we'd be the only other top side in for him and would probably be able to get him around £40m. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KDT Posted June 8, 2023 Share Posted June 8, 2023 1 minute ago, mondonewc said: Madrid got a great deal for Bellingham if Rice goes for the supposed fee being quoted, 5 years younger, and Bellingham is a level above Rice and has a much higher ceiling, very possibly a future Ballon D'or winner whereas Rice close to 0% chance to win that in his career. Not saying in terms of natural talent that Bellingham isn't noticeably better but I do think there's more to Rice than he's been able to show in a pretty average & back foot playing West Ham team. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
McCormick Posted June 8, 2023 Share Posted June 8, 2023 11 minutes ago, The Prophet said: Adams has generally been very good whenever I've watched him for Leeds or the US. He has a great engine and gets through loads of graft. Not the best with the ball at his feet, but he'd be a reasonably cheap option if we're looking at a number six type. Yeah, he’s actually pretty decent imo. Was Leeds’ best player before his injury and they fell apart without him. Wouldn’t be against it if he’s going cheap. I’d hope we’d be slightly more ambitious though. Really need this to be a transformative window if we intend to stay in the top 4. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
timeEd32 Posted June 8, 2023 Share Posted June 8, 2023 (edited) It's incredibly unlikely but from a fee/wages standpoint I'm assuming we could make it work. If you listen to that podcast with Jamie Reuben he talks about how there isn't a set amount of money that will be spent. Positions and players are prioritized and a case is made for each. If we think there is no single player that could transform us more then it could work. We'd have to sacrifice elsewhere most likely. For example, maybe that means we don't upgrade at LB for next season or maybe it rules out Dom and we get a younger, £30M player for that position or maybe it means we have to sell Maxi. There are definitely ways to make the numbers work for a 24 year old England international. Convincing him to leave London and come here over someone like Arsenal is a far bigger hurdle. Edited June 8, 2023 by timeEd32 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mazzy Posted June 8, 2023 Share Posted June 8, 2023 Of those listed it's only really Walker-Peters who I'm not bothered about. Adams and Lavia are both good options to be considering and I'd actually be pleased to see either of them here. Can't imagine either are our first choice on the CM shortlist but would certainly be good quality to have in the squad. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted June 8, 2023 Share Posted June 8, 2023 Just now, Shearergol said: We're not signing Rice. May as well put that one to bed right away. Anything else you can reveal? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
relámpago blanco Posted June 8, 2023 Share Posted June 8, 2023 If you want to dine at the top table you can't shop at Heron foods. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SiLvOR Posted June 8, 2023 Share Posted June 8, 2023 1 minute ago, timeEd32 said: Convincing to leave London and come here over someone like Arsenal is a far bigger hurdle. This is where we need Keegan to go and spend a morning with Rice to help do the convincing. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt1892 Posted June 8, 2023 Share Posted June 8, 2023 Would it be against the rules for us to sign Gundogan on a 2 year contract and the Saudi lot sign him on a pre contract for 25/26 on another 2 year contract? 2 years with us for £100k a week and then another 2 years on a £1 million a week? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Duper Branko Strupar Posted June 8, 2023 Share Posted June 8, 2023 23 minutes ago, The Prophet said: Adams has generally been very good whenever I've watched him for Leeds or the US. He has a great engine and gets through loads of graft. Not the best with the ball at his feet, but he'd be a reasonably cheap option if we're looking at a number six type. 21 minutes ago, Rich said: Think Howe would properly love Adams, like. He's got a touch of Kanté about him and loads of room to get even better. I cant say I've seen him play much but if this is true sign him up, especially for that price. He doesn't need to pass it very far as we'll have decent passers close to him. Was surprised to see that Tiote had our highest pass total in a season reading the Trippier thread and Cheick wasnt exactly a fantastic passer. If Adams could do a similar job or better I'd be all for it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Duper Branko Strupar Posted June 8, 2023 Share Posted June 8, 2023 Wonder how much Bayern would want for Goretzka if Rice goes there. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt1892 Posted June 8, 2023 Share Posted June 8, 2023 The issue with Adam’s is that he doesn’t offer any real improvement on the shortcomings of Longstaff, which is surely what we should be looking for in a first team replacement in his position. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nufcnick Posted June 8, 2023 Share Posted June 8, 2023 (edited) 7 minutes ago, Matt1892 said: Would it be against the rules for us to sign Gundogan on a 2 year contract and the Saudi lot sign him on a pre contract for 25/26 on another 2 year contract? 2 years with us for £100k a week and then another 2 years on a £1 million a week? Very very against the rules, and that’s the exact thing the PL will be looking for now that PIF own the 4 main Saudi clubs, inflated transfers from Newcastle to one of the 4 clubs and suspicions loans of high value players to us from 1 of the 4 clubs Edited June 8, 2023 by nufcnick Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PauloGeordio Posted June 8, 2023 Share Posted June 8, 2023 5 minutes ago, Matt1892 said: The issue with Adam’s is that he doesn’t offer any real improvement on the shortcomings of Longstaff, which is surely what we should be looking for in a first team replacement in his position. Some of it is about squad depth, so a like for like of Longy is no bad thing for the squad! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rebelrouser Posted June 8, 2023 Share Posted June 8, 2023 Mac Allister salary supposed to be fairly reasonable £150,000 week at Liverpool (Sport Bible). I would be extremely happy to have signed him for £35M and £150,000 a week. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
relámpago blanco Posted June 8, 2023 Share Posted June 8, 2023 9 minutes ago, Super Duper Branko Strupar said: Wonder how much Bayern would want for Goretzka if Rice goes there. Bayern won't spend 120m on a player Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erikse Posted June 8, 2023 Share Posted June 8, 2023 17 hours ago, JonBez comesock said: I like him… but Gnoto lot Maybe you were just joking, but he has 10 caps for Italy at the age of 19.. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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