Whitley mag Posted August 28, 2022 Share Posted August 28, 2022 For the real football geeks on here how does Alvarez compare in ability to Haidara and this Kone who we’re linked with ? I’d never heard of him which means nowt, but read that Van Basten once said he was to slow. From brief YouTube footage seems to get his foot in and has a decent dig on him, but wouldn’t say I was blown away in comparison to clips of the other 2 I’ve seen. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ikon Posted August 28, 2022 Share Posted August 28, 2022 Says that we have bid 55m for him tonight. Not sure if reliable but has 40k followers. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack27 Posted August 28, 2022 Share Posted August 28, 2022 1 minute ago, Ikon said: Says that we have bid 55m for him tonight. Not sure if reliable but has 40k followers. I’m ready to believe Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SUPERTOON Posted August 28, 2022 Share Posted August 28, 2022 1 minute ago, Ikon said: Says that we have bid 55m for him tonight. Not sure if reliable but has 40k followers. Never seen him play, but I hope we have Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carlito Posted August 28, 2022 Share Posted August 28, 2022 3 minutes ago, Ikon said: Says that we have bid 55m for him tonight. Not sure if reliable but has 40k followers. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SUPERTOON Posted August 28, 2022 Share Posted August 28, 2022 Can’t see it being true mind, wouldn’t mind throwing that money at Maddison. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mansour Posted August 28, 2022 Share Posted August 28, 2022 23 minutes ago, Whitley mag said: For the real football geeks on here how does Alvarez compare in ability to Haidara and this Kone who we’re linked with ? I’d never heard of him which means nowt, but read that Van Basten once said he was to slow. From brief YouTube footage seems to get his foot in and has a decent dig on him, but wouldn’t say I was blown away in comparison to clips of the other 2 I’ve seen. You can clearly tell that he used to be a centre back from watching him briefly. Below average ball control and distribution. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lazarus Posted August 28, 2022 Share Posted August 28, 2022 So where does he fit in? He sits deep and allows Joelinton and Bruno to push up i assume? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shak Posted August 28, 2022 Share Posted August 28, 2022 3 hours ago, cubaricho said: Okay HTT 😉 It would be an honour to see myself in his shirt. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest HTT II Posted August 28, 2022 Share Posted August 28, 2022 (edited) 5 minutes ago, Shak said: It would be an honour to see myself in his shit. Dorty filth! Edited August 28, 2022 by HTT II Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitley mag Posted August 28, 2022 Share Posted August 28, 2022 15 minutes ago, Mansour said: You can clearly tell that he used to be a centre back from watching him briefly. Below average ball control and distribution. Doesn’t sound great for the money being bandied about. However, they’ve obviously seen something in him to think he’ll strengthen the midfield. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mansour Posted August 28, 2022 Share Posted August 28, 2022 Certainly, that is if we are actually interested in him. Time will tell. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikky Posted August 28, 2022 Share Posted August 28, 2022 1 hour ago, Whitley mag said: For the real football geeks on here how does Alvarez compare in ability to Haidara and this Kone who we’re linked with ? I’d never heard of him which means nowt, but read that Van Basten once said he was to slow. From brief YouTube footage seems to get his foot in and has a decent dig on him, but wouldn’t say I was blown away in comparison to clips of the other 2 I’ve seen. Alvarez is your typical defensive midfielder - literally sits in front of the back 4 - really neat with his passes Haidara is more athletic - more of a box to box - good on the ball The one that impresses me the most is Kone - big, athletic, skilful and his passing is a lot quicker - prefer my defensive midfielder to pass the ball quicker which he does - plus at 20 he’s amazing Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
HaydnNUFC Posted August 28, 2022 Share Posted August 28, 2022 44 minutes ago, Lazarus said: So where does he fit in? He sits deep and allows Joelinton and Bruno to push up i assume? Exactly that. Allows Bruno to operate in oppositions halves more often and provides a good passing range on top of defensive cover. Good in the air too. Would be absolutely delighted with him and I'd probably implode if we got Pulisic on loan on top of Alvarez. Likewise if we got Maddison instead of Alvarez but I just can't see Leicester selling. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
toontownman Posted August 28, 2022 Share Posted August 28, 2022 Just now, HaydnNUFC said: Exactly that. Allows Bruno to operate in oppositions halves more often and provides a good passing range on top of defensive cover. Good in the air too. Would be absolutely delighted with him and I'd probably implode if we got Pulisic on loan on top of Alvarez. Likewise if we got Maddison instead of Alvarez but I just can't see Leicester selling. Unless we are really paying over the odds and Ajax can't refuse I don't see why they sell. They are pocketing 80m for Antony. If they don't want to lose him then it's a non starter. We won't however likely be coming in for the first time fresh with Alvarez, if it's true. We will have been talking to club and player for a while. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mazzy Posted August 28, 2022 Share Posted August 28, 2022 I imagine the Antony deal puts a stop to anymore outgoings at Ajax. Unless ofcourse we really are offering something outrageously over what they think Alvarez is worth. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shadow Puppets Posted August 28, 2022 Share Posted August 28, 2022 Seems a lot like agent talk this Alvarez one. No decent sources reporting it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Duper Branko Strupar Posted August 28, 2022 Share Posted August 28, 2022 10 hours ago, joeyt said: Sander Berge would be a good option I reckon Jeez why dont you just marry him Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Memphis Posted August 28, 2022 Share Posted August 28, 2022 It's fun to speculate but at the end of the day it's most likely that any deal or deals will emerge, mostly fully formed, out of nowhere. Just like the Isak deal did. Had been in the works for a while and then was rekindled in 48 hours without any media reporting. Pretty exciting, honestly. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Jinx Posted August 28, 2022 Share Posted August 28, 2022 1 hour ago, HaydnNUFC said: Exactly that. Allows Bruno to operate in oppositions halves more often and provides a good passing range on top of defensive cover. Good in the air too. Would be absolutely delighted with him and I'd probably implode if we got Pulisic on loan on top of Alvarez. Likewise if we got Maddison instead of Alvarez but I just can't see Leicester selling. As good as Maddison is, you could have him in the side today instead of Longstaff or Willock and the result of the game may not have been any different. Alvarez makes us stronger though, their goal probably doesn’t happen and we just have more overall control. It unleashes Joelinton who might have less of the dirty work to do and get more into the link up play. Bruno we know can do it all but he also doesn’t have to quite so much of the dirty work so way more structure and control in being creative. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
madras Posted August 29, 2022 Share Posted August 29, 2022 24 minutes ago, Dr Jinx said: As good as Maddison is, you could have him in the side today instead of Longstaff or Willock and the result of the game may not have been any different. Alvarez makes us stronger though, their goal probably doesn’t happen and we just have more overall control. It unleashes Joelinton who might have less of the dirty work to do and get more into the link up play. Bruno we know can do it all but he also doesn’t have to quite so much of the dirty work so way more structure and control in being creative. Maddison instead of Willock or Longstaff probably makes no difference but Alvarez playing probably stops their goal ? What's this based on ? Any way, as much as a few of you want a designated DM to allow Bruno to go further forward, I think Brunos most important role for us is that transition from defence forward, they can play it to him and we don't panic on losing it and he finds our players, often in great positions. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Jinx Posted August 29, 2022 Share Posted August 29, 2022 4 minutes ago, madras said: Maddison instead of Willock or Longstaff probably makes no difference but Alvarez playing probably stops their goal ? What's this based on ? Any way, as much as a few of you want a designated DM to allow Bruno to go further forward, I think Brunos most important role for us is that transition from defence forward, they can play it to him and we don't panic on losing it and he finds our players, often in great positions. Well Willock didn’t close down properly and started from bad positioning to begin with, so there’s that. An excellent DM will have snuffed out that chance much earlier. The few games we’ve played this season so far have made mention to missing Shelvey, well Alvarez is a massive upgrade on Shelvey, he does all of it and a lot better too. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pata Posted August 29, 2022 Share Posted August 29, 2022 How would you even know if Alvarez was on the same spot as Willock? Pointless speculation and Willock was unlucky it didn't hit him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
madras Posted August 29, 2022 Share Posted August 29, 2022 6 minutes ago, Dr Jinx said: Well Willock didn’t close down properly and started from bad positioning to begin with, so there’s that. An excellent DM will have snuffed out that chance much earlier. The few games we’ve played this season so far have made mention to missing Shelvey, well Alvarez is a massive upgrade on Shelvey, he does all of it and a lot better too. Willock didn't close down so Alvarez would have been there to do it ? Righto. As for Shelvey some have made that point, I've disagreed, Shelvey is Brunos back up. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oregon_Geordie Posted August 29, 2022 Share Posted August 29, 2022 43 minutes ago, Pata said: How would you even know if Alvarez was on the same spot as Willock? Pointless speculation and Willock was unlucky it didn't hit him. Think Willock is a little powder puff in the challenge, generally. Trippier gave him a bollocking later on in the game for pulling out of a 50/50 that nearly cost us. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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