joeyt Posted May 10, 2023 Share Posted May 10, 2023 1 minute ago, Skeletor said: Are we just writing Gordon off completely now? He's 22 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBrownBottle Posted May 10, 2023 Share Posted May 10, 2023 5 minutes ago, The Prophet said: They're still the only team to be relegated with 40 points aren't they? I think they might have went down with the highest points tally for a 38-game season - but I'm sure the mackems went down with 40 points in a season. There probably were others - though relegation with 40 points is a rarity Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBrownBottle Posted May 10, 2023 Share Posted May 10, 2023 9 minutes ago, The Prophet said: They're still the only team to be relegated with 40 points aren't they? Did a quick check - PL-era only: West Ham were the last team to go down with 40+ points - 42 points in 02/03 - which is also a record for a PL 38 game season The mackems (96-97) and Bolton (97-98) both went down with 40 points in 38 game seasons. The record points tally (PL only) for relegation is 49 - Palace in 92/93 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Conjo Posted May 10, 2023 Share Posted May 10, 2023 22 minutes ago, The Prophet said: You could arguably compare this Leicester side to the West Ham side that went down in 02-03, with players like Glen Johnson, Michael Carrick, Joe Cole, Jermain Defoe and Freddie Kanoute in the ranks. I think that's a bit of a stretch. Johnson, Carrick, Cole & Defoe were much younger than the Leicester players. The Leicester players are supposed to be at the peak of their career now. Hardly a player under 25 in their starting line-ups with exception of Daka & regen guy being 24 and Luke Thomas 21. Johnson was 19, Carrick was 23, Cole was 22, Defoe was 22 respectively when they left West Ham. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aiston Posted May 10, 2023 Share Posted May 10, 2023 No rumour of it....yet... But I'd jump at the chance for Busquets for a couple of years, if he didn't want crazy money. Shit...he'd be better than Rice if it was possible and not just full dreamland Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
r0cafella Posted May 10, 2023 Share Posted May 10, 2023 Just now, Aiston said: No rumour of it....yet... But I'd jump at the chance for Busquets for a couple of years, if he didn't want crazy money. Shit...he'd be better than Rice if it was possible and not just full dreamland He’s slower than one legged Bruno, wouldn’t suit our style at all. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gbandit Posted May 10, 2023 Share Posted May 10, 2023 Love Busquets, despite him being one of the OG Shithouse all-timers. His time at the top is gone now though. He could play in Serie A but the PL would be beyond him now I think Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NWMag Posted May 10, 2023 Share Posted May 10, 2023 Leicester have had no PL keeper all season after not replacing Kasper and their defence is awful, not sure how that is Maddison’s fault. For Maddison to put in the numbers he has this season is that team tells you what quality he has. also all this talk of ‘i don’t think he can press’ is nonsense, you can only judge him off what you see but if that’s not Leicesters style of play then obviously you won’t have seen him do it before. I’m sure he’s capable. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manxst Posted May 10, 2023 Share Posted May 10, 2023 3 minutes ago, gbandit said: Love Busquets, despite him being one of the OG Shithouse all-timers. His time at the top is gone now though. He could play in Serie A but the PL would be beyond him now I think Doubt Serie A could/would afford him. Saudi or MLS awaits I reckon. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kimbo Posted May 10, 2023 Share Posted May 10, 2023 29 minutes ago, joeyt said: Are we just writing Gordon off completely now? He's 22 To be fair, you couldn’t find anyone on here that actually rated him before we signed him. He’s got a lot to prove. This isn’t likely at all but ideally I would loan him out next season, I just don’t think he’s ready for us and sitting on the bench won’t help either. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gbandit Posted May 10, 2023 Share Posted May 10, 2023 Think that’s a fairly wild take like. He was the best player for Everton in the previous season and a big part of keeping them up. He’s very versatile, has pace and can strike well off both feet. Technically, I’d have preferred a much better dribbler but I think he’s definitely ready. I also think he’s a perfect player for Howe to shape. Think we’ll really start to see his quality next season though Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kanji Posted May 10, 2023 Share Posted May 10, 2023 (edited) A front 3 of Maddison, Isak and Diaby is an upgrade on our current one by far. Maddison offers deliveries and creativity and goal scoring from wide or when drifting about the pitch, Diaby can carry from deep like Maxi but can also play the wide forward role better with runs in behind. Which if Maxi could do would be unplayable. Then you either sign a 6 or another 8 and you add to the depth / upgrade the midfield. Edited May 10, 2023 by Kanji Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
r0cafella Posted May 10, 2023 Share Posted May 10, 2023 21 minutes ago, Kimbo said: To be fair, you couldn’t find anyone on here that actually rated him before we signed him. He’s got a lot to prove. This isn’t likely at all but ideally I would loan him out next season, I just don’t think he’s ready for us and sitting on the bench won’t help either. We can’t be loaning out a 40m signing. I understand the sentiment but the club clearly have plans for him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
vexred Posted May 10, 2023 Share Posted May 10, 2023 39 minutes ago, Kimbo said: To be fair, you couldn’t find anyone on here that actually rated him before we signed him. He’s got a lot to prove. This isn’t likely at all but ideally I would loan him out next season, I just don’t think he’s ready for us and sitting on the bench won’t help either. He's going to get plenty of game time. We're going to have 2 games a week for most of next season. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted May 10, 2023 Share Posted May 10, 2023 (edited) 40 minutes ago, gbandit said: Think that’s a fairly wild take like. He was the best player for Everton in the previous season and a big part of keeping them up. He’s very versatile, has pace and can strike well off both feet. Technically, I’d have preferred a much better dribbler but I think he’s definitely ready. I also think he’s a perfect player for Howe to shape. Think we’ll really start to see his quality next season though No he wasn't. 46 minutes ago, Kimbo said: To be fair, you couldn’t find anyone on here that actually rated him before we signed him. He’s got a lot to prove. This isn’t likely at all but ideally I would loan him out next season, I just don’t think he’s ready for us and sitting on the bench won’t help either. I actually agree with this. He needs experience and playing time. And we need to win football matches. Edited May 10, 2023 by The College Dropout Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gbandit Posted May 10, 2023 Share Posted May 10, 2023 @The College Dropoutwho was better in 21/22? Iwobi? That’s the only other person who I can think of. I didn’t watch all of their games but to act like he wasn’t one of their star players that season at the age of 20, is just ignoring how it was in my opinion. He mostly played 90 mins of football which is unusual for a 20 year old in a relegation-threatened side. He scored four, got two assists. Those aren’t huge numbers but in that side they were Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
madras Posted May 10, 2023 Share Posted May 10, 2023 14 minutes ago, vexred said: He's going to get plenty of game time. We're going to have 2 games a week for most of next season. And the way Eddie uses subs to keep up intensity (See Murphy playing at least a part in every game), he'll get plenty of game time. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SUPERTOON Posted May 10, 2023 Share Posted May 10, 2023 7 minutes ago, gbandit said: @The College Dropoutwho was better in 21/22? Iwobi? That’s the only other person who I can think of. I didn’t watch all of their games but to act like he wasn’t one of their star players that season at the age of 20, is just ignoring how it was in my opinion. He mostly played 90 mins of football which is unusual for a 20 year old in a relegation-threatened side. He scored four, got two assists. Those aren’t huge numbers but in that side they were Richarlison Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Prophet Posted May 10, 2023 Share Posted May 10, 2023 Richarlison and Gordon were by far Everton's best players last season, with the latter winning fans player of the year. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted May 10, 2023 Share Posted May 10, 2023 6 minutes ago, gbandit said: @The College Dropoutwho was better in 21/22? Iwobi? That’s the only other person who I can think of. I didn’t watch all of their games but to act like he wasn’t one of their star players that season at the age of 20, is just ignoring how it was in my opinion. He mostly played 90 mins of football which is unusual for a 20 year old in a relegation-threatened side. He scored four, got two assists. Those aren’t huge numbers but in that side they were The one with 10 goals and 5 assists in the PL that season. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gbandit Posted May 10, 2023 Share Posted May 10, 2023 1 minute ago, SUPERTOON said: Richarlison Fair point, I’d completely forgotten about Richarlison. He was their best player @The College Dropout but I still think Gordon proved a lot with his performances as a 20 year old in that side Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted May 10, 2023 Share Posted May 10, 2023 (edited) I'll say this about Gordon. In his entire professional career he has 7 goals. He has more yellow cards than goals and assists combined. He hasn't proven very much in his short career. Edited May 10, 2023 by The College Dropout Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skeletor Posted May 10, 2023 Share Posted May 10, 2023 His quality is one thing. I don't believe he has great quality but the Howe improvement factor could still work in his favour. What does bother me though is that I thought we were getting an annoying little prick (to the other team) on this team who had real drive to win like Bellamy used to. He's played like he's afraid of his own shadow so far. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted May 10, 2023 Share Posted May 10, 2023 1 minute ago, Skeletor said: His quality is one thing. I don't believe he has great quality but the Howe improvement factor could still work in his favour. What does bother me though is that I thought we were getting an annoying little prick (to the other team) on this team who had real drive to win like Bellamy used to. He's played like he's afraid of his own shadow so far. This is why the loan shout isn't as bad as it seems. He's never had a decent run in a functional team where he has scored and contributed regularly. He needs a Milner at Villa type season but we actually keep him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jackflap Posted May 10, 2023 Share Posted May 10, 2023 2 hours ago, Ikon said: 40-45? He talked about selling ASM and adding 10m unless I misunderstood. We won’t get that much for ASM at this moment imo. (Only because of fitness) I wouldn't agree with selling Maxi for less than 30m, probably looking at a 25+5 add ons given his perennial fitness issues. Wouldn't pay more than 40 for Barnes. And not replying to your post specifically but it's worth noting that Leicester have scored the same amount of goals as Man Utd, if they go down it won't be because of their attacking players Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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