cubaricho Posted May 15, 2023 Share Posted May 15, 2023 (edited) Also has to be said that when we’re this close on a will they won’t they be in the CL, that any good agent won’t let their player sign for a club before they find out what competition(s) they’d be in. The £/wk asking price would be increased if the club is in the CL so why negotiate right now when they could potentially get more. It’s not entirely in our hands in those cases. Edited May 15, 2023 by cubaricho Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitley mag Posted May 15, 2023 Share Posted May 15, 2023 Seems a lot of wedge for Szoboszlai but I’d imagine Maddison would be around the 60 million mark. He’s younger and looks much more tailored to the way we play, wouldn’t be disappointed with Maddison but feel this lad though riskier might also have more upside long term. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
joeyt Posted May 15, 2023 Share Posted May 15, 2023 I've been aimlessly checking nufc.com's rumours page on and off for the last 2 decades https://www.nufc.com/rumours/rumours.html I never thought I'd ever see the day that this would appear on our list of linked names Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
timeEd32 Posted May 15, 2023 Share Posted May 15, 2023 48 minutes ago, STM said: I find the whole "depends if we get in the CL" thing complete bollocks. We signed Isak when finished 11th and Bruno when we were looking like going down. It might mean we sign fewer players but we were interested in Maddison etc in the previous summer. I don't think we had any intention of moving for players prior to the season finishing anyway but I'd bet we have a list of targets ready to go. It's quite obviously not bollocks. Of course we have a list of targets - whether Champions League would just change the quantity of players we bring in or alter who is on it we can't be sure of. But more important than the budget is the category of player who just won't consider a club that isn't in the CL (sounds like Szoboszlai may be in that category for one). And, as Edwards says (can't believe I'm referencing that prick again), every decision is connected so while Maddison may be on our list either way it could determine whether he's 1st or 3rd choice. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Krabbe2 Posted May 15, 2023 Share Posted May 15, 2023 The value of Maddison should drop to £20m. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sempiternal Posted May 15, 2023 Share Posted May 15, 2023 Long lists to shortlists sure Luke Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
black_n_white Posted May 15, 2023 Share Posted May 15, 2023 54 minutes ago, Krabbe2 said: The value of Maddison should drop to £20m. If they drop he’ll go for no more than £30m, wonder if he’ll have a release clause? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barnes23 Posted May 15, 2023 Share Posted May 15, 2023 Kieran Tierney "expected to move to Newcastle United" according to Gary Jacob in The Times. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Krabbe2 Posted May 15, 2023 Share Posted May 15, 2023 7 minutes ago, Barnes23 said: Kieran Tierney "expected to move to Newcastle United" according to Gary Jacob in The Times. As long as it means Burn out of that position then yes please. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
worthy Posted May 15, 2023 Share Posted May 15, 2023 36 minutes ago, Krabbe2 said: As long as it means Burn out of that position then yes please. Considering Tierney’s knees blow up all the time, it wont be long until he is back in that position Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PauloGeordio Posted May 16, 2023 Share Posted May 16, 2023 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Solitude20 Posted May 16, 2023 Share Posted May 16, 2023 4 hours ago, PauloGeordio said: He doesn’t look impressed. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeordieDazzler Posted May 16, 2023 Share Posted May 16, 2023 4 hours ago, PauloGeordio said: Jota Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonBez comesock Posted May 16, 2023 Share Posted May 16, 2023 12 hours ago, STM said: Well yes, but we are clearly after a certain level of player anyway. I don't see Europa League curtailing that by a great amount and our targets won't change. Unless the player we want to sign wants champions league football Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
STM Posted May 16, 2023 Share Posted May 16, 2023 6 minutes ago, JonBez comesock said: Unless the player we want to sign wants champions league football If us and Liverpool want Maddison, for arguement sake, and we have CL football, do you seriously think he's choosing us over Liverpool? Funny that "CL football" arguement only ever works against us. Even if its Chelsea we might not be able to compete with wages. Much more comes into it than CL football. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SUPERTOON Posted May 16, 2023 Share Posted May 16, 2023 Just now, STM said: If us and Liverpool want Maddison, for arguement sake, and we have CL football, do you seriously think he's choosing us over Liverpool? Funny that "CL football" arguement only ever works against us. Even if its Chelsea we might not be able to compete with wages. Much more comes into it than CL football. It works against us currently because we haven’t had it for years whereas the established sides are in it season after season. It’s going to take a few years of consistently qualifying for players to even consider us in the same breath as Liverpool and Chelsea. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeordieDazzler Posted May 16, 2023 Share Posted May 16, 2023 Whilst I think CL football opens a few extra doors - you see teams like Villa etc consistently linked with some really big names. The Prem is so cash rich at the moment from top to bottom league position matters much less to the the players and selling club. Isak and Botman choosing us at the start of the season when our ambitions then were to try and finish 7th. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yorkie Posted May 16, 2023 Share Posted May 16, 2023 6 hours ago, PauloGeordio said: He isn't a scout so, unless there's something I'm missing, it's easy to put two and two together and get negotiating for Maddison. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sushimonster85 Posted May 16, 2023 Share Posted May 16, 2023 6 minutes ago, Yorkie said: He isn't a scout so, unless there's something I'm missing, it's easy to put two and two together and get negotiating for Maddison. Aye, though I think realistically if that was the case he'd be trying to keep a low profile. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Schecter Posted May 16, 2023 Share Posted May 16, 2023 He went to watch Botman for the u21s before we signed him. Not sure he just might like to have a final look before he approves going for a player. Just guessing but I imagine since he's basically the guy that brings everything together he likes to have some input if it's a hefty chunk of change we're parting with. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sushimonster85 Posted May 16, 2023 Share Posted May 16, 2023 1 minute ago, Schecter said: He went to watch Botman for the u21s before we signed him. Not sure he just might like to have a final look before he approves going for a player. Just guessing but I imagine since he's basically the guy that brings everything together he likes to have some input if it's a hefty chunk of change we're parting with. Well that's the Maddison/Barnes moves off then after that display. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skeletor Posted May 16, 2023 Share Posted May 16, 2023 7 hours ago, PauloGeordio said: Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gaztoon Posted May 16, 2023 Share Posted May 16, 2023 Mane leaving Bayern . Now that would be a signing Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SUPERTOON Posted May 16, 2023 Share Posted May 16, 2023 3 minutes ago, Gaztoon said: Mane leaving Bayern . Now that would be a signing They also don’t want Cancelo, he would be an even better signing. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gaztoon Posted May 16, 2023 Share Posted May 16, 2023 Just now, SUPERTOON said: They also don’t want Cancelo, he would be an even better signing. Absolutely. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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