madras Posted May 20, 2023 Share Posted May 20, 2023 1 minute ago, r0cafella said: As someone who doesn’t watch the German league, can anyone explain why Leipzig have all of these highly rated players but are miles off winning the league? Think Brighton. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PauloGeordio Posted May 20, 2023 Share Posted May 20, 2023 14 minutes ago, STM said: After Monday night (touch wood), this shit is going into over drive. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
80 Posted May 20, 2023 Share Posted May 20, 2023 56 minutes ago, STM said: Kompany has been at our last two matches... scouting someone? Trying to see someone like Targett? Anderson loan? (we might need him for home grown quota),Lascelles and Murphy were injured so surely can't be them? It was reported he was just generally watching games but seems suss to me... Replacing Howe. Saudis want a bit more stardust in their management to help with marketing. More seriously... I do think there could well be a surprise departure this summer. Probably among people who are 1) less than critical in terms of off field leadership, 2) whose value and profile is only likely to go down from here onwards, and 3) play in positions we're looking to adjust. I'm speaking aside from obvious possibilities like ASM. In terms of who fits that profile that Burnley might bother to come and watch for two games in a row..... Schar? Almiron? ...Wilson? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Solitude20 Posted May 20, 2023 Share Posted May 20, 2023 27 minutes ago, Manxst said: 70m euros release clause apparently. £61m. So another Isak. If he turns out as well as Isak did, that £61m isn’t much. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
STM Posted May 20, 2023 Share Posted May 20, 2023 It's a fair question. What would you do if a 30m bid came in for Wilson, 25m for Miggy, 25m for Schar. I know we don't need to sell players, nor do I want to.... I would like to see the debate opened up. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Theregulars Posted May 20, 2023 Share Posted May 20, 2023 Ideally I don't want any of our key contributors from this year sold - they all deserve a chance to savour Europe and I want to see them given it. Think how much so many of them have improved - what's to say that exposure to (hopefully) elite level Euro football won't give them the platform to improve further? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
r0cafella Posted May 20, 2023 Share Posted May 20, 2023 3 minutes ago, STM said: It's a fair question. What would you do if a 30m bid came in for Wilson, 25m for Miggy, 25m for Schar. I know we don't need to sell players, nor do I want to.... I would like to see the debate opened up. It’s an interesting question, the bigger issue is these days those fees aren’t much although all of those players are fully a mortised so great for the old FFP. I’m certain Cal would have no shortage of takers. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PauloGeordio Posted May 20, 2023 Share Posted May 20, 2023 46 minutes ago, Smal said: I'm in Yup! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
midds Posted May 20, 2023 Share Posted May 20, 2023 Does the 'Bundesliga attacking stats multiplier' still apply with this lad btw? Honestly haven't seen too much of him, couple of Internationals an the odd RB game here and there. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
80 Posted May 20, 2023 Share Posted May 20, 2023 1 minute ago, STM said: It's a fair question. What would you do if a 30m bid came in for Wilson, 25m for Miggy, 25m for Schar. I know we don't need to sell players, nor do I want to.... I would like to see the debate opened up. I mean, the obvious answer is it depends on what we're planning on replacing them with. But I definitely think it's plausible that we want to go big on a CB and think/know that Lascelles would be a better bench leader than Schar, for example, and Schar going for £18m would help mitigate a £40m signing. And although his form has massively improved, Wilson still doesn't look totally happy in himself to me - maybe for off field reasons - so again, I don't think a move down south is out of the question. Not that I'm especially wanting any of these things to happen, by the way. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
80 Posted May 20, 2023 Share Posted May 20, 2023 11 minutes ago, Theregulars said: Ideally I don't want any of our key contributors from this year sold - they all deserve a chance to savour Europe and I want to see them given it. Think how much so many of them have improved - what's to say that exposure to (hopefully) elite level Euro football won't give them the platform to improve further? I do agree with you, but you'd have to expect that the players hitting/past 30 are the ones least likely to benefit from that. That's particularly the case in terms of market value, where one year's CL experience is one year closer to retirement. I don't like it, but we do need to think about it a bit to avoid doing a Leicester - having key squad members ageing out and leaving for nothing. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted May 20, 2023 Share Posted May 20, 2023 26 minutes ago, STM said: It's a fair question. What would you do if a 30m bid came in for Wilson, 25m for Miggy, 25m for Schar. I know we don't need to sell players, nor do I want to.... I would like to see the debate opened up. Fabian Schar is 31, I think £25m as a price tag might be pitched on the high side. But other than that, I think all of those players would want (and deserve) a shot at the CL if given the choice. It is a tough decision on our part though, as we might need to sell some of our players who can bring in big fees to pay for new signings. Given the choice though, I'd keep them all. We'll need a big squad next season, and they would get plenty of games. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keegans Export Posted May 20, 2023 Share Posted May 20, 2023 The other issue is that every first team player we sell means another one needs to be bought. We're already looking at 5-6 new faces through the door, the more you add the harder it is to build up the chemistry and cohesion we need to play Howe's system. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
splinter Posted May 20, 2023 Share Posted May 20, 2023 Would let wilson go st 31 and injury record Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Theregulars Posted May 20, 2023 Share Posted May 20, 2023 11 minutes ago, splinter said: Would let wilson go st 31 and injury record It wouldn’t be a sensible course of action to sell our top scorer and player who Howe has confirmed leads our press on the field. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Butcher Posted May 20, 2023 Share Posted May 20, 2023 Post-World Cup he looked finished, but now he's one of our most important players. Form is temporary and all that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nufc123 Posted May 20, 2023 Share Posted May 20, 2023 1 minute ago, The Butcher said: Post-World Cup he looked finished, but now he's one of our most important players. Form is temporary and all that. He was also ill for a long time Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted May 20, 2023 Share Posted May 20, 2023 6 minutes ago, Theregulars said: It wouldn’t be a sensible course of action to sell our top scorer and player who Howe has confirmed leads our press on the field. I can see the financial reasons for it, but do we really think Eddie would sell players who have got us into the CL unless they wanted to leave? I suppose there is the contract situation to sort out, that is the only reason I could see for Wilson leaving, otherwise pretty sure he'd want one crack at the CL in his career, and we could certainly use him over the next season. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Theregulars Posted May 20, 2023 Share Posted May 20, 2023 Personally I don’t see any plus to selling Wilson right now. He’s largely been great for us and fits perfectly into what we’re doing. Plus his face Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nufc123 Posted May 20, 2023 Share Posted May 20, 2023 Just now, Theregulars said: Personally I don’t see any plus to selling Wilson right now. He’s largely been great for us and fits perfectly into what we’re doing. Plus his face We have so many other positions to fill, and finding someone half as good will cost some. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest reefatoon Posted May 20, 2023 Share Posted May 20, 2023 1 minute ago, Theregulars said: Personally I don’t see any plus to selling Wilson right now. He’s largely been great for us and fits perfectly into what we’re doing. Plus his face Suppose I’d depends on who they would replace him with. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kimbo Posted May 20, 2023 Share Posted May 20, 2023 Wilson can still get good numbers for 2-3 years IMO as long as he's rotated and managed carefully. We're also very unlikely to find a better goalscorer without spending a fuck ton, and even then it would be no guarantee. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geordie Ahmed Posted May 20, 2023 Share Posted May 20, 2023 Letting Wilson go when he's in the form that he is right now is a mad suggestion I understand earlier when he was on that shocking run of form but clearly that was a bad patch and he's even spoken about that He's also very keen on playing in Europe, in particular the Champions League so he'll not be wanting to leave now Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nufc123 Posted May 20, 2023 Share Posted May 20, 2023 3 minutes ago, reefatoon said: Suppose I’d depends on who they would replace him with. Depends on the budget. We have midfielders linked in the 40-60m region. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KetsbaiaIsBald Posted May 20, 2023 Share Posted May 20, 2023 (edited) 1 hour ago, STM said: It's a fair question. What would you do if a 30m bid came in for Wilson, 25m for Miggy, 25m for Schar. I know we don't need to sell players, nor do I want to.... I would like to see the debate opened up. Ideally I’d not sell a single one of our top starting line up plus the next couple on the bench. We should be buying players that are better and they become the squad ones. For example If you sell Miggy and we are in Europe we need two players to replace him. One to start one for the squad. Edited May 20, 2023 by KetsbaiaIsBald Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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