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Just now, KennyUtd said:

I'll never understand how they'd do this knowing we'll be under massive pressure from Liverpool to sell Isak once they have the funds.  It makes no sense to me.

 

The thing that's not being taken into account is what the the people at the club think, specifically Howe and his team.

 

There's a chance they're thinking it's a massive opportunity to get top money for him and put that towards building the team up further, and they believe it will get us further along quicker, and they may not care where he goes either!

 

Assuming that is the case, and any Liverpool sale means that they will then be able to bid the amount the club is willing to accept, then you can see the thinking behind all of this.

 

Everyone is assuming inside the club they are looking at things like the fans do, where they will be devastated to lose Isak, and are dead against him going to Liverpool. 

 

That may not be the case!

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4 hours ago, ExiledGeordie said:


Yes my worry is he checks out after this season and goes to England citing “I’ve done all I can” 

 

If Eddie goes to England I'll just support England. :lol: 

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Just now, Barnes23 said:

I think Isak would reintegrate for this season if we hold firm on not selling him this summer. 

 

The only question that counts for me is whether Howe believes this is in the best interest of the morale of the squad. Everyone will know next summer he is going to be on his way. 

 

Cabaye did. He was fucking brilliant the 4 months before he finally left. Doubt we'd sell Isak in a January window the same way so if he can give us a year, another 30 goals, brilliant. 

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1 minute ago, AyeDubbleYoo said:

If Liverpool haven’t fired up the fax machine with a bid yet then it’s quite a weird situation. 

 

 

 

It was mentioned on Talksport yesterday that Eddie Howe has a good relationship with someone in the hierarchy at Liverpool ?? wherein they'd only put a bid in once we're open to discuss a possible transfer.

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25 minutes ago, duo said:

PIF buying Nunez would just sum up what a mess football is

 

So PIF bought us for £350m, surely if Liverpool take even more Saudi blood money in return for supplying their "sports washing league" with big names they're going to be getting close to a similar figure, after also selling Henderson and Firmino to them? (Henderson, by the way, going to join Mr Liverpool Stevie G who also couldn't get on the Saudi Gravy Wagon fucking fast enough).

 

Gonna be more blood money sloshing around on Merseyside than there is up here. 

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2 minutes ago, frankpingel said:

It was mentioned on Talksport yesterday that Eddie Howe has a good relationship with someone in the hierarchy at Liverpool ?? wherein they'd only put a bid in once we're open to discuss a possible transfer.

 

Their DOF Richard Hughes. They go way back to their Portsmouth days playing together, and both worked together at Bournemouth when Howe was there.

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3 minutes ago, KaKa said:

 

The thing that's not being taken into account is what the the people at the club think, specifically Howe and his team.

 

There's a chance they're thinking it's a massive opportunity to get top money for him and put that towards building the team up further, and they believe it will get us further along quicker, and they may not care where he goes either!

 

Assuming that is the case, and any Liverpool sale means that they will then be able to bid the amount the club is willing to accept, then you can see the thinking behind all of this.

 

Everyone is assuming inside the club they are looking at things like the fans do, where they will be devastated to lose Isak, and are dead against him going to Liverpool. 

 

That may not be the case!

 

It isn't top money though, he's a £200m player.

 

It's a cut price because the other top clubs either can't afford him or don't need a new first choice striker right now.

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6 minutes ago, KaKa said:

 

The thing that's not being taken into account is what the the people at the club think, specifically Howe and his team.

 

There's a chance they're thinking it's a massive opportunity to get top money for him and put that towards building the team up further, and they believe it will get us further along quicker, and they may not care where he goes either!

 

Assuming that is the case, and any Liverpool sale means that they will then be able to bid the amount the club is willing to accept, then you can see the thinking behind all of this.

 

Everyone is assuming inside the club they are looking at things like the fans do, where they will be devastated to lose Isak, and are dead against him going to Liverpool. 

 

That may not be the case!

It may not be but do they think they'll get him sold and get all the players we require in 4 weeks! Surely not. It's just mental. 

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1 minute ago, Jackie Broon said:

 

 

It isn't top money though, he's a £200m player.

 

It's a cut price because the other top clubs either can't afford him or don't need a new first choice striker right now.

 

No one will ever pay £200 million for him, and so if there's any desire at all to cash in on the clubs side, there's no point setting that sort of valuation.

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2 minutes ago, KennyUtd said:

It may not be but do they think they'll get him sold and get all the players we require in 4 weeks! Surely not. It's just mental. 

 

It would be mental if they've been sat around doing nothing all summer and haven't picked up the phone once to discuss the possibility of any deals yet. 

 

I doubt that's the case though, as that's just not how things work.

 

Having said that the longer it takes for any bids to come in for Isak the more likely it is he stays IMO.

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6 minutes ago, Jackie Broon said:

 

 

It isn't top money though, he's a £200m player.

 

It's a cut price because the other top clubs either can't afford him or don't need a new first choice striker right now.

He isn't a £200m player when considering his injury record / not consistantly performing at the top level.

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The next 2 weeks are going to be pivotal to next season. Craig Hope points out what a mess there is behind the scenes. So the lack of CEO and sporting director needs addressing.

 

I don't think keeping Isak is an option. Being hard on Liverpool is our only option. Getting the money we want for Isak (135+) and in a time frame that allows us to spend the fee well. Isak is a great player, but this is a real opportunity to use the Isak money to build a deep squad. Replacement striker, midfielder and RCB would all help playing 2 or 3 games a week. 

 

 

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8 minutes ago, KaKa said:

 

The thing that's not being taken into account is what the the people at the club think, specifically Howe and his team.

 

There's a chance they're thinking it's a massive opportunity to get top money for him and put that towards building the team up further, and they believe it will get us further along quicker, and they may not care where he goes either!

 

Assuming that is the case, and any Liverpool sale means that they will then be able to bid the amount the club is willing to accept, then you can see the thinking behind all of this.

 

Everyone is assuming inside the club they are looking at things like the fans do, where they will be devastated to lose Isak, and are dead against him going to Liverpool. 

 

That may not be the case!

Load of shite selling your best striker off the back of a champions league qualifying campaign, to a team who you aspire to catch up to and were 18? Points off last season  is an awful look no matter how you spin it. The eales comment last year of every player has a price may be true and player trading is part of it but you want to be the club selling when you want not having teams pick who they want to take off you.

 

Coupled with the fact a 120/130/140 or 150m influx doesn't allow any massive transformative change in the squad. We already need a striker even if Isak stays. That money would need to also go to isaks replacement and no Darwin 25ish league goals in 90 odd games is no where near good enough as any form of compensation. 

 

Only thing I agree on is the club won't have any fan emotion to this decision if he's going to be a sulking git all season and if he's never going to sign a  new deal a soon to be 26 year old with 3 years left is worth more than a soon to be 27 year old with 2 years left. 

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Just a reminder that if we sold him to Liverpool, they also signed our fucking replacement.

 

I've said that comparisons with Ashley are ridiculous previously, which they are, but my opinion of their football acumen will absolutely plummet if we sell to not just a rival, but a rival that bought our replacement. I doubt it would ever recover tbh.

 

 

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3 minutes ago, nufcjmc said:

Load of shite selling your best striker off the back of a champions league qualifying campaign, to a team who you aspire to catch up to and were 18? Points off last season  is an awful look no matter how you spin it. The eales comment last year of every player has a price may be true and player trading is part of it but you want to be the club selling when you want not having teams pick who they want to take off you.

 

Coupled with the fact a 120/130/140 or 150m influx doesn't allow any massive transformative change in the squad. We already need a striker even if Isak stays. That money would need to also go to isaks replacement and no Darwin 25ish league goals in 90 odd games is no where near good enough as any form of compensation. 

 

Only thing I agree on is the club won't have any fan emotion to this decision if he's going to be a sulking git all season and if he's never going to sign a  new deal a soon to be 26 year old with 3 years left is worth more than a soon to be 27 year old with 2 years left. 

 

Yes, but we cannot be certain of what they think internally at the club regarding all of this. And so we should be prepared for all outcomes.

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1 minute ago, Kid Icarus said:

Just a reminder that if we sold him to Liverpool, tgey also signed our fucking replacement.

 

I've said that comparisons with Ashley are ridiculous previously, which they are, but my opinion of their football acumen will absolutely plummet if we sell to not just a rival, but a rival that bought our replacement and I doubt it'll recover tbh.

 

 

 

 

Enough there to not deal with the fuckers nevermind the rest of the shit associated with LFC.

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1 minute ago, Ketsbaia said:

You think we'd sell for less than that?

 

They're definitely using public pressure to lower the price. But we don't need to.

I hope not, it would be ridiculous from us if we do. But Liverpool are not desperate and will be hoping Isak forces a move.

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