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53 minutes ago, gdm said:

The following is a tweet from April :rolleyes:

 

What a difference (just over) a year makes 

 

Its quotes like this that make me feel we're missing some major fallout behind the scenes.

 

Even at this time, everyone was gagging over him calling him better than Haaland. And this is coming off a season where we didn't look like gaining CL football. He would have known the big "big clubs" would be sniffing if he made it known he wanted to leave. He could have easily given  more diplomatic statements to leave the door open.

 

Something changed last summer. Whether it's the contract talks not coming to fruition, the changes at the top of the hierarchy, or lack of transfer "ambition," the relationship between player and club broke down.

 

You don't go from, "im here for the long term project", "I love it here", "this is my home" to going on strike the minute a team shows interest.

It's not like he was a nobody last season, and suddenly clubs are becoming interested that he never dreamed of. His trajectory was clearly to the very top if he wanted.

 

Or maybe im being naive, and footballers are just mercenaries who'll say whatever and jump at the first opportunity [emoji38]

 

But something feels missing from this story

 

 

 

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5 minutes ago, Palestoon said:

 

Its quotes like this that make me feel we're missing some major fallout behind the scenes.

 

Even at this time, everyone was gagging over him calling him better than Halland. And this is coming off a season where we didn't look like gaining CL football. He would have known the big "big clubs" would be sniffing if he made it known he wanted to leave. He could have easily given  more diplomatic statements to leave the door open.

 

Something changed last summer. Whether it's the contract talks not coming to fruition, the changes at the top of the hierarchy, or lack of transfer "ambition," the relationship between player and club broke down.

 

You don't go from, "im here for the long term project", "I love it here", "this is my home" to going on strike the minute a team shows interest.

It's not like he was a nobody last season, and suddenly clubs are becoming interested that he never dreamed of. His trajectory was clearly to the very top if he wanted.

 

Or maybe im being naive, and footballers are just mercenaries who'll say whatever and jump at the first opportunity [emoji38]

 

But something feels missing from this story

 

 

Just blame Mitchell, whenever someone leaves my work that guy gets blamed for every fuck up for months 

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25 minutes ago, Palestoon said:

 

Its quotes like this that make me feel we're missing some major fallout behind the scenes.

 

Even at this time, everyone was gagging over him calling him better than Haaland. And this is coming off a season where we didn't look like gaining CL football. He would have known the big "big clubs" would be sniffing if he made it known he wanted to leave. He could have easily given  more diplomatic statements to leave the door open.

 

Something changed last summer. Whether it's the contract talks not coming to fruition, the changes at the top of the hierarchy, or lack of transfer "ambition," the relationship between player and club broke down.

 

You don't go from, "im here for the long term project", "I love it here", "this is my home" to going on strike the minute a team shows interest.

It's not like he was a nobody last season, and suddenly clubs are becoming interested that he never dreamed of. His trajectory was clearly to the very top if he wanted.

 

Or maybe im being naive, and footballers are just mercenaries who'll say whatever and jump at the first opportunity [emoji38]

 

But something feels missing from this story

 

 

 

 


Mate. They lie.

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34 minutes ago, Palestoon said:

 

Its quotes like this that make me feel we're missing some major fallout behind the scenes.

 

Even at this time, everyone was gagging over him calling him better than Haaland. And this is coming off a season where we didn't look like gaining CL football. He would have known the big "big clubs" would be sniffing if he made it known he wanted to leave. He could have easily given  more diplomatic statements to leave the door open.

 

Something changed last summer. Whether it's the contract talks not coming to fruition, the changes at the top of the hierarchy, or lack of transfer "ambition," the relationship between player and club broke down.

 

You don't go from, "im here for the long term project", "I love it here", "this is my home" to going on strike the minute a team shows interest.

It's not like he was a nobody last season, and suddenly clubs are becoming interested that he never dreamed of. His trajectory was clearly to the very top if he wanted.

 

Or maybe im being naive, and footballers are just mercenaries who'll say whatever and jump at the first opportunity [emoji38]

 

But something feels missing from this story

 

 

 

 

What's missing is that Liverpool came flashing with a lot of money.

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1 hour ago, Palestoon said:

 

Its quotes like this that make me feel we're missing some major fallout behind the scenes.

 

Even at this time, everyone was gagging over him calling him better than Haaland. And this is coming off a season where we didn't look like gaining CL football. He would have known the big "big clubs" would be sniffing if he made it known he wanted to leave. He could have easily given  more diplomatic statements to leave the door open.

 

Something changed last summer. Whether it's the contract talks not coming to fruition, the changes at the top of the hierarchy, or lack of transfer "ambition," the relationship between player and club broke down.

 

You don't go from, "im here for the long term project", "I love it here", "this is my home" to going on strike the minute a team shows interest.

It's not like he was a nobody last season, and suddenly clubs are becoming interested that he never dreamed of. His trajectory was clearly to the very top if he wanted.

 

Or maybe im being naive, and footballers are just mercenaries who'll say whatever and jump at the first opportunity [emoji38]

 

But something feels missing from this story

 

 

 

 

I remember a comedian once having a bit about it not being admirable that you're faithful if you don't have opportunity to cheat. 

 

I don't remember even a whisper about leaving interest until recently. Even as recently as March he was happy to be here and challenge for titles. That said, if he feels the summer has shown our ceiling as it exists right now and his head has been turned by Liverpool so be it. 

 

I'd preach caution though. If he goes there for 120-150m, he's unlikely to go any higher unless it's facilitated by a bosman transfer. This is a bad summer to move if you're a striker. A lot of the big clubs have spent their money and the ones left who might want a new forward don't have any to spend. 

 

I don't think it's a viable option now, but had he waited 12 months, hit another 20 goal season, and a few in the Champions League, he could potentially have had his pick of clubs. Liverpool won the league last season, hats off to them. They also did it with a points total lower than all but one of the previous ten champions. A lot of things at the top are in flux right now. Man City may come roaring back, they may not, Arsenal may finally have the missing piece in Gyokores, they may not. He's joining a team that's added a marquee player in Wirtz and a high priced prospect in Ekitike. I won't for a minute make out like Isak isn't incredibly talented, but we also play to him a lot. He's the lynchpin. Can be be assured of that at Liverpool?

 

I would argue Liverpool's issues last year weren't goals scored, it was goals conceded and yet they've not signed a centre back. I'm not convinced we're staring at a period of dominance. 

 

 

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The thing I don’t understand with this, was as recently as end of June Alex was one of a number of players advising Elanga on joining us and singing our praises. It all seems out of character to what I’ve experienced from him. It still feels to me that it’s all agent driven.

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Sod him. No player is bigger than the club. Hes contracted for another few years yet. We dont have to accept anything from anyone, no matter how much Sky/Romano/Ornstein/Slot whinge. Shove him into tbe reserves for 6 months to a year and he'll be begging us to let him play. It might stuff us for.psr, but it seems we are anyway...people might argue that the scousers built a team from selling Coutinho, but its clear that isnt a viable method now.

 

We clearly cant get the ready made players we need, so have to gamble. We built a cl team on players the slimy six didnt want, so take a chance!

 

Isak now wasnt the player we bought

We had little competition for Bruno

Nobbdy would have predicted Joelintons transformation

No-one was looking at Hall or Livramento

The 6 werent exactly falling over themselves for Gordon till after a season here

Not a single team looked a Barnes, and he has been very effective

We took the crap with Tonali, but hes showing to be worth it.

 

All of these showed imagination and a degree of faith which has been sorely absent. Where that comes from i dont know

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19 minutes ago, Shadow Puppets said:

The thing I don’t understand with this, was as recently as end of June Alex was one of a number of players advising Elanga on joining us and singing our praises. It all seems out of character to what I’ve experienced from him. It still feels to me that it’s all agent driven.

 

Someone posted earlier about the stable of players his agent has, mostly low value run of the mill stuff.  Entirely possible he's pushing for this as it'd be a huge payday for him.

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Of course we still do not know what the true picture is but just over fifty years  ago this is what manager Joe Harvey had to say after striker Micky Burns refused to play for the reserves.

 

 

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1 minute ago, SUPERTOON said:

Anything new/interesting in that ?

Newcastle United will not allow Alexander Isak to leave unless they secure two new strikers this summer.

For all the talk around the Sweden international, who is currently training on his own at former club Real Sociedad, in the end it is likely to be cold, hard transfer market dynamics that dictate the next steps on Tyneside.

A realistic prospect? No-one at Newcastle is quite sure what happens next but the silence from the club about Isak’s decision to train with his own private conditioning staff in San Sebastien tells its own story.

While some fans have taken Isak’s return to Spain as a huge sleight – with some justification, it must be added – the club are keeping a clear path open for Isak to be reintegrated and are not about to criticise their player.

Sources suggest they knew of Isak’s whereabouts but further details are scant.

Newcastle’s wantaway striker Alexander Isak is training alone at former club Real Sociedad (Photo: PA)

It is unlikely to have been encouraged by Newcastle, put it that way, but there has been no talk of him going AWOL and Eddie Howe will not castigate him for it ahead of the game against Tottenham Hotspur at the weekend. 

A political tightrope is being walked that makes for difficult viewing for fans already disenchanted with Newcastle’s inability to capitalise on the momentum of last season but their approach makes a lot of sense.

Firstly because the club’s not-for-sale message is a genuine one, but also because if relations break down entirely, it could have a ruinous impact on their season.

As one Premier League recruitment source summed it up on Thursday: “This sort of thing happens all the time. 

“It is more pronounced here because it is playing out in public but nothing is irreparable and no footballer will refuse to play for his club after 1 September. 

“I think Newcastle have that in their mind here.”

The Magpies are pushing hard for a £30m deal for Brentford striker Yoane Wissa (Photo: AFP)

Newcastle remain interested in Brentford striker Yoane Wissa but, as revealed by The i Paper on Monday, the Bees are adamant that he won’t leave this summer unless a replacement can be secured.

Wissa is keen on Newcastle and wants to play Champions League football but the irony has not been lost on both clubs that they find themselves in an identical position in the final weeks of a difficult transfer window.

Isak is in such rarefied air that there is a vanishingly small pool of potential replacements. 

Newcastle have already missed out on Hugo Ekitike, who signed for Liverpool for £69m from Eintracht Frankfurt, and while they want RB Leipzig’s Benjamin Sesko, there is pessimism internally about that move, with Manchester United rivalling them for the forward.

There are also some reservations about the price tag, which is similar to Ekitike despite the belief that he needs more work, and whether he would need time to adjust to the demands of a Premier League season.

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There are other options – Chelsea’s Nicolas Jackson and Paris Saint-Germain’s Randal Kolo Muani are two that have been floated, while they may reverse their position of being lukewarm on Aston Villa’s Ollie Watkins – but all feel a bit too reactive for a club that had always intended to player trade from a position of strength.

Quite what the big plan is at Newcastle no-one is saying at the moment. 

Former Real Madrid head of global partnerships David Hopkinson is expected to be appointed as chief executive before the season starts and he has a daunting in-tray that should begin with a thorough review of what has gone wrong this summer.

Does all of this mean Isak will stay at Newcastle? The situation remains on a knife edge. 

If Liverpool make a bid close to the £150m the club want, that is a potential game-changer. 

But those at Anfield are playing a waiting game of their own – keen to jump on the opportunity of signing another elite talent while aware that the situation is far from straightforward. 

At least for the moment, the majority of the manoeuvering appears to be coming from Isak himself.

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5 minutes ago, Whitley mag said:

Newcastle United will not allow Alexander Isak to leave unless they secure two new strikers this summer.

For all the talk around the Sweden international, who is currently training on his own at former club Real Sociedad, in the end it is likely to be cold, hard transfer market dynamics that dictate the next steps on Tyneside.

A realistic prospect? No-one at Newcastle is quite sure what happens next but the silence from the club about Isak’s decision to train with his own private conditioning staff in San Sebastien tells its own story.

While some fans have taken Isak’s return to Spain as a huge sleight – with some justification, it must be added – the club are keeping a clear path open for Isak to be reintegrated and are not about to criticise their player.

Sources suggest they knew of Isak’s whereabouts but further details are scant.

Newcastle’s wantaway striker Alexander Isak is training alone at former club Real Sociedad (Photo: PA)

It is unlikely to have been encouraged by Newcastle, put it that way, but there has been no talk of him going AWOL and Eddie Howe will not castigate him for it ahead of the game against Tottenham Hotspur at the weekend. 

A political tightrope is being walked that makes for difficult viewing for fans already disenchanted with Newcastle’s inability to capitalise on the momentum of last season but their approach makes a lot of sense.

Firstly because the club’s not-for-sale message is a genuine one, but also because if relations break down entirely, it could have a ruinous impact on their season.

As one Premier League recruitment source summed it up on Thursday: “This sort of thing happens all the time. 

“It is more pronounced here because it is playing out in public but nothing is irreparable and no footballer will refuse to play for his club after 1 September. 

“I think Newcastle have that in their mind here.”

The Magpies are pushing hard for a £30m deal for Brentford striker Yoane Wissa (Photo: AFP)

Newcastle remain interested in Brentford striker Yoane Wissa but, as revealed by The i Paper on Monday, the Bees are adamant that he won’t leave this summer unless a replacement can be secured.

Wissa is keen on Newcastle and wants to play Champions League football but the irony has not been lost on both clubs that they find themselves in an identical position in the final weeks of a difficult transfer window.

Isak is in such rarefied air that there is a vanishingly small pool of potential replacements. 

Newcastle have already missed out on Hugo Ekitike, who signed for Liverpool for £69m from Eintracht Frankfurt, and while they want RB Leipzig’s Benjamin Sesko, there is pessimism internally about that move, with Manchester United rivalling them for the forward.

There are also some reservations about the price tag, which is similar to Ekitike despite the belief that he needs more work, and whether he would need time to adjust to the demands of a Premier League season.

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There are other options – Chelsea’s Nicolas Jackson and Paris Saint-Germain’s Randal Kolo Muani are two that have been floated, while they may reverse their position of being lukewarm on Aston Villa’s Ollie Watkins – but all feel a bit too reactive for a club that had always intended to player trade from a position of strength.

Quite what the big plan is at Newcastle no-one is saying at the moment. 

Former Real Madrid head of global partnerships David Hopkinson is expected to be appointed as chief executive before the season starts and he has a daunting in-tray that should begin with a thorough review of what has gone wrong this summer.

Does all of this mean Isak will stay at Newcastle? The situation remains on a knife edge. 

If Liverpool make a bid close to the £150m the club want, that is a potential game-changer. 

But those at Anfield are playing a waiting game of their own – keen to jump on the opportunity of signing another elite talent while aware that the situation is far from straightforward. 

At least for the moment, the majority of the manoeuvering appears to be coming from Isak himself.

 

He's not leaving then since we can't even sign one.

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Starting to think only reason Liverpool jumped on Etitike was in case Isak didn’t turn out possible. This way, they’ve got a striker and can pivot towards a LW signing, with Nunez remaining. 

 

If they lost Etitike to us, they would still be in same situation for Isak whilst needing an alternative option for ST AND a LW. 

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Just now, Sibierski said:

Starting to think only reason Liverpool jumped on Etitike was in case Isak didn’t turn out possible. This way, they’ve got a striker and can pivot towards a LW signing, with Nunez remaining. 

 

If they lost Etitike to us, they would still be in same situation for Isak whilst needing an alternative option for ST AND a LW. 

Starting to think?

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we have to set a deadline for Liverpool. either close the transfer before their Community shield match on the 10th of August or forget it. cant see how it benefits us to have this linger on and not knowing it will happen or not even after round 2 in PL.

will be quite a feisty feeling at St James Park in 2nd round Newcastle v Liverpool game lol on the 25th if August.

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