David Kelly Posted August 18, 2025 Share Posted August 18, 2025 1 hour ago, Adam P said: I dont think he will play for us again but for the club to maintain maximum leverage in the negotiations, the narrative has to remain that he can stay at the club. It’s why Eddie mentioned the chants at the end of the game, can’t complain but they don’t help. If there is no hypothetical pathway back, then the deal is more difficult for the club. The objective of those on his aside of the deal is to create a situation where there is no pathway back, hence why every single word on true topic from Eddie is clear that there can be. If we're still in the same place, rightly or wrongly, I think it's reasonable to assume there's going to be an outpouring of anger aimed at him at some point during the Liverpool game. Unless in the very unlikely event Eddie comes out and says specifically not to chant about him or it's held in until the end like at Villa, expecting nigh on 50,000 people to weigh up the negatives and be measured in the proverbial heat of the moment would be expecting too much I think. How that effects things in the background I have nee idea. Probably not do us any favours in terms of bringing him back in but it's ganna happen and chances are it will be loud and vociferous. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicken Dancer Posted August 18, 2025 Share Posted August 18, 2025 He won't leave and there'll be an apology post via the club soon I reckon. It's at the stage now, with two weeks left, where we actually can't afford to sell him because we have nobody else. I really like Wissa but talk of £50/60m is just silly. We still need a striker If he outright refuses to play for the season then more fool him. It's a short career and he has his first World Cup next summer, so there's 0% chance of him sitting a season because he didn't get his own way. Probably won't see him until after the international break though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keegans Export Posted August 18, 2025 Share Posted August 18, 2025 36 minutes ago, Pandamninator said: PSR is rolling three years. The 22/23 splurge (Isak, Botman, Gordon etc) are now not counted towards the calculations. Next seasons PSR calculations will also no longer include the bulk (if any) of the Tonali and Livramento fees, with Targetts alleged 100k a week salary gone as well. Combined with spending fuck all last year we had plenty of head room to do all that. I'm not sure that's true is it? The fee is amortised across the length of the contract so if Tonali was £50m for five years, that £10m/year (plus wages, bonus) is still going to be on the accounts each year until he either leaves or signs a new contract. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ToonAbroad Posted August 18, 2025 Share Posted August 18, 2025 Just now, Keegans Export said: I'm not sure that's true is it? The fee is amortised across the length of the contract so if Tonali was £50m for five years, that £10m/year (plus wages, bonus) is still going to be on the accounts each year until he either leaves or signs a new contract. Yeah its not the specific fees that drop off, rather the season's loss. This year we lose the minus £72.9m from 22-23, and next year we lose the minus £71.8m from 2023-24. So should be healthy for the next season or 2. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
80 Posted August 18, 2025 Share Posted August 18, 2025 36 minutes ago, Pandamninator said: PSR is rolling three years. The 22/23 splurge (Isak, Botman, Gordon etc) are now not counted towards the calculations. Next seasons PSR calculations will also no longer include the bulk (if any) of the Tonali and Livramento fees, with Targetts alleged 100k a week salary gone as well. Combined with spending fuck all last year we had plenty of head room to do all that. That's not quite right, the 22/23 buys (etc.) still count towards our PSR spend in the same size chunks as when we first bought the players. E.g. Isak = £60m divided by 6 years = £10m this year, same as it was in 22/23. It'll be £10m next year and the year after too, if he's still here. The only thing that really changes that is new contracts, which re-divide outstanding amount of money by the number of years on the new contract (so our payments have gone down on Gordon because renewed his deal, but Isak and Botman will remain the same at this time). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted August 18, 2025 Share Posted August 18, 2025 9 minutes ago, Chicken Dancer said: He won't leave and there'll be an apology post via the club soon I reckon. It's at the stage now, with two weeks left, where we actually can't afford to sell him because we have nobody else. I really like Wissa but talk of £50/60m is just silly. We still need a striker If he outright refuses to play for the season then more fool him. It's a short career and he has his first World Cup next summer, so there's 0% chance of him sitting a season because he didn't get his own way. Probably won't see him until after the international break though. This is why the Wilson replacement should have been done already. That way we could park this nonsense until the window closes. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Optimistic Nut Posted August 18, 2025 Share Posted August 18, 2025 Even Tim Vine knows. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barnes23 Posted August 18, 2025 Share Posted August 18, 2025 Edwards is holding the line for us out there. Always said he was a fine journalist Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lush Vlad Posted August 18, 2025 Share Posted August 18, 2025 3 minutes ago, Barnes23 said: Edwards is holding the line for us out there. Always said he was a fine journalist He was on the Football Daily, the BBC Five Live podcast getting stuck into Isak last night. The incredibly annoying presenter, who always tries and fails at being funny. Seemed to be leaning into the broken promises from NUFC, almost defending him striking. Whilst caveating it with "we don't know what's gone on". I know they have to try and play devil's advocate up to a point. But it still seemed like a ridiculous viewpoint. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lovejoy Posted August 18, 2025 Share Posted August 18, 2025 The Sweden manager has weighed in, suggesting that the media don’t know the full picture. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ikon Posted August 18, 2025 Share Posted August 18, 2025 Isak obviously has told him his own version. Wouldn’t surprise me if it’s twisted. Cunt! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Interpolic Posted August 18, 2025 Share Posted August 18, 2025 3 minutes ago, lovejoy said: The Sweden manager has weighed in, suggesting that the media don’t know the full picture. Well he sounds like a flat pack nonce n'all. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobbydazzla Posted August 18, 2025 Share Posted August 18, 2025 10 minutes ago, lovejoy said: The Sweden manager has weighed in, suggesting that the media don’t know the full picture. Who gives a fuck what he thinks, have never heard of the cunt Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RUHRLYASLEEVESUP Posted August 18, 2025 Share Posted August 18, 2025 Eddie Howe responds to claim Alexander Isak told him in May he wanted to quit Newcastle United Alexander Isak reportedly told Eddie Howe he wanted to quit well in advance of this summer's transfer saga Howe was asked if he feared that Isak would not be available for the Champions League campaign on the day Newcastle clinched qualification back in May, despite a 1-0 defeat by Everton. Howe told reporters: "Trust me, when that final whistle went, that (Isak leaving) was the furthest thing from my mind. "It was just a feeling of relief really because we were hunting that prize all season. "We were in and around it after a really good run in December. I was not thinking of any individual in that moment, so I can’t really give an answer on that. Howe's comments suggest that he is being more than genuine on Isak's situation and any early warnings that the striker wanted to quit. Isak himself stated in a Press conference back in March that he intended to sit down with the club to discuss a new deal. Howe was then asked if he thought that Champions League qualification helped assure him Isak would not leave and pour cold water on transfer talk long before Liverpool placed a bid for the Sweden star. Howe said: "It was not dependent on Alex. My thinking was not just on one player. "Qualification was important for the squad in general. We have some outstanding players who want to play and compete in the best competitions. "So certainly, I had a feeling that would help us keep the majority of the squad. I’m sure we have players coveted by other clubs so that is a big part of what we need to do on a "We need to keep the momentum in the club with performances and results for long-term success." Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wyn davies Posted August 18, 2025 Share Posted August 18, 2025 13 minutes ago, lovejoy said: The Sweden manager has weighed in, suggesting that the media don’t know the full picture. Perhaps, Sweden manager is looking for an excuse to play him , as he can't afford not too. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GideonShandy Posted August 18, 2025 Share Posted August 18, 2025 "But it struck me that just a matter of months ago, I was up in the North East on the occasion that Newcastle played Arsenal. It was a packed house. Of course it is. It always is at Newcastle United. And the fans were in fine voice. And Alexander Isak that day scored the only goal of the game. And he spoke to me afterwards. You know, I love it here and I love playing in front of this crowd and these fans. And, you know, we just want to keep winning. I just want to do good and keep scoring goals and we will all be happy. I love it here. And I love it in front of these fans. And he was talking to me just straight after the end of the game. And he was thrilled to have scored the only goal of the game. And now this, Isak Adamant. He will not play for Newcastle again. If you didn't hear Gabby on breakfast, he really let loose. Wow. I mean... Wow. Who does he think he is, by the way?" Jim White on talkSport, August 12, 2025 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ianbeany Posted August 18, 2025 Share Posted August 18, 2025 (edited) 6 minutes ago, bobbydazzla said: Who gives a fuck what he thinks, have never heard of the cunt Its Jon Dahl Tomasson "Alex is a great guy and very professional. We should all be very careful about drawing conclusions because we don’t know the bigger picture.” A bloke being paid a lot to play football and is refusing to play football. Aye very professional Jon Dahl https://www.thisisanfield.com/2025/08/sweden-manager-insists-we-dont-know-bigger-picture-of-alexander-isak-saga/ Edited August 18, 2025 by ianbeany Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kanj Posted August 18, 2025 Share Posted August 18, 2025 “Alex is a great guy and very professional. We should all be very careful about drawing conclusions because we don't know the bigger picture. I have spoken to Alex a lot during this period. I'm sure it will work out in the end, but you have to know the whole picture before you draw conclusions.” Jon Dahl, there is nothing professional about his behavior. There is nothing professional skirting your teammates and club who have you under contract to play football. Shut the fuck up. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MagPar Posted August 18, 2025 Share Posted August 18, 2025 3 minutes ago, wyn davies said: Perhaps, Sweden manager is looking for an excuse to play him , as he can't afford not too. Swede manager on way to media duties. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RUHRLYASLEEVESUP Posted August 18, 2025 Share Posted August 18, 2025 2 minutes ago, ianbeany said: Its Jon Dahl Tomasson "Alex is a great guy and very professional. We should all be very careful about drawing conclusions because we don’t know the bigger picture.” A bloke being paid a lot to play football and is refusing to play football. Aye very professional Jon Dahl The bigger picture is Isak signed a 6 year contract Everything else is just noise trying to facilitate more money Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobbydazzla Posted August 18, 2025 Share Posted August 18, 2025 Just now, ianbeany said: Its Jon Dahl Tomasson "Alex is a great guy and very professional. We should all be very careful about drawing conclusions because we don’t know the bigger picture.” A bloke being paid a lot to play football and is refusing to play football. Aye very professional Jon Dahl I know who it is, I was being a dick But genuinely, who gives a fuck what the Sweden manager thinks. He's hardly going to come out and say "my star striker is being a cunt" Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ritchie Posted August 18, 2025 Share Posted August 18, 2025 That just sounds like he hasn't heard anything from him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RUHRLYASLEEVESUP Posted August 18, 2025 Share Posted August 18, 2025 4 minutes ago, ianbeany said: Its Jon Dahl Tomasson "Alex is a great guy and very professional. We should all be very careful about drawing conclusions because we don’t know the bigger picture.” A bloke being paid a lot to play football and is refusing to play football. Aye very professional Jon Dahl https://www.thisisanfield.com/2025/08/sweden-manager-insists-we-dont-know-bigger-picture-of-alexander-isak-saga/ Just who does he think he is eh ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sima Posted August 18, 2025 Share Posted August 18, 2025 Tommasson still haunted by that miss v Sheff Wed. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maggies Posted August 18, 2025 Share Posted August 18, 2025 Until we sign a replacement and someone bids an amount that we find acceptable then everything is just noise and can be ignored. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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