Stottie Posted September 21 Share Posted September 21 A simple square ball and he scores. Yes, it would still have been papering over the cracks. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lotus Posted September 21 Share Posted September 21 1 minute ago, Ikon said: Isolation yes, but he needs to do more to give him self the chance to get more involved. Have seen this version of Isak too many times through the years. Piss poor overall today is mind. I think ultimately we're not really the right team for him. We need a brick sh*t house who can hold the ball up and can close down defenders relentlessly for 90 mins to minimize out pourous midfield. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
r0cafella Posted September 21 Share Posted September 21 Isak is definitely the problem let’s bin him off to someone better than us and have big Willie bully defenders. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nufcjb Posted September 21 Share Posted September 21 He can dribble the ball, he can outsmart a defender. But he fails to complete a simple.pass on so many occasions. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lotus Posted September 21 Share Posted September 21 Just now, r0cafella said: Isak is definitely the problem let’s bin him off to someone better than us and have big Willie bully defenders. It's very possible to have good players who don't fit your style. Happens all the time. We also show no inclination of adapting to him, so..... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gallowgate Toon Posted September 21 Share Posted September 21 (edited) While he can be isolated, he sometimes massively fails at a fairly fundamental part of being a lone striker with his general play. Part of the reason we don't pin teams down in there to increase his service can be that he's behind play or is really slack with his decisions. An amazing striker when in form but he has to take more responsibility if he wants to go up a notch. Edited September 21 by Gallowgate Toon Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
r0cafella Posted September 21 Share Posted September 21 15 minutes ago, Lotus said: It's very possible to have good players who don't fit your style. Happens all the time. We also show no inclination of adapting to him, so..... what style do we have at present? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pilko Posted September 21 Share Posted September 21 Too many more games where we create nowt for him and he'll start to think about a move, IMO. He's not in great form but equally he's miles better than we're making him look at the minute. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Palestoon Posted September 21 Share Posted September 21 He scored 3 in 2 during the last international break for Sweden. We simply don't play to his strengths. He needs players closer to him. Either a 10 to interchange with and slip him in when he makes off the shoulder runs, or a strong CF to win knockdowns for him and create space. We were supposed to build the team around him, but he looks like the odd man out in our current set up Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newcastle Fan Posted September 21 Share Posted September 21 He's always marked by two players, i though Ousula for Gordon should've happened sooner to allow him more space. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kanj Posted September 21 Share Posted September 21 Sure could use Wilson’s physicality in matches like today with Isak playing off him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gbandit Posted September 21 Share Posted September 21 I think it's a major issue that we're never getting in behind teams. If you watched Chelsea earlier they were in behind West Ham so often but we really struggle to play slide rule passes other than from Bruno. Murphy did a good job releasing Barnes but we don't get the ball to Isak into those positions anywhere near enough. I don't actually know if that's an Isak issue or a midfield issue, or both Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pubteam Posted September 21 Share Posted September 21 6 minutes ago, gbandit said: I think it's a major issue that we're never getting in behind teams. If you watched Chelsea earlier they were in behind West Ham so often but we really struggle to play slide rule passes other than from Bruno. Murphy did a good job releasing Barnes but we don't get the ball to Isak into those positions anywhere near enough. I don't actually know if that's an Isak issue or a midfield issue, or both With isak, Barnes and Gordon in your arsenal, it's frustrating that we can't get them all in behind. Teams manage it against us so easily. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
soyt Posted September 21 Share Posted September 21 Few things that i was very surprised today. He was 1-on-1 in the first half, did not take the defender on - stopped and waited for help. In the second half Gordon broke from the left and Isak just needed to make a run near post but he just waited behind a defender. Both situations that would have ended very differently last season. Of course he is too isolated, but still I don't understand what is it, just that something is missing. It is the same with Gordon and many more. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sibierski Posted September 21 Share Posted September 21 We’ve seemingly got a few players now who are top class, but in the system of 4-3-3 where it’s almost everyone is equal, it limits certain players and actually makes the system poorer. Giving the games we’ve had, the lack of chances we’ve created for Isak is so poor. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted September 21 Share Posted September 21 3 hours ago, gbandit said: I think it's a major issue that we're never getting in behind teams. If you watched Chelsea earlier they were in behind West Ham so often but we really struggle to play slide rule passes other than from Bruno. Murphy did a good job releasing Barnes but we don't get the ball to Isak into those positions anywhere near enough. I don't actually know if that's an Isak issue or a midfield issue, or both Bruno's not making as many slide rule passes as I thought he would when we signed him tbh. But that aside I agree. I always feel our football should be good enough to get someone like Isak in behind more, especially considering he's lethal one on one. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kanj Posted September 21 Share Posted September 21 The fact isak’s looking for tap ins and not banging in worldies and curlers or neat finishes is a real problem that needs to be solved by EH Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid Icarus Posted September 27 Share Posted September 27 No posts about this? Been told he's been playing with a broken toe. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
r0cafella Posted September 27 Share Posted September 27 1 minute ago, Kid Icarus said: No posts about this? Been told he's been playing with a broken toe. Discussion in the match thread Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turnbull2000 Posted September 27 Share Posted September 27 (edited) Back after the international break with Wilson then There's no point forcing him to play tbh. Give him the 3-4 weeks it will take to heel. Edited September 27 by Turnbull2000 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BoSelecta Posted September 27 Share Posted September 27 3 minutes ago, Turnbull2000 said: Back after the international break with Wilson then There's no point forcing him to play tbh. Give him the 3-4 weeks it will take to heel. It’s his toe not his heel. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PauloGeordio Posted September 27 Share Posted September 27 He plays Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nufc123 Posted September 27 Share Posted September 27 A little bit tiresome this fitness worry almost every week it seems (I know its not every week). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted September 27 Share Posted September 27 Am I right in thinking you can't really treat a broken toe? And obviously you can't just rest the guy for 8 weeks or whatever? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Conjo Posted September 27 Share Posted September 27 He didn't train ahead of the Fulham game either and was really poor. Doesn't seem like we've learned any lessons from last season if we pump him up with meds & throw him on from the start. 4 minutes ago, AyeDubbleYoo said: Am I right in thinking you can't really treat a broken toe? And obviously you can't just rest the guy for 8 weeks or whatever? Depends on the severity of course, but you can't really treat a fracture with anything other than rest no. Don't know about the risks of making it worse or prolonging the healing process by playing, but seems obvious to me at least that it isn't recommended. Surely he is exposed to making things even worse if he hits his toe hard during the game. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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