Kimbo Posted June 7, 2023 Share Posted June 7, 2023 31 minutes ago, Sempiternal said: Conference over the league cup every single day of the week You need to beat top clubs to win the league cup, surely it has more bragging rights. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Optimistic Nut Posted June 7, 2023 Share Posted June 7, 2023 18 minutes ago, number37 said: Yeah, that's a good point. I think if you're used to Champions League then you're going to regard it as a bit of a drop off - with a fair degree of justification but it'll be a cracking adventure if you're not as used to (or jaded by) European football. Not sure if it'd work, but how about like with the Intertoto Cup you can 'decline' an invitation if you don't want to play in it? Allow it to drop maybe no lower than 10th position, then allow another country an entry if no bugger wants it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amir_9 Posted June 7, 2023 Share Posted June 7, 2023 (edited) 38 minutes ago, Geordie Ahmed said: In order of winning preference would we agree it's like this Premier League Champions League FA Cup Europa League League Cup Europa Conference Champions League = Premier League Europa League (seeing as it gets some pretty big clubs in there these days) FA Cup Europa Conference League Cup Edited June 7, 2023 by Amir_9 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Posted June 7, 2023 Share Posted June 7, 2023 47 minutes ago, Geordie Ahmed said: In order of winning preference would we agree it's like this Premier League Champions League FA Cup Europa League League Cup Europa Conference Europeans over domestic cups just because it means you’re in Europe but honestly couldn’t give a shit. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nobody Posted June 7, 2023 Share Posted June 7, 2023 What a weird season West Ham has had At one point, they looked in real trouble of getting relegated, and I bet a lot of their fans at some point would have said they would have liked to sack off the conference league to focus on the league. Now they ended up winning the whole thing, their first trophy in ages. Kind of feel like they deserve it for sticking with Moyes, becoming less of a fan of teams just sacking their managers hoping for a quick fix. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Optimistic Nut Posted June 7, 2023 Share Posted June 7, 2023 4 minutes ago, Nobody said: What a weird season West Ham has had At one point, they looked in real trouble of getting relegated, and I bet a lot of their fans at some point would have said they would have liked to sack off the conference league to focus on the league. Now they ended up winning the whole thing, their first trophy in ages. Kind of feel like they deserve it for sticking with Moyes, becoming less of a fan of teams just sacking their managers hoping for a quick fix. They've literally had the 'would you rather finish 4th and not win a cup, or finish 14th and win something' season. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
huss9 Posted June 7, 2023 Share Posted June 7, 2023 well done west ham. now i hope they get banned from europe next season because of their fans behaviour. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Interpolic Posted June 8, 2023 Share Posted June 8, 2023 Pleased for West Ham, met a fair few of their fans in London and they're generally salt-of-the-earth types who are annoyed at the goings-on at their club 90% of the time with no huge expectations of improvement Always saw the parallels with us in that respect, and it's good we've both been allowed to have nice things this season in the end. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBrownBottle Posted June 8, 2023 Share Posted June 8, 2023 (edited) 6 hours ago, Geordie Ahmed said: In order of winning preference would we agree it's like this Premier League Champions League FA Cup Europa League League Cup Europa Conference Nope European Cup Premier League UEFA Cup FA Cup Conference League League Cup The traditionalist in me wants to place the FA Cup much higher, but it’s been damaged badly over previous decades. I’m astonished by the numbers on here who’d take a PL win over the European Cup. I would swap five league titles for one European Cup Edited June 8, 2023 by TheBrownBottle Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBrownBottle Posted June 8, 2023 Share Posted June 8, 2023 5 hours ago, Kimbo said: You need to beat top clubs to win the league cup, surely it has more bragging rights. Conference League 100% trumps League Cup for me. Not sure why beating Fiorentina in a final is less prestigious. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanshithispantz Posted June 8, 2023 Share Posted June 8, 2023 (edited) They're 8th in Serie A like. It's a much more interesting cup as it's great to see your side compete against European teams, but the quality of opposition is much worse than you'll see in the League Cup. The final almost always has a top 4 side in it. Edited June 8, 2023 by Hanshithispantz Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted June 8, 2023 Share Posted June 8, 2023 1 hour ago, TheBrownBottle said: Conference League 100% trumps League Cup for me. Not sure why beating Fiorentina in a final is less prestigious. Tbf Fiorentina finished 8th in Serie A. league cup and conference league are about the same level to me. Champions league obviously thr pinnacle of European club football. I only have Europa above FA Cup because of the CL qualification. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBrownBottle Posted June 8, 2023 Share Posted June 8, 2023 We play the ‘big boys’ in England twice a season, and it’s a domestic pot. The only reason the FA Cup registers so high for me is the history and prestige of it - European competitions generally hold greater value. The UEFA Cup would be the bigger trophy to win - just - but if you ask me on another day I might put it below the FA Cup (though only for emotive reasons). If I wasn’t an English NUFC supporter, I wonder if I’d actually put it below the Conference League. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stifler Posted June 8, 2023 Share Posted June 8, 2023 44 minutes ago, Hanshithispantz said: They're 8th in Serie A like. It's a much more interesting cup as it's great to see your side compete against European teams, but the quality of opposition is much worse than you'll see in the League Cup. The final almost always has a top 4 side in it. The thing is though, for the top 4/nations in the Conference League, each one of those teams would have qualified for the Europa League a couple of years ago. Ok both Fiorentina and West Ham have had bad seasons, but that could have happened in the Europa League, in fact it did with Seville this year. For what it’s worth, unless they get a ban, then Juventus will be in the Conference League next season, hardly a minnow. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paully Posted June 8, 2023 Share Posted June 8, 2023 Anyone turning their noses up at winning this is mental! Some of them were arseholes last night but they’re the best fans in London and I know a few so I’m pleased for them! Proper fans like us! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
triggs Posted June 8, 2023 Share Posted June 8, 2023 1 hour ago, Hanshithispantz said: They're 8th in Serie A like. It's a much more interesting cup as it's great to see your side compete against European teams, but the quality of opposition is much worse than you'll see in the League Cup. The final almost always has a top 4 side in it. For most of the league cup you'll be playing against reserve teams mind Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nucasol Posted June 8, 2023 Share Posted June 8, 2023 Premier League all day. The thought of beating the Sinister Six over a 38 game season, all the highs, lows and drama that would entail, makes it the most special. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted June 8, 2023 Share Posted June 8, 2023 FA Cup is harder to win then Europa League. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cronky Posted June 8, 2023 Share Posted June 8, 2023 Saw the last 20 minutes and I thought that Fiorentina were terrible. I'm pleased for Moyes, who I've always quite liked. He's had a long career and it must feel great to land a trophy at last. But the Conference is a competition for teams that aren't good enough for the Europa League, and I'm not that bothered about the Europa League, because that's for teams who aren't good enough for the UCL. A lot of trips to the far-flung outposts of Europe which detract from your domestic form. I'm genuinely dubious about the benefits of qualifying for the other European competitions. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Optimistic Nut Posted June 8, 2023 Share Posted June 8, 2023 Premier League Champions League FA Cup Europa League Europa Conference Carabao Cup Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
toon25 Posted June 8, 2023 Share Posted June 8, 2023 I think the FA Cup has massively declined in prestige in my lifetime, which is a shame. It's not too far off the League Cup in terms of significance these days. Either way, both of those trophies would be at the bottom of the list for me. CL PL EL ECL FAC LC Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
STM Posted June 8, 2023 Share Posted June 8, 2023 Premier League = Champions League Europa=FA League Cup = Conference League In my mind. Winning the CL without winning the PL with the same squad seems weird and devalues it somehow... just in my mind of course. However winning the PL multiple times and not winning the CL with a certain squad had its own mini asterix. It's all personal preference TBH. Would shag me dead granny for a League Cup. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RodneyCisse Posted June 8, 2023 Share Posted June 8, 2023 Can’t believe everyone is missing out this cup in their lists: Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geogaddi Posted June 8, 2023 Share Posted June 8, 2023 Its definitely the Papa Johns of European trophies but it would still be nice to win. Having said that I would like to think our ambition and owners we have now means we wont ever end up in it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KDT Posted June 8, 2023 Share Posted June 8, 2023 Sorry like but until we actually start winning things regularly a league cup win should be on the same level as a league title for us. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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