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At the same time they are being badly outflanked by people who actually know something about football and provide a much better standard of analysis than they do. Ironically those people are the most popular on social media, podcasts and YouTube. 

 

Trying to get a funny Gary Neville clip to go viral is a shite way to respond to that, IMO. 

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26 minutes ago, Yorkie said:

https://theathletic.com/4600507/2023/06/22/pundits-are-not-there-to-act-as-fans/?source=user-shared-article

 

Excellent write-up from Michael Cox re this utterly tedious craic. 

 

 

Slobs vs snobs

Saying nothing vs talking pretentious shit

Having a laugh vs thinking what you're saying is important

 

It would be nice to get some middle ground and tbf I think Cox is really exaggerating. Micah Richards and his put on craic gets on my nerves and the fanTV style has crept in a bit but it's hardly as a replacement for analysis like, it's alongside it. 

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I once played in a 5-a-side game about an hour after my wife had received a letter regarding a potential cancer scare (she was fine) and although I'm shite anyway,  the term "might as well not have been on the field" would be better applied than just having a bad game, I just basically wandered round in a daze for an hour trying not to cry.

 

It's an obvious fact that we do dehumanise players and expect them to perform all the time at an elite level (and often call into question not just their ability but their effort when they don't), when we actually have no idea if their dad's ill, or their wife's walked out on them, or they've just had the dog put down.

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2 minutes ago, Wullie said:

I once played in a 5-a-side game about an hour after my wife had received a letter regarding a potential cancer scare (she was fine) and although I'm shite anyway,  the term "might as well not have been on the field" would be better applied than just having a bad game, I just basically wandered round in a daze for an hour trying not to cry.

 

It's an obvious fact that we do dehumanise players and expect them to perform all the time at an elite level (and often call into question not just their ability but their effort when they don't), when we actually have no idea if their dad's ill, or their wife's walked out on them, or they've just had the dog put down.

I was the opposite , though it wasn't as soon as that, but there have been on going situations and when I played I seemed to give it more, I found it easier to get to the point where everything was intuitive and free of thought . lve said before about using football (and music) as a respite, to remove myself from the situation temporarily and it worked for me. Its possibly why being outside and exercising is seen as a great first stop therapy for many things. 

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Ah he comes across like a decent dude. I’m sure he’s getting a contract he can’t turn down there. Be very surprised if he was loaned back to anyone. They want those players over there.

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On 22/06/2023 at 14:52, The Prophet said:

Awful stuff. This sort of stuff needs to be broadcasted louder for the cheap seats.

That's really powerful, that. Speaks well too.

 

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