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25 minutes ago, SteV said:

Have their actions actually made any significant difference though? 


Think that’s the wrong attitude to have personally. Best to be proactive against things you don’t believe in, and I’m sure their efforts weren’t in vein in ousting Hicks and Gillet (whatever they were called), albeit some time ago. 
 

They’re a lot more militant than we would ever be for sure. I remember me and my mates getting dogs abuse in our local for skipping the spurs game that time. 

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15 minutes ago, Chicken Dancer said:


Think that’s the wrong attitude to have personally. Best to be proactive against things you don’t believe in, and I’m sure their efforts weren’t in vein in ousting Hicks and Gillet (whatever they were called), albeit some time ago. 
 

They’re a lot more militant than we would ever be for sure. I remember me and my mates getting dogs abuse in our local for skipping the spurs game that time. 

I understand and respect, even agree to a point, that it’s the wrong attitude to have. 
 

My point is more I can fully understand why someone would adopt that attitude, especially if they haven’t got the time and space in their lives to fully absorb all of the information that surrounds these topics.

 

What we often don’t consider, and this relates to all teams not just NUFC, is that the majority of people in a fanbase, even a match-going fanbase, just want to go and support their team. They don’t want to get caught up in everything like this. 
 

‘They should consider the greater good’, you’d probably say, and, aye, they should, but football’s meant to be an escape, not an additional grind to everything else in life.

 

In someways it’s a bit like taking an interest in politics (going off on a wild segway here…). You should really, cos it can have a genuine effect on your life, but at the same time it’s easy to say ‘nah, it’s not very enjoyable, and it won’t make any difference anyway’.

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34 minutes ago, HaydnNUFC said:


https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/35546090

 

Tickets stayed at this level until last season, and they’re trying to put them up again. Hence the protests.

 

 

 

That’s fair, and maybe I was slightly dismissive of their achievements, but ultimately, I still think the point stands that they’re fighting a losing battle overall, they’re just doing a good job of slowing the tide down.

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2 hours ago, Chicken Dancer said:


Say what you want about them cunts (and they are cunts) but they always stand up for what they believe to be the greater good. They’d have had Ashley out well before 14 years was up, that’s for sure. 
 

Still narks me to this day we couldn’t coordinate a widespread, meaningful protest against him. That Spurs home game is the only one that stands out but even that was short lived. 

Probably not a popular opinion around these parts, but I’ve never had any issues with the red side of Liverpool.  Actual scousers, that is.  It’s a working class northern city which loves its football. 
 

It is the tiresome, sad case, tiny-dicked glory seekers who are the problem - the sad fuckers used to just seem to come from the Home Counties and Ireland but now are from all around the world, a bunch of overpaying tourists pushing the club from its actual support base.  They’re absolutely right to protest - something we are unbelievably shite at and always have been.
 

I took a personal decision to walk away in 2008, about twenty years after my first ST, after Ashley exposed who and what he was.  That’s all any of us could do on Tyneside - any attempt at organising would be met with sneering or fury by some quarters, with their weird ideas about ‘loyalty’, as if we owed the club it rather than the other way around. 

 

 

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As someone who was among many others on here part of Pardew/Ashley Out I’ll never criticise fans of other clubs for wanting better for their clubs on things like this.

 

Its as far removed as it ever has been but football clubs are community institutions and beacons and that comes before all else.

 

And if you’re not from that community you need to buy into it, as shan as it sounds.

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9 hours ago, TheBrownBottle said:

Probably not a popular opinion around these parts, but I’ve never had any issues with the red side of Liverpool.  Actual scousers, that is.  It’s a working class northern city which loves its football. 
 

It is the tiresome, sad case, tiny-dicked glory seekers who are the problem - the sad fuckers used to just seem to come from the Home Counties and Ireland but now are from all around the world, a bunch of overpaying tourists pushing the club from its actual support base.  They’re absolutely right to protest - something we are unbelievably shite at and always have been.
 

I took a personal decision to walk away in 2008, about twenty years after my first ST, after Ashley exposed who and what he was.  That’s all any of us could do on Tyneside - any attempt at organising would be met with sneering or fury by some quarters, with their weird ideas about ‘loyalty’, as if we owed the club it rather than the other way around. 

 

 

 


That was me in 2019 mate. Been very,  very lucky to get a season ticket again but it still gets me absolutely raging the summer of 19’. 
 

Really created an us v them mentality within our fanbase and I don’t think it’s ever truly recovered tbh.

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1 hour ago, Chicken Dancer said:


That was me in 2019 mate. Been very,  very lucky to get a season ticket again but it still gets me absolutely raging the summer of 19’. 
 

Really created an us v them mentality within our fanbase and I don’t think it’s ever truly recovered tbh.

It’s an awful position to be in mate - it’s not even that I entirely disagree with the ‘other sides’ position.  There’s no good answer to any of it. 

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14 hours ago, TheBrownBottle said:

Probably not a popular opinion around these parts, but I’ve never had any issues with the red side of Liverpool.  Actual scousers, that is.  It’s a working class northern city which loves its football. 
 

It is the tiresome, sad case, tiny-dicked glory seekers who are the problem - the sad fuckers used to just seem to come from the Home Counties and Ireland but now are from all around the world, a bunch of overpaying tourists pushing the club from its actual support base.  They’re absolutely right to protest - something we are unbelievably shite at and always have been.
 

I took a personal decision to walk away in 2008, about twenty years after my first ST, after Ashley exposed who and what he was.  That’s all any of us could do on Tyneside - any attempt at organising would be met with sneering or fury by some quarters, with their weird ideas about ‘loyalty’, as if we owed the club it rather than the other way around. 

 

 

 

 

Aye got to say that's my experience of Liverpool away/Scousers as well.

 

Went there 7 times in the 1990s, Ronnie Whelans Testimonial, the 5 year anniversary of Hillsborough match, Steve Watsons winner in the LC, the 4-3s and a few more less eventful ones. All great occasions where we all mixed freely and drank and sang songs together and necer an issue.

 

It seemed to start to change in the early 00s. It started becoming evident that the amount of Scousers in their fanbase was on the decline and the amount of tourists was massively on the up and it told in the pre/post match atmosphere and also the atmosphere inside Anfield which started to decline. Also seen bother there for the first time ever when they beat us 2-1 in the FA Cup.

 

Been a couple of times this past decade and it's very much a changed place these days, and not for the better. Respect them for what they did at the weekend though.

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Aye scousers are sound as fuck. Met a cracking group of lads when me and the lads were in Albuferia in 2023, but when it comes to football they're awful. Social media wouldn't have helped like, and they love nowt more than making something about them.

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6 hours ago, Chicken Dancer said:


That was me in 2019 mate. Been very,  very lucky to get a season ticket again but it still gets me absolutely raging the summer of 19’. 
 

Really created an us v them mentality within our fanbase and I don’t think it’s ever truly recovered tbh.

Sounds like we have had similar experiences. I too jacked in 2019 but got my ticket back. 

Still to this day annoys me greatly that we still had 48k at that 1st home game of 19/20 season v Arsenal. 

Hated our fan base tbh. Felt badly let down.

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2 minutes ago, Scoreboard82 said:

Sounds like we have had similar experiences. I too jacked in 2019 but got my ticket back. 

Still to this day annoys me greatly that we still had 48k at that 1st home game of 19/20 season v Arsenal. 

Hated our fan base tbh. Felt badly let down.

 

Yep I still do if I'm being honest. The 10k free ones was just the final fuck you from Ashley, really felt like we'd never get it back at that point. 

 

Obviously it was an amazing season anyway, but I think that's why I still loved 22/23 above every season (including last, which sounds mental). Being back there and just the positivity around the place post-takeover was something to behold.

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57 minutes ago, Disco said:

Mudryk banned for 4 years for doping.

 

There's a special loophole in the ban allowing him to play once a year at Stamford Bridge against Newcastle.

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As with most of their transfers, there's something incredibly dodgy about Mudryk to Chelsea and the fact we've not seen or heard about this case in well over a year.

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22 hours ago, Disco said:

Mudryk banned for 4 years for doping.

Still be under contract when the ban is over?

 

Or did he not sign an 8 year one?.

 

This should be grounds for termination regardless, but the idea is amusing nonetheless.

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I believe it was Winston Bogarde who pointed out - in reference to Adrian Mutu getting done for coke, and subsequently being ordered to pay Chelsea €17m in compensation for breach of contract - that when it became clear that Chelsea wanted shot of him he noticed a huge increase in very beautiful women coming up to him on nights out, trying to get him on the beak. Could be they've moved onto surreptitiously doping their money sinks with PEDs.

 

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