The Europeometer™ (2023/24) - permutations in O.P.

[buzza]

We keep playing the way we are and we will be top four again this year.

Other teams will all have a drop in form/results (see villa today - gap shortened!)

[HaydnNUFC]

We've been performing exceptionally given our injuries atm but do feel we need to do some business in January to stay in the mix if Botman is out for an extended period (as brilliant as Lascelles has been) and due to Tonali's suspension. We're also asking Gordon to play every match atm.

 

Unsure if we have the scope for that though given financial restrictions and January being a tough window to get the players you want.

[cubaricho]

Who had the spreadsheet with the corresponding fixtures from last season and our results this season? I know we’ve had a rough start but I feel like that chart shows that we’re actually better off this season?

[samptime29]

Spurs, Man City and Man United, Brighton are key home games. Do well there and beat the lesser teams consistently, we can get top 4.

[Optimistic Nut]

Only 8 losses in the last 50 league games. I don't imagine there'll be many rolling 50 game periods in our history with much better than that. We lost 8 in the 95/6 season alone.

[SteV]

4 hours ago, SUPERTOON said:

When is it decided if top 5 gets champions league ?

End of the season. Purely based on how each country’s teams do in Europe this season.

 

So potentially the league season could have ended and you wouldn’t know until the European finals have taken place (although probably unlikely that it comes down to that).

[Geogaddi]

1 minute ago, Optimistic Nut said:

Only 8 losses in the last 50 league games. I don't imagine there'll be many rolling 50 game periods in our history with much better than that. We lost 8 in the 95/6 season alone.

Even more impressive when you see the teams we have lost to since the start of last season.  Brighton in 7th are the lowest placed team to have beaten us in that time , you basically have to be one of the best teams in the league to beat us . We don't lose to mid table teams or relegation fodder .

[Optimistic Nut]

Seems like the first matchday results have all gone our way during this run. Chelsea winning tomorrow night and the top 4 is right on.

[54]

Gained 3 points on Arsenal.

Gained 3 points on Villa.

Gained 2 points in Liverpool.

 

Handy weekend that.

[midds]

2 minutes ago, 54 said:

Gained 3 points on Arsenal.

Gained 3 points on Villa.

Gained 2 points in Liverpool.

 

Handy weekend that.

Could probably add the 2 Brighton dropped too

[Optimistic Nut]

Table since we lost at Brighton.

 

 

[Decky]

Villa have some hard games coming up so we've a chance to get ahead of them by a few points. Think they're our main competition for top 5. I think Spurs, Liverpool, Arsenal and City will do it and one of us or Villa. 

[midds]

 

Spurs still have a lot of tough games to play and are still riding a bit of a wave imo. They've had a great start to the season and I like Ange but they'll regress a bit and start to fall down the league a little in the next few months. Just a hunch

[BonesJones]

1 minute ago, midds said:

 

Spurs still have a lot of tough games to play and are still riding a bit of a wave imo. They've had a great start to the season and I like Ange but they'll regress a bit and start to fall down the league a little in the next few months. Just a hunch

 

Do you think Spurs success currently might be because Ange hasn't been figured out yet? I agree that they will drop down a bit.

 

Also going to throw this out there. I think we finish third. City 1st, Liverpool 2nd.

[gjohnson]

Well...by my wreckoning we still have 81 points to play for..

 

Half of this should se us get Europe of some description pretty comfortably. Three quarters should see us in the champions league, and another 75 should see us pushing City for the title.

 

On the pessimistic site...we only need a few more wins to not be relegated 😅

[Stifler]

Just now, gjohnson said:

Well...by my wreckoning we still have 81 points to play for..

 

Half of this should se us get Europe of some description pretty comfortably. Three quarters should see us in the champions league, and another 75 should see us pushing City for the title.

 

On the pessimistic site...we only need a few more wins to not be relegated 😅

Probably already there in regards to relegation, the bottom 4 are fucking shit. Well actually I think Luton are the best placed team to survive.

I can honestly see Sheffield United not winning another game this season.

[midds]

3 minutes ago, BonesJones said:

 

Do you think Spurs success currently might be because Ange hasn't been figured out yet? I agree that they will drop down a bit.

 

Also going to throw this out there. I think we finish third. City 1st, Liverpool 2nd.

Possibly, aye? He's new to the PL and they're still being figured out and researched by the rest of the league so that's go to come into things a bit I suppose. They were the beneficiaries of the Liverpool var thing and got 2 injury time goals against Sheff U too. Fair enough they won both but both were quite unusual and rare types of games, games that don't happen very often but they got the points and atm they're 2nd. Just think it'll even itself out a bit and they'll slip back into the pack soon enough. They've also played 5 or the bottom 6 too. Won them all to their credit but their points total just seems a bit inflated and false maybe? 

 

Meh, we'll see in May

[RodneyCisse]

If 5th gets us in 5th gets us in.

 

Teams hate playing us now, Arsenal who have eyes on the title came to draw. Liverpool too but nicked it off us with 2 chances.

[Optimistic Nut]

4 minutes ago, RodneyCisse said:

If 5th gets us in 5th gets us in.

 

Teams hate playing us now, Arsenal who have eyes on the title came to draw. Liverpool too but nicked it off us with 2 chances.

 

https://www.uefa.com/nationalassociations/uefarankings/country/#/yr/2024

 

Assuming that's correct, we're on for getting the 5th slot so far. 

[80]

3 minutes ago, Optimistic Nut said:

 

https://www.uefa.com/nationalassociations/uefarankings/country/#/yr/2024

 

Assuming that's correct, we're on for getting the 5th slot so far. 

I don't really understand this, but doesn't that currently have Italy and Germany in the lead? Assuming Turkey and Belgium don't make the cut... I think the rankings are based only on this season's performances, with nothing previously taken into account.

[Geordie Ahmed]

4 minutes ago, 80 said:

I don't really understand this, but doesn't that currently have Italy and Germany in the lead? Assuming Turkey and Belgium don't make the cut... I think the rankings are based only on this season's performances, with nothing previously taken into account.

That's right, it is only this season so as things stand we won't get it

 

However as the season goes on we likely will move up the ranking

[Optimistic Nut]

Aye that looks like the last few years, didn't see the last column to sort by this season. 

 

Can't really see past a Spain and England 1&2 again though. 

[Gazzaschicken]

Highest 5th place ever in the 38 game season was 75 points. So if we can average 2 points a game which we are currently just under then we could get top 4.

 

I think it will be close and our cup runs will be the biggest factor for where we finish in the league.

[Stottie]

8 hours ago, Optimistic Nut said:

Table since we lost at Brighton.

 

 

 

In all comps since Brighton, we have 8 clean sheets in 12 games.

That includes AC Milan away, both Manchester clubs, and Arsenal.

[Phil]

Looking at the teams below us, i cant see any of them gaining more points than us and therefore overtaking us, meaning 6th is the lowest we'll finish.  It's just a case of can we catch any of the teams currently above us in the table.  I think we can catch Villa and possibly Spurs (who are about to enter a period of tricky games).

 

Get a good run going  and a couple of bodies in the January window, then there's no reason why we cant get 4th again IMO.  Just cant afford anymore injuries!