BermyToon Posted February 22 Share Posted February 22 3 hours ago, Vaj said: Top 5 I believe is pretty nailed on for CL 6th Europa League 7th Conference League because the winner of the Carabao will be in the CL If winner of the FA Cup is already in Europe then 7th Europa League and 8th Conference league Has it been confirmed that the top five English clubs will get Champions League? And not top four. And if someone from the top 5 wins the FA Cup, then both the 6th and 7th placed teams get UEFA Cup? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Optimistic Nut Posted February 22 Share Posted February 22 Just now, BermyToon said: Has it been confirmed that the top five English clubs will get Champions League? And not top four. And if someone from the top 5 wins the FA Cup, then both the 6th and 7th placed teams get UEFA Cup? Haven't been tracking it this season because we haven't been in the hunt, but I'd be very surprised if we're not in the top 2 in the co-efficient again. Villa winning the Europa League and finishing top 6 probably knocks that competition down to 7th place? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Superior Acuña Posted February 22 Share Posted February 22 (edited) England were running away wit the coefficient last I checked, don’t think there’s much doubt it’ll be top 5. Edited February 22 by Superior Acuña Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scoot Posted February 22 Share Posted February 22 14 minutes ago, Superior Acuña said: England were running away wit the coefficient last I checked, don’t think there’s much doubt it’ll be top 5. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldtype Posted February 22 Share Posted February 22 1 hour ago, frankpingel said: Would absolutely love the Europa mind. Plenty good teams but a definite chance of adding to our trophy cabinet. I realise some players might view it differently but they've not suffered what we have. Being in the Europa with a team that might be one of the favorites to win it will be a lot of fun. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mattoon Posted February 22 Share Posted February 22 4 hours ago, 500bhp said: Win the FA cup! Better still, win the CL! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stifler Posted February 22 Share Posted February 22 Top 7-8 is there do us if it drops down to those positions. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holloway Posted February 22 Share Posted February 22 let's see if we can somehow avoid the Conference Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stifler Posted February 22 Share Posted February 22 3 minutes ago, Holloway said: Let's see if we can somehow avoid the Conference. I’d rather be in it than be without Europe. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jewel Posted February 22 Share Posted February 22 43 minutes ago, Mattoon said: Better still, win the CL! Why not both? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holloway Posted February 22 Share Posted February 22 1 minute ago, Stifler said: I’d rather be in it than be without Europe. each to their own, carry on. Holds next to zero prestige for me, have you seen the teams left in it? I'd rather go full pelt domestically and forget about the outer reaches of Europe for a season Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stifler Posted February 22 Share Posted February 22 (edited) 3 minutes ago, Holloway said: each to their own, carry on. Holds next to zero prestige for me, have you seen the teams left in it? I'd rather go full pelt domestically and forget about the outer reaches of Europe for a season It’s good for our coefficient, it’s good for us to assemble a squad and manage with games in midweek. It will be good to have extra income, the prize money is not massive but more home games would give us a bit of extra income. We also need to stay relevant, and being in some sort of European competition is that. If the Conference League becomes our minimum, that it holds well for our maximum. Edited February 22 by Stifler Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holloway Posted February 22 Share Posted February 22 1 minute ago, Stifler said: It’s good for our coefficient, it’s good for us to assemble a squad and manage with games in midweek. It will be good to have extra income, the prize money is not massive but more home games would give us a bit of extra income. We also need to stay relevant, and being in some sort of European competition is that. If the Conference League becomes our minimum, that it holds well for our maximum. the prize money isn't not massive, it's miniscule. I get the coefficient angle, but it's not enough for me to want to partake in it. Lifting the FA cup will be fine for our relevance Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mattoon Posted February 22 Share Posted February 22 6 hours ago, Yorkie said: Believing this is a recipe for anguish later down the line imo. That's not me being a doom-monger or knocking the lads (I think they've been fucking incredible since the Brentford game tbh), but I think most of our issues aren't going away despite this mini-resurgence. I still think it'll be choppy between now and the end of the season, and that's okay - it's an absolutely mammoth effort staying competitive on three highly intensive fronts. That cup draw is so bloody cruel, like. Yeah we're still conceding sloppy goals, we still allow players to waltz between the lines and advance up the pitch without much resistance, but we've started to get better at keeping the ball and our own movement and fluidity up the pitch meaning we're not being constantly overrun. There's always going to be games we struggle in or it doesn't quite click, we've seen it in some of our best runs, but I genuinely think we've found something that works and will have more good games than the horror shows we've witnessed so far this season. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holloway Posted February 22 Share Posted February 22 3 minutes ago, Holloway said: the prize money isn't not massive, it's miniscule. I get the coefficient angle, but it's not enough for me to want to partake in it. Lifting the FA cup will be fine for our relevance one thing I would add to that, if it was a competition where we properly blooded the kids and fringe players all the way through I would consider that, but Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Decky Posted February 22 Share Posted February 22 Probably couldnt have asked for a better run of results this weekend to offset the usual zero points at the Etihad. Hopefully go on a decent run now starting with 6 points in the next two games. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeordieT Posted February 22 Share Posted February 22 1 hour ago, Stifler said: It’s good for our coefficient, it’s good for us to assemble a squad and manage with games in midweek. It will be good to have extra income, the prize money is not massive but more home games would give us a bit of extra income. We also need to stay relevant, and being in some sort of European competition is that. If the Conference League becomes our minimum, that it holds well for our maximum. And it’s also good for the match going fans. Some incredibly adventurous away trips in there. Lot of fun to be had. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stifler Posted February 22 Share Posted February 22 Just now, GeordieT said: And it’s also good for the match going fans. Some incredibly adventurous away trips in there. Lot of fun to be had. Yeah, and good for the squad to have those trips to unknown places and possibly difficult locations. I know we did well in midweek, but if we can get some Turkey and similar trips in where you are in do a battle, it will give the squad some resilience. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fenham Mag Posted February 22 Share Posted February 22 Also the conference league is very winnable, which guarantees Europa League. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Optimistic Nut Posted February 22 Share Posted February 22 (edited) Would be ironic if our worst season since the takeover gives us our best chance of a couple of European trophies in the next couple of years. Would happily be a Sevilla for a few years while we fill the cabinet for a bit, then push the elite. Edited February 22 by Optimistic Nut Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stifler Posted February 22 Share Posted February 22 3 hours ago, BermyToon said: Has it been confirmed that the top five English clubs will get Champions League? And not top four. And if someone from the top 5 wins the FA Cup, then both the 6th and 7th placed teams get UEFA Cup? England currently has more coefficient points than what would have made us a top 2 performing UEFA nation in all but 1 of the last 5 seasons. We are currently 2.379 points away from the total we’d need from the season we wouldn’t have made it with our current points total. Assuming us, Nottingham Forest, and Crystal Palace all make it through the play offs, then we would have an additional 1.277 points to add to our tally this season with 9 teams left in the next rounds to increase that total. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keegans Export Posted February 22 Share Posted February 22 If we qualify for the Europa/Conference League via the league, do we need to play a qualifier or is it straight into the group stage? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Optimistic Nut Posted February 22 Share Posted February 22 1 minute ago, Keegans Export said: If we qualify for the Europa/Conference League via the league, do we need to play a qualifier or is it straight into the group stage? I think Conference League is a qualifier. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stifler Posted February 22 Share Posted February 22 (edited) 3 minutes ago, Keegans Export said: If we qualify for the Europa/Conference League via the league, do we need to play a qualifier or is it straight into the group stage? Qualifier for the Conference League, straight to the group stages for the Europa League. However it is worth noting that the Conference League only has 6 league games, and that it has 1 less knockout round after the league stage. Edited February 22 by Stifler Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
midds Posted February 22 Share Posted February 22 I think the way UEFA has rigged the finances and organisation of it's competitions means that regular European football is essential if we're going to make inroads. The coefficient seems to have become incredibly important and sporadic appearances in Europe won't cut it any longer, we need to be in Europe every year possible, I don't think we can be too proud to enter the Conf L as we see it as beneath us, it'll be more games but I think we'd win it each year we took part if need be. It's not a competition that's designed for the likes of NUFC tbph but it's still a chance to win silverware, build the coefficient, develop players, earn money via home games and keep the profile of the club fairly high. I get it's not ideal but this is where we are and it's the hoops we need to jump through so we can close the gap Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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