Checko Posted February 19 Share Posted February 19 (edited) 5 minutes ago, The College Dropout said: But is Gordon now the number one goalscorer in the team? Is that his role? That's why I liked Wolte causing a scene. It shows he wants goals, he thinks it's important for him to get goals, more than Gordon's. I'd be annoyed if he wanted the first penalty. But at 4 up, I hear it. Let me eat some. It's a good mentality for a striker. I don't rate Gyokeres. But I like that he got annoyed at Saka that one time for not crossing it earlier. Yeah I like strikers who want the responsibility too, but it also seems silly for Trips and Wolt to get worked up in a game when we're dominating. If you can't enjoy it 4-0/5-0 when can you? Gordon's the #1 pelanty taker and he's nailed every one he's taken this year. You can ask but can't expect him to come off pels to let people pad their stats. Edited February 19 by Checko Added quote for new page context Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingxlnc Posted February 19 Share Posted February 19 Isn’t he more like a Bellamy? Nuisance, nippy, about as good a finisher too Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBrownBottle Posted February 19 Share Posted February 19 37 minutes ago, Checko said: Yeah I like strikers who want the responsibility too, but it also seems silly for Trips and Wolt to get worked up in a game when we're dominating. If you can't enjoy it 4-0/5-0 when can you? Gordon's the #1 pelanty taker and he's nailed every one he's taken this year. You can ask but can't expect him to come off pels to let people pad their stats. Didn’t want the responsibility until the pressure was off. If the centre forward wants to take the penalties I don’t doubt the manager and team would let him. He wasn’t pushing to the front when it mattered. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holloway Posted February 19 Share Posted February 19 1 hour ago, Benwell Lad said: Can't believe some of the negative comments or indifference to him leaving the club that have been aired for some time now. He's by far our most effective player in the opposition half. He terrifies defenders and losing him would create another Izak sized hole in our set up. Cherish the kid, appreciate him and learn to live with his emotional side. It's because he gave the rat a smidgen of backing ,some people can't get over it and they just look like bitter fools going forward Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikky Posted February 19 Share Posted February 19 I don’t think with AG the profile of strikers we have this season help him - he did his best work when he was close to Isak and I thought they had a good link up As a number 9 he’s been quite canny recently - the more he plays there the better he will be and he can take some of that learning for when he moves back to the left eventually Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Checko Posted February 19 Share Posted February 19 12 minutes ago, TheBrownBottle said: Didn’t want the responsibility until the pressure was off. If the centre forward wants to take the penalties I don’t doubt the manager and team would let him. He wasn’t pushing to the front when it mattered. To be fair he wasn't going to get a chance until we were a few up, though it was notable Bruno took the pel in the league vs Brentford when Nick was on the pitch. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holloway Posted February 19 Share Posted February 19 5 minutes ago, Mikky said: I don’t think with AG the profile of strikers we have this season help him - he did his best work when he was close to Isak and I thought they had a good link up As a number 9 he’s been quite canny recently - the more he plays there the better he will be and he can take some of that learning for when he moves back to the left eventually His future isn't on the left though, he's made that abundantly clear Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deuce Posted February 19 Share Posted February 19 (edited) 1 hour ago, The College Dropout said: It should be the main striker that has the opportunity to stat pad via penalties. TBF yesterday that was…Gordon. Incredibly rare to have the chance at four in match, too. Edited February 19 by Deuce Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted February 19 Share Posted February 19 44 minutes ago, Deuce said: TBF yesterday that was…Gordon. Incredibly rare to have the chance at four in match, too. It's more of a club/team thing. Ekitike is the main striker at Liverpool but Salah is the penalty taker and main goalscorer. It's still Salah's at 4-0 because he's the one that's meant to be the Golden Boot guy. He's the one to stat pad. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Superior Acuña Posted February 19 Share Posted February 19 2 hours ago, The College Dropout said: I do think if we are comfortably up, say 3 goals in a second half in the PL. He should give them to the striker. It should be the main striker that has the opportunity to stat pad via penalties. And tbh a striker should be able to pull-rank on penalties too if the team is up. I liked that Wolte was upset and caused a scene. Shows he see's himself as a goalscorer or someone that should be. He's not Firmino or even Isak to Gordon's Salah. He's not second fiddle goalscorer. Penalty-taking midfielders make it hard for strikers to get their numbers in general. It's pretty rare for strikers to score 20+ non-penalty goals in a league season. It's a small reason why Chelsea strikers are rarely prolific - Lampard, Hazard, Jorginho and now Palmer take their penalties. Was Wolte upset? I only saw Trippier worked up about it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
toontownman Posted February 19 Share Posted February 19 3 hours ago, Benwell Lad said: Can't believe some of the negative comments or indifference to him leaving the club that have been aired for some time now. He's by far our most effective player in the opposition half. He terrifies defenders and losing him would create another Izak sized hole in our set up. Cherish the kid, appreciate him and learn to live with his emotional side. Its more resigned to losing him from my end anyway. He showed his head was turned by Liverpool previously. Im not happy to lose him but I do think its inevitable. His blip of form was always going to be temporary. Its funny seeing the Dyer comparisons, not because its out to lunch but I think he is closer to Bellamy with some Dyer traits. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted February 19 Share Posted February 19 32 minutes ago, Superior Acuña said: Was Wolte upset? I only saw Trippier worked up about it. I don't think giving a penalty to someone to boost their confidence is really a thing anyway TBH. If they score it's routine and if they miss it's a disaster. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cf Posted February 19 Share Posted February 19 2 minutes ago, AyeDubbleYoo said: I don't think giving a penalty to someone to boost their confidence is really a thing anyway TBH. If they score it's routine and if they miss it's a disaster. This. Doubly so against nothing opposition. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeordieDazzler Posted February 19 Share Posted February 19 Not that this would have happened as Qara were so bad but Haaland gave up a pen to let Gundogan against Leeds a few years back, with Gundogan on a potential hattrick. He missed and Leeds went down the other end and scored setting up a nervy finish to the game. 100% right for AG to stand his ground. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted February 19 Share Posted February 19 (edited) 5 minutes ago, AyeDubbleYoo said: I don't think giving a penalty to someone to boost their confidence is really a thing anyway TBH. If they score it's routine and if they miss it's a disaster. I think the goals scored chart is big for strikers. It's a +1 to the tally and brings them closer to their targets/goals. It gets the ball rolling again. If he scores a penalty he's now got 2 in 2 all of a sudden. Those little things add up. Goals make a big part of a strikers footballing identity. Edited February 19 by The College Dropout Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanshithispantz Posted February 19 Share Posted February 19 (edited) People half a tonne heavier than him like to take the piss about his elite mentality patter, but his insane confidence against all the odds is his best attribute. Him telling Trippier to fuck off was what you'd expect. Edited February 19 by Hanshithispantz Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted February 19 Share Posted February 19 41 minutes ago, Superior Acuña said: Was Wolte upset? I only saw Trippier worked up about it. If he's got anything to be upset about it's probably seeing Gordon as a preferred choice as the main striker. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
alexf Posted February 19 Share Posted February 19 2 hours ago, The College Dropout said: That's why I liked Wolte causing a scene. Didn't see any evidence of Nick kicking up a fuss at all. Trippier and Willock approached Gordon but TV camera didn't capture any drama from Nick at all. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaKa Posted February 19 Share Posted February 19 (edited) By the time the cameras were rolling and questions were being posed, they had resolved the disagreement. When questioned about what sparked the row, Trippier, whilst Gordon chuckled beside him, explained: "Obviously, Gordy scored a hat-trick and I think I, and all the other players, wanted to take the penalty, but he's our penalty taker." "He wants to score goals, as everybody else does, but ultimately he is the penalty taker. In football, emotions are high on the pitch at times and it is what it is. He scored four goals, he was unbelievable today, and we move on." When it was Gordon's turn to respond, the £40million signing stated: "Yeah, but I understand everyone's opinion because I want everyone to succeed and we should be in it together. But I'm an attacker and the penalty taker, I want to score as many goals as I possibly can." "I understood everyone's opinion and emotions do get high. But, he's one of my closest team-mates, he has been since I joined the club, he's done so much for me. So, yeah, he's alright." Trippier actually wanted to take it There was a number of them that were looking to, which is ridiculous, and so I think Gordon was even more in his right to send them all away. Edited February 19 by KaKa Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBrownBottle Posted February 19 Share Posted February 19 40 minutes ago, Hanshithispantz said: People half a tonne heavier than him like to take the piss about his elite mentality patter, but his insane confidence against all the odds is his best attribute. Him telling Trippier to fuck off was what you'd expect. It irritates me, but he was spot on last night. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sima Posted February 19 Share Posted February 19 45 minutes ago, TRon said: If he's got anything to be upset about it's probably seeing Gordon as a preferred choice as the main striker. He should probably work at being a better striker than Gordon then. As he certainly isn't at the minute. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted February 19 Share Posted February 19 If it's stat padding out of Gordon and Trippier - it's Gordon all day Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted February 19 Share Posted February 19 4 minutes ago, Sima said: He should probably work at being a better striker than Gordon then. As he certainly isn't at the minute. Agree. Although I still remain to be convinced that Gordon is a striker at the top level either but at the moment he certainly looks better in our system than Wolt. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smal Posted February 19 Share Posted February 19 probably one of his biggest haters on here but he was spot on last night with the penalty thing, and I’ve enjoyed his performances up front recently. His first two games there he lead the press well, but last night he actually looked like a genuine goal threat for the first time as a striker. I do think it’s pretty funny that only a month or so ago he was banging on about how well he’d been playing and that people were too obsessed with stats; and now that he’s scored a few he’s piping up about how he wants to get his goal numbers up as much as possible . I suppose that’s the mentality of a sportsperson though. Let’s have some open play goals in the PL now please. One all season and none at all in 2025 is crazy. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted February 19 Share Posted February 19 11 minutes ago, Smal said: probably one of his biggest haters on here but he was spot on last night with the penalty thing, and I’ve enjoyed his performances up front recently. His first two games there he lead the press well, but last night he actually looked like a genuine goal threat for the first time as a striker. I do think it’s pretty funny that only a month or so ago he was banging on about how well he’d been playing and that people were too obsessed with stats; and now that he’s scored a few he’s piping up about how he wants to get his goal numbers up as much as possible . I suppose that’s the mentality of a sportsperson though. Let’s have some open play goals in the PL now please. One all season and none at all in 2025 is crazy. He did say in his post-match that he thinks he played the position well even when he wasn't scoring. Rightly or wrongly Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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