STM Posted November 24, 2025 Share Posted November 24, 2025 I think we all have a tendency to overreact. Gordon is a good player. Barnes is a good player. Both perform better when the team performs well and the team performs well when we have our wingers ticking. Gordon had his best performance in black and white against Benfica and his worst against West Ham. Im not sure on his attitude, but I know for certain that Eddie will be on top of it. IMO he does come back in vs Marseille but in order to give Woltemade a rest. Its not ideal having Gordon up front, but it might be the right tonic for the side on a tricky European away night when counter attacking might be the way. Barnes pushing him out of the team is fantastic news. Gordon will either have to put up or shut up. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Abacus Posted November 24, 2025 Share Posted November 24, 2025 I'm not sure Everton is the right game for Gordon, so on balance I'd play him tomorrow instead. I don't think he's been quite right since that disrupted summer with England not playing him and then the Liverpool speculation even though that's a long time ago now. Also then this season adjusting to a different style of play this season with a more withdrawn striker. On the other hand, with Barnes in form, you could make a case to play him against Marseille. 3 more points would presumably secure a play off spot, allowing us to then take the foot off the gas a bit in these last few interminable qualifying rounds and concentrate more on the league. So, basically, I haven't a clue, but I'd rather Gordon played tomorrow than against Everton. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitley mag Posted November 24, 2025 Share Posted November 24, 2025 36 minutes ago, Abacus said: I'm not sure Everton is the right game for Gordon, so on balance I'd play him tomorrow instead. I don't think he's been quite right since that disrupted summer with England not playing him and then the Liverpool speculation even though that's a long time ago now. Also then this season adjusting to a different style of play this season with a more withdrawn striker. On the other hand, with Barnes in form, you could make a case to play him against Marseille. 3 more points would presumably secure a play off spot, allowing us to then take the foot off the gas a bit in these last few interminable qualifying rounds and concentrate more on the league. So, basically, I haven't a clue, but I'd rather Gordon played tomorrow than against Everton. Gordon is a car crash against Everton and tries way to hard. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yorkie Posted November 24, 2025 Share Posted November 24, 2025 1 hour ago, Lush Vlad said: It is easy to say now in hindsight. But keeping Minteh and Anderson and selling Gordon would have been the better deal for us. Assuming Liverpool or whoever were actually in for Gordon, that is. If he wasn't so unsettled that summer then I think we're talking about a different player now tbh. Certainly not someone who's been shit for 18 months, or whatever hyperbole-based-in-some-truth you want to use. Without hindsight, fuck PSR and fuck Liverpool. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lush Vlad Posted November 24, 2025 Share Posted November 24, 2025 1 minute ago, Yorkie said: If he wasn't so unsettled that summer then I think we're talking about a different player now tbh. Certainly not someone who's been shit for 18 months, or whatever hyperbole-based-in-some-truth you want to use. Without hindsight, fuck PSR and fuck Liverpool. I do agree up to a point. Especially with the last bit. But how long does that excuse last? He got a big new contract and we’re a season and a half on. Is he still pouting because of that?! He is allegedly our second highest earner. Does not play like he is and hasn’t for some time. Was that amazing season just an outlier and he’s been sussed out? Or is it generally an attitude problem or a change in playing style? Find out in time, I suppose. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yorkie Posted November 24, 2025 Share Posted November 24, 2025 No, I'm not saying it's not still accountable, but we're not taking about a player who's been disappointing for the best part of 18 months. It was clearly a turning point in his career here, for the worse. All because of PSR. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heron Posted November 24, 2025 Share Posted November 24, 2025 10 minutes ago, Lush Vlad said: I do agree up to a point. Especially with the last bit. But how long does that excuse last? He got a big new contract and we’re a season and a half on. Is he still pouting because of that?! He is allegedly our second highest earner. Does not play like he is and hasn’t for some time. Was that amazing season just an outlier and he’s been sussed out? Or is it generally an attitude problem or a change in playing style? Find out in time, I suppose. For me it's attitude. He needs to wake up if he wants to go to the world cup. At present I'd have Murphy there over Gordon. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
La Parka Posted November 25, 2025 Share Posted November 25, 2025 Carrying an injury or something. Scan him. He's not there at all at the minute. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Myleftboot Posted November 25, 2025 Share Posted November 25, 2025 Frustrating. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
midds Posted November 25, 2025 Share Posted November 25, 2025 Absolutely fed up of watching him atm. He's just not doing much of anything at all and looks a bit of a waste of a shirt Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Butcher Posted November 25, 2025 Share Posted November 25, 2025 Got an assist mind. But poor overall. Would rather have Elanga up front. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid Icarus Posted November 25, 2025 Share Posted November 25, 2025 Inexplicably shite at times like. Literally watches a ball coming to him, let's their player nip in then complains about it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Checko Posted November 25, 2025 Share Posted November 25, 2025 He's been absoulutely fine this half you bunch of conformation bias nonces. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bellis80 Posted November 25, 2025 Share Posted November 25, 2025 1 minute ago, Checko said: He's been absoulutely fine this half you bunch of conformation bias nonces. Absolutely fine if you ignore him not trying to score and running away from a, admittedly abysmal, pass from Willock and letting the defender walk off with it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
toon25 Posted November 25, 2025 Share Posted November 25, 2025 Shit. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weezertron Posted November 25, 2025 Share Posted November 25, 2025 I'm honestly not even that arsed about him as a player at this point. I don't hate him or owt, just meh. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JT24 Posted November 25, 2025 Share Posted November 25, 2025 Sold generational talents Minteh and Anderson to keep this bum. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
huss9 Posted November 25, 2025 Share Posted November 25, 2025 Thick cunt Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wallsendmag Posted November 25, 2025 Share Posted November 25, 2025 42 minutes ago, Checko said: He's been absoulutely fine this half you bunch of conformation bias nonces. Just out of curiosity what do you think he did well today? Serious question btw. Not looking for an argument. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiotes Witch Doctor Posted November 25, 2025 Share Posted November 25, 2025 Shoots when he should pass and passes when he should shoot, isn't willing to put the the miles in anymore either, has all the hall marks of a player who believes his own hype. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wallsendmag Posted November 25, 2025 Share Posted November 25, 2025 On 24/11/2025 at 19:17, STM said: I think we all have a tendency to overreact. Gordon is a good player. Barnes is a good player. Both perform better when the team performs well and the team performs well when we have our wingers ticking. Gordon had his best performance in black and white against Benfica and his worst against West Ham. Im not sure on his attitude, but I know for certain that Eddie will be on top of it. IMO he does come back in vs Marseille but in order to give Woltemade a rest. Its not ideal having Gordon up front, but it might be the right tonic for the side on a tricky European away night when counter attacking might be the way. Barnes pushing him out of the team is fantastic news. Gordon will either have to put up or shut up. I don't think there's been a massive overreaction towards Gordon tbf. You've taken the Benfica game in isolation there but generally speaking in 2025 he has been awful and I think the stats would back that up as well. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smal Posted November 25, 2025 Share Posted November 25, 2025 watching the Thiaw header that was cleared off the line on 4 minutes... I think any normal player gets their head on the end of that in front of the defender, but Gordon didn't want to get hurt. He's regressed so much since his ego got inflated cataclysmically from that one good season. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aiston Posted November 25, 2025 Share Posted November 25, 2025 (edited) Shite yet again. He's played maybe 3 good games since his sending off last season. Edited November 25, 2025 by Aiston Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newcastle Fan Posted November 25, 2025 Share Posted November 25, 2025 As shit as he is upfront i can't blame him when Eddie keeps selecting him, thinking he will magically turn into a diffrent player. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Posted November 25, 2025 Share Posted November 25, 2025 Plenty to criticise without making stuff up like. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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