SteV Posted March 11 Share Posted March 11 1 minute ago, healthyaddiction said: He pushed someone in the same way that Duran itched Schars back. And Duran didn’t miss any cup finals because of it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
healthyaddiction Posted March 11 Share Posted March 11 Just now, SteV said: And Duran didn’t miss any cup finals because of it. But he did miss 3 matches, like Gordon will. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBrownBottle Posted March 11 Share Posted March 11 22 minutes ago, AyeDubbleYoo said: I don’t know what people get out of hammering a player when he clearly did not get what he deserved. I just can’t get my head around anyone thinking missing 3 games for pushing someone a bit harder than normal is fair. I don’t know if it’s because people love to hate Anthony Gordon or secretly still think he’s a scouse rat, or what. I was one of the few on here who defended his signing at the time, and think that the lad has been a good player for the club. But I’ve no sympathy for him missing the final - it was an idiotic thing to do, it was violent conduct, and he absolutely deserves his ban. Nothing should be held against him when he comes back, but it wasn’t an ‘unlucky’ red card. 12 minutes ago, SteV said: He pushed someone so he deserves to miss a cup final? He put his hands in his face. So yes, he deserved an obvious red card and a suspension Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBrownBottle Posted March 11 Share Posted March 11 2 minutes ago, SteV said: And Duran didn’t miss any cup finals because of it. Because Duran’s team didn’t have a cup final a fortnight later. Gordon’s did. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteV Posted March 11 Share Posted March 11 Just now, TheBrownBottle said: Because Duran’s team didn’t have a cup final a fortnight later. Gordon’s did. Well aware of that, and ultimately, rules is rules etc. But for the ‘offence’ that was committed to result in missing a prestige cup final, is really very harsh, even if nothing can be done about it. We demanded that the players were to go out and ‘forget about the final, and play at 100%’. Then one of them oversteps the mark and it’s ’fucking idiot, can’t believe he did that before the final’. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris_R Posted March 11 Share Posted March 11 3 minutes ago, SteV said: We demanded that the players were to go out and ‘forget about the final, and play at 100%’. Then one of them oversteps the mark and it’s ’fucking idiot, can’t believe he did that before the final’. Giving 100% doesn't equate to attempting to push someone's head off their shoulders. It's not a contradiction to expect players to give 100% but be cross when they do what he did. That said, as I posted in here when it happened he's a young lad who's fucked up and I'll not pillory him for it. Shit happens. He seems like the reflective type who'll learn, so if he does then great. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteV Posted March 11 Share Posted March 11 3 minutes ago, Chris_R said: Giving 100% doesn't equate to attempting to push someone's head off their shoulders. It's not a contradiction to expect players to give 100% but be cross when they do what he did. That said, as I posted in here when it happened he's a young lad who's fucked up and I'll not pillory him for it. Shit happens. He seems like the reflective type who'll learn, so if he does then great. Of course, as I said he overstepped the mark, but when you want your plays to play on the edge that will happen occasionally, especially, as you say with younger players. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Conjo Posted March 11 Share Posted March 11 From time to time he ends up in situations where his emotions gets the better of him. I think it's something we just got to accept is within him. He'll be back soon and continue to do well. Barnes will handle the business in the meantime. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
alexf Posted March 12 Share Posted March 12 I was so pissed off with him getting himself suspended, mainly because I just had a feeling he was going to put in a massive performance in the final and be a real nuisance. I feel he was one of the few we really couldn't be without to have a chance. The others were Isak, Tonali, Hall and Botman and we already lost two of them aswell. So it's gonna be a hell of an ask but just gotta hope the whole team can play the game of their lives. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanshithispantz Posted March 12 Share Posted March 12 8 hours ago, AyeDubbleYoo said: I don’t know what people get out of hammering a player when he clearly did not get what he deserved. I just can’t get my head around anyone thinking missing 3 games for pushing someone a bit harder than normal is fair. I don’t know if it’s because people love to hate Anthony Gordon or secretly still think he’s a scouse rat, or what. It's all a LARP Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Menace Posted March 12 Share Posted March 12 8 hours ago, AyeDubbleYoo said: I don’t know what people get out of hammering a player when he clearly did not get what he deserved. I just can’t get my head around anyone thinking missing 3 games for pushing someone a bit harder than normal is fair. I don’t know if it’s because people love to hate Anthony Gordon or secretly still think he’s a scouse rat, or what. It was a red. There is no agenda. If someone did that to one of our players we'd demand a red card. I don't know how people can see this and feel like he got hard done by. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NSG Posted March 12 Share Posted March 12 Yeah it was a red, no arguments there. You can’t push someone to the floor by their head and expect anything else. For someone who prides himself on his mentality, preparation for games etc, it was a truly idiotic moment that he’ll regret his whole career. Can only hope he learns from it and comes back with a point to prove. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExiledGeordie Posted March 12 Share Posted March 12 19 minutes ago, NSG said: Yeah it was a red, no arguments there. You can’t push someone to the floor by their head and expect anything else. For someone who prides himself on his mentality, preparation for games etc, it was a truly idiotic moment that he’ll regret his whole career. Can only hope he learns from it and comes back with a point to prove. Comes back and helps us qualify for the champions league. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gola Posted March 12 Share Posted March 12 It was a red card, and he deserves the ban because that's the law. However he definitely doesn't deserve the stick he's getting for fucking up. We're supposed to get behind our players. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr.Spaceman Posted March 12 Share Posted March 12 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fak Posted March 12 Share Posted March 12 1 minute ago, Dr.Spaceman said: "Just been drinking mate." Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted March 12 Share Posted March 12 1 hour ago, Menace said: It was a red. There is no agenda. If someone did that to one of our players we'd demand a red card. I don't know how people can see this and feel like he got hard done by. A still doesn’t show what actually happened. Anyway, agree to disagree. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid Icarus Posted March 12 Share Posted March 12 Knew he reminded me of someone with his current do. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gbandit Posted March 12 Share Posted March 12 Is that Hermes? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
54 Posted March 12 Share Posted March 12 Personally think it was a borderline sending off, and one i'd always think was slightly harsh, but at the same time I have no issues with. I do have some sympathy for him in that a single, almost reflex like moment has cost him the biggest game of his club career, and thats sad for any player, but that being said he did a silly thing and needs to take his medicine and learn from it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yorkie Posted March 12 Share Posted March 12 They need to sort out the three game shit. At least reduce it to two. In almost every case it's totally disproportionate. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Willow Posted March 12 Share Posted March 12 4 hours ago, Menace said: It was a red. There is no agenda. If someone did that to one of our players we'd demand a red card. I don't know how people can see this and feel like he got hard done by. This cracked me up for some reason Maybe because his eyes also look like mouths...or I see Beavis Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BergenMagpie Posted March 12 Share Posted March 12 59 minutes ago, Willow said: This cracked me up for some reason Maybe because his eyes also look like mouths...or I see Beavis Less happy version of this expression Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fak Posted March 12 Share Posted March 12 3 hours ago, gbandit said: Is that Hermes? Could be 'cos their deliveries often go missing as well. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vaj Posted March 12 Share Posted March 12 1 hour ago, Yorkie said: They need to sort out the three game shit. At least reduce it to two. In almost every case it's totally disproportionate. All red cards should be an automatic one game ban that is then assessed to see if it warrants more. Take Bruno's red in the Carabao Cup two years ago, yes it was probably a red card because it went slightly high but to then miss three games as a result of it was ridiculous when it was just an honest tackle that was a split second mistimed. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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