FloydianMag Posted October 7 Share Posted October 7 The judgement for those on here who think that little will change! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hudson Posted October 7 Share Posted October 7 1 minute ago, Miggys First Goal said: Points deductions galore about to drop! How bad are things for Everton, there fucked big style. Like Reading fucked. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miggys First Goal Posted October 7 Share Posted October 7 What next? Masters out on his arse for starters. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mase Posted October 7 Share Posted October 7 28 minutes ago, astraguy said: In this arbitration process, Chelsea, Newcastle and Everton all acted as witnesses for City. Witnesses for the Premier League included Manchester United, Liverpool, Arsenal, Tottenham, Brighton and West Ham. Brentford, Bournemouth, Fulham and Wolves wrote letters in support of the rules. Usual suspects then Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid Icarus Posted October 7 Share Posted October 7 It would be equally ridiculous to punish the clubs with interest free loans from their owners when they were following the rules at the time. It really does seem like the Premier League is eating itself Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gbandit Posted October 7 Share Posted October 7 3 minutes ago, SUPERTOON said: Hard to imagine it being that productive. Fundamentally, the PL and more than half the clubs in it are desperate for us to fail. They’ll be feverishly looking at any possible options to maintain the status quo Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gaztoon Posted October 7 Share Posted October 7 1 minute ago, Hudson said: How bad are things for Everton, there fucked big style. Like Reading fucked. Or they've played a blinder by backing city.knowing full well the Prem will not go after the likes of arsenal and Liverpool for the loan breaches. Which means all penalties given for PSR will be voided ... maybe 😁 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimburst Posted October 7 Share Posted October 7 1 minute ago, Kid Icarus said: It would be equally ridiculous to punish the clubs with interest free loans from their owners when they were following the rules at the time. It really does seem like the Premier League is eating itself Aye, you can't charge anyone for following the rules. That would be so obviously unfair. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Abacus Posted October 7 Share Posted October 7 3 minutes ago, Hudson said: How bad are things for Everton, there fucked big style. Like Reading fucked. I'd guess Everton will be fine. You could guess they could argue that, whilst they were charged for interest rate breaches, essentially, other clubs weren't charged through PSR due to owner interest rate rules which were themselves unlawful. Legal cases all over the shop. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
madras Posted October 7 Share Posted October 7 Just now, Jimburst said: Aye, you can't charge anyone for following the rules. That would be so obviously unfair. Just change the rules very short notice to say they now have to pay the market rate for interest. They seem to like these very short notice change to rules. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stifler Posted October 7 Share Posted October 7 (edited) 9 minutes ago, Hudson said: How bad are things for Everton, there fucked big style. Like Reading fucked. If this takeover gets approved, then the loans will likely be paid back during the transaction, like ours to Ashley. Everton will be in a decent position if it goes ahead. They won’t be able to invest, but should get themselves back to break even, with the new stadium and the increased income that comes with it due. Edited October 7 by Stifler Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mattypnufc Posted October 7 Share Posted October 7 Just now, madras said: Just change the rules very short notice to say they now have to pay the market rate for interest. They seem to like these very short notice change to rules. Imagine. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
et tu brute Posted October 7 Share Posted October 7 48 minutes ago, Jackie Broon said: That's not my reading of the decision, it is clear that the rules are only unlawful on limited grounds: (i) that the APT Rules are unlawful on account of being in breach of sections 2 and 18 of the Competition Act 1998 because they exclude from their scope shareholder loans and for no other reason; (ii) that the Amended APT Rules are unlawful on account of being in breach of sections 2 and 18 of the Competition Act 1998 as they exclude from their scope shareholder loans and because of the pricing changes in Appendix 18 of the Amended APT Rules and for no other reason; (iii) that APT Rules and the Amended APT Rules are unlawful on account of being procedurally unfair because a club is unable to comment upon the comparable transaction data relied upon by the PL before the PL determines whether a transaction is not at FMV and for no other reason; Still got to be changed for APT being unlawful and that is certainly not minor. For a start FMV will be a lot different in Saudia Arabia than it will be in the UK. Aye the premier league really going to knock back a sponsorship from a Saudi company and face the high likelihood now they will be straight in court. The Premier League are full of shite and Masters and co will certainly try to downplay things. Time will tell though, but I disagree with your thinking Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted October 7 Share Posted October 7 52 minutes ago, bobbydazzla said: Also, we were a club that had been hollowed out to its bare bones, declining massively on and off the pitch for 14 years This wasn't a rich club getting richer, it was a club that had been fucked over by a parasitic owner getting the chance to rebuild and compete again. And 11 x PL teams and the PL itself schemed away to stop it happening Read in the Athletic piece that Silverstone inherited a commercial department that had four people in it Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hudson Posted October 7 Share Posted October 7 3 minutes ago, Gaztoon said: Or they've played a blinder by backing city.knowing full well the Prem will not go after the likes of arsenal and Liverpool for the loan breaches. Which means all penalties given for PSR will be voided ... maybe 😁 That’s all very true and highly likely, but once the rules change to include these loans which they have too. Then what ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
duo Posted October 7 Share Posted October 7 Be nice if this opened the purse strings with it being 3 years to the day of the takeover Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scoot Posted October 7 Share Posted October 7 10 minutes ago, SUPERTOON said: Seems strange if "not much has changed". Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stifler Posted October 7 Share Posted October 7 Just now, Jack27 said: Read in the Athletic piece that Silverstone inherited a commercial department that had four people in it Lee Charnley, Mr L. Charnley, Mr Lee. C, and Mr L. C. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobbydazzla Posted October 7 Share Posted October 7 3 minutes ago, Jack27 said: Read in the Athletic piece that Silverstone inherited a commercial department that had four people in it We had Charnley, an overpromoted lickspittle paid a pittance (compared to his industry peers) doing the combined jobs of at least 5-10 Director level employees Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skeletor Posted October 7 Share Posted October 7 I am dead from shock that the cartel were acting unlawfully. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ben Posted October 7 Share Posted October 7 Have these PSR rules failed miserably where Brighton and Everton are concerned ? If those loans are called in they are fucked. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
54 Posted October 7 Share Posted October 7 What do we reckon, the PSR limit being extended so that clubs like Arsenal can comply with the new loan based ruling? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JUICE690 Posted October 7 Share Posted October 7 Funny browsing other clubs forums. Everyone seems to think their fine, and this hasn't really changed anything. So fuck knows. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
et tu brute Posted October 7 Share Posted October 7 43 minutes ago, Scoot said: "Significant" Of course it is, I honestly don't understand how anyone cannot see that. The APT rules have been deemed unlawful and have to be changed ; and I would be gobsmacked if the changes were not significant, with the changes not being changed deemed as insignificant, despite the Premier League's words. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
WilliamPS Posted October 7 Share Posted October 7 2 minutes ago, Ben said: Have these PSR rules failed miserably where Brighton and Everton are concerned ? If those loans are called in they are fucked. Brighton will be fine, they have huge PSR headroom due to their transfers and the loans are to their owner so he’s no incentive to call them in and put his own club out of business. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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