Yankuba Minteh (now playing for Brighton & Hove Albion)

[KaKa]

Just now, tarie4 said:

Yeah, I get what you mean. Last season in the EPL, Murphy had 7 assists and 3 goals in 21 games. That means he was involved in a goal every 2 games. So, I don't think the stats support your argument. I agree that he could be upgraded, but saying Miniteh is ahead of him is a bit of a stretch. Even if we didn't sell Miniteh, I'd still want the club to buy a starting right winger.

 

I hear you.

 

I'm on record saying Murphy should start ahead of Almiron, so I get it. 

 

To Murphy's credit he has recognised not to try to do too much on the ball and just whip balls in when he has space to. And that has caused problems.

 

However, progressing the ball down the pitch on that side continues to be a problem, and build up down that side remains largely unconvincing, and tends to break down. And overall that is causing the team more harm than good.

[Menace]

6 minutes ago, tarie4 said:

16 my good man. 

 

Madrid paid above the reported release clause.

 

Aye to beat Barca to the signing - so the Arda comparison in this instance was lazy

[tarie4]

Just now, Menace said:

 

Aye to beat Barca to the signing - so the Arda comparison in this instance was lazy

I think you are missing my point there my good sir.

[Nine]

50 minutes ago, Jesse Pinkman said:

He looks like he has zero football IQ and little end product. I think this could have been great business for us. 

Reminds me a lot of Leicesters Fatawu, he’d kill

the championship but needs a lot of growth to be effective in this league 

[Froggy]

41 minutes ago, Zero said:

Interesting. My Man Utd mate is saying Dalot got terrorised the whole game and ask me why letting such a prospect gone.

 

This is just his 2nd EPL game. 20 years old. If you can’t see how talented he is, you got a problem.

 

Is your Man United mate you by any chance? Dalot ate him alive. He was never troubled by him. 

 

He is very direct though, clear he'll be a decent player, but £35m still seems like a great sale to me. 

[Bally21]

Didn't watch the game, honest appraisal of how he played?

[Froggy]

2 minutes ago, Bally21 said:

Didn't watch the game, honest appraisal of how he played?

 

From a neutral, he was very direct, always looking to take his man on but he was rarely if ever successful. Felt like there was quite a few misplaced passes when he was trying to play in behind. Dalot is a very good player so it's not the end of the world not getting the better of him. 

 

He still seems very raw. He's no Miggy.

 

 

Edited August 24, 2024 by Froggy

[Zero]

7 minutes ago, Froggy said:

 

Is your Man United mate you by any chance? Dalot ate him alive. He was never troubled by him. 

 

He is very direct though, clear he'll be a decent player, but £35m still seems like a great sale to me. 

No, they are much more trustworthy than you anyway.

[80]

37 minutes ago, KaKa said:

 

I hear you.

 

I'm on record saying Murphy should start ahead of Almiron, so I get it. 

 

To Murphy's credit he has recognised not to try to do too much on the ball and just whip balls in when he has space to. And that has caused problems.

 

However, progressing the ball down the pitch on that side continues to be a problem, and build up down that side remains largely unconvincing, and tends to break down. And overall that is causing the team more harm than good.

Yes, his end product is pretty decent. It's the beginning and middle which he struggles with. I like Murphy, but I don't think many people realise what a difference a really quality RW would make to us - in defence as much as anything, through retained possession, threat and turning periodic spells of dominance into actual leads without having to throw our kitchen sink.

[Lush Vlad]

3 hours ago, Zero said:

Interesting. My Man Utd mate is saying Dalot got terrorised the whole game and ask me why letting such a prospect gone.

 

This is just his 2nd EPL game. 20 years old. If you can’t see how talented he is, you got a problem.

He was direct. But ‘terrorised’?! Nonsense. What game was he watching? 
 

Think he got by him once and he won a corner. Other than that, Dalot did a very good job on him and was often isolated 1 v 1. With Minteh almost always making or being pushed into the wrong decision. Most the time just taking too long to do anything. Dalot had him in his pocket. Whilst still managing to help out in attack at times. 
 

He was promising in ways and I wish we could have kept hold of him based on what I have seen. But what were the FFP alternatives? Sell Joelinton? Gordon? Bruno…..?!
 

Surely someone who’s never played for us being sold for a good profit and someone who was a bit positionless and not a first team regular was the better option. 

 

 

Edited August 24, 2024 by Lush Vlad

[duo]

Move on

[Matt1892]

I didn’t see any of the highlights of Brighton’s first game last week but I came away from watching this one thinking that he is going to be an exciting player when he gets bedded in to the league. Every time he gets the ball you can hear the roar from Brighton fans urging him forward.

 

Ten Hag deserves credit for how they set up to defend against Brighton as by defending deep there was never any space for Minteh or Mitoma to get in behind the fullbacks, so they were left to try and beat them in tight spaces which Delot did really well in.

 

He has quite a lot of similarities to Gordon when running at players, as well as out of possession in terms of work rate.

 

Some have said about him giving away possession with stray passes but I thought he made some good attempts at through balls that his team mates were not on his wavelength to yet, which will come the more they play together.

 

Joe Cole was praising him after the game for how direct he was and his pressing game.
 

Good luck to the lad and I hope it works out for him, we need to move on from what could have been and that will be helped when the club sorts the position out.

[Guest]

Mineth - 1 PL assist

Almiron - 6 PL assists

 

So far Miggy is better. 

[Gawalls]

4 hours ago, Bally21 said:

Didn't watch the game, honest appraisal of how he played?

This is the only honest view of his performance on here yet.

[Holloway]

Against a superior defence we've found out that he's talented, raw and inconsistent. 

Same shit, different defence 

[The Prophet]

Nothing new then. He's an extremely promising, but unpolished player who'll have as many bad games as good at this stage of his development.

[Beren]

Do we have a sell-on clause for Minteh?

[relámpago blanco]

He was alright, still raw, he'll probably turn into a decent player but the furore on here about him is insane.  Great at points, you can see a good player in him but we need get to get past this nonsense as we had to sell someone.  If it wasn't him, it would have been Bruno, Isak or Gordon.  We tried to get Almiron to go to Saudi Arabia but he wouldn't and I don't hold that against him.  Either he was sold, we sold one of our best first-team players or we got deducted points.  You can say that's a mistake but we are buying players like him for exactly this reason.  That's how the top clubs stay within FFP.  Buy young players then sell them, some come into the first team a lot don't.  We are very early in our journey and yes I would have liked to see him but I don't think he would have been the answer for this season for RW anyway.  Maybe next season he would but he's gone.  We will see a lot of this as we grow.  Hopefully, though we sell 2/3 and retain 1/2.

[Jaqen]

5 hours ago, 54 said:

I think i've mentioned it before, but personally I've always felt that £35M for someone who has had one semi-decent season in a non top 5 league after getting him for £6m a year prior, is really good business. If he becomes a top player is moot to be honest, you can only look at the deal at the time of it happening, and at the time it was great business.

 

People are also really underrating the position it left us in that we didn't have to sell any of the purples. Like how many teams ever can finish outside of Europe and keep players of the level of Isak and Bruno? Isak is one of the top few strikers in the world and not had to worry about losing him at all and people are claiming it's been a negative or disastrous window 

[gjohnson]

This Minteh stuff is starting to sound like not winning the lottery when having numbers off by one for each ball.

 

He never played for us so we haven't really lost anything. His trade helped us out of a hole and probably stopped us falling foul of the rules put in place specifically to stop us.

 

In a perfect world it would have been good to keep him, but when we're competing against accountants who can sell something that's already theirs to themselves it was a pretty good deal. Accountancy specifics aside we sold a player we bought for 6-8m for 30m without ever having to take the risk of him playing.

 

Hopefully we can make use of it going forward

[Kanj]

Completely taking a step back 

 

1) yes, wish we had him. He'd push Murphy as the starter and eventually displace him (with current squad). 

2) it would be the end of Mig. i think Minteh has 90 mins of pressing in him so the energy stays on.

3) there is NO WORLD where we keep him. No saleable asset of the squad other than the jewels being solld that would have solved our issues. (Do we ever really want to sell Bruno, Gordon, isak or JL?) 

4) No combo of Trips, Mig, Wilson, Or Longie probably ever happens or it would have; IMHO. We probably tried. However, those gusy are complicated deals to do and our club hierarchy will never push a top pro out. Maybe Mitchell will?

5) ^^^ Maybe other clubs do #4, but I'm glad we don't or haven't yet. I'll happily treat our guys who have given their all for mutiple years, under shit manager and unrest, played hurt. The human side is what makes NUFC the club we all still love because during those dark days, it was and could have been very easy to walk away, but we didn't...why? Well, very easy to work that out. 

 

I wish Minteh all the best, and will be happy to say that we basically discovered him and if he goes on to be a world class talent, then that's all on him and the opportunities he took for himself. 

 

 

Edited August 24, 2024 by Kanji

[Upthemags]

So strange how most of the Minteh defenders (all of them?) have moved on a long time ago.

 

Almost seems the loudest voices in the room are those trying to convince themselves we haven't missed out on our RW for the next decade. Non-issue either way, as the sale needed to be made for PSR... Interesting still to watch play out on here.

[timeEd32]

10 hours ago, Ghandis Flip-Flop said:

Well I think to me at least, that it’s clear if we should be getting upset at a Brighton player we missed our chance with, is that player should be Joao Pedro

I’ve been disappointed by this since he went to Brighton. Isak and then Gordon pushed us to the limit so we never really had a chance, but I wish we had been able to get Pedro also. If we had had a chance to spend the Barnes money on him instead I think we’d have a lot better balance / fluidity / options up front.

[Displayname]

If we had to get some profit in to comply with FFP i guess he was the obvious option. Find it hard to understand how we could be in the position where we needed £50m or whatever it was though. Must mean the management took a hell of a risk with the prior signings. 

[Jimburst]

11 hours ago, Mikky said:

Think I have watched a different match - he has been very sloppy at times - looks like a typical inexperienced player 

I don't think he looked typical at all. Incredibly direct, great crosses, great pressing. Should have had a couple of assists and was immediately behind Welbeck ready to finish when he scored his first. Thought he looked miles ahead of our current options.

 

I understand why he had to be sold, though.