Groundhog63 Posted October 13, 2023 Share Posted October 13, 2023 11 minutes ago, Infatuation Junkie said: We are always the last 30 seconds of an Eastenders episode no matter what era we are in. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteV Posted October 13, 2023 Share Posted October 13, 2023 13 minutes ago, The College Dropout said: His offence was legit against the rules and cheating. But he did it as a Spurs player which is why I think the FA was the ruling party. Â I don't think it's enforceable and would create a black market. But in a perfect world, I would ban gambling. It's a massive net negative to society. Ban gambling. Jesus Christ. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ash Posted October 13, 2023 Share Posted October 13, 2023 1 hour ago, GeordieDazzler said: Sorry if already mentioned but itâs worth pointing out that betting rules in Italy are much stricter than in the UK.  In the UK you are not allowed to bet on a competition you are directly involved in whereas in Italy you cannot bet on any games organised by FIGC, UEFA and FIFA - basically all of it. I remember Buffon, Maresca and a few others being investigated for it ages ago and it was eventually dropped.  Fully depends on the details but if he has broken Italian rules but not FA rules heâd probably be okay. What Toney did is effectively banned in all leagues which is why heâs not been loaned elsewhere.  Youâd imagine if there was suspicion of criminal wrongdoing they wouldnât have just let them return to their clubs. Story has blown up there and it seems they just want them as far away from it ahead of their important Euro qualifiers. Not true. Itâs a worldwide ban on any form of football under FA rules. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colos Short and Curlies Posted October 13, 2023 Share Posted October 13, 2023 13 minutes ago, Abacus said: Presumably, if Milan knew then Tonali did too. Also, given the strictness of Italy's rules on this, it would make him a bit daft.  That's all totally hypothetical of course if there's even anything at all behind this, which nobody knows. Think I'll wait till whatever investigation is done and we know what (if anything) has happened.  If there's anything serious, I might get so furious I'll knock half a point off my transfer window score so help me.  If Tonali didn't disclose then the redress would likely be limited to termination of contract.  If Milan didn't disclose then they have sold an asset under false pretences (potentially - one for the lawyers to argue over) and they could be sued for the impaired value  All hypothetically and the severity of any offence/ban would be taken into account Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
OCOCOL Posted October 13, 2023 Share Posted October 13, 2023 (edited) 1 hour ago, Gawalls said: I donât know what that is  omertĂ /ËÉĘmÉËËtÉË/ noun (among the Mafia) a code of silence about criminal activity and a refusal to give evidence to the police. "loyal to the oath of omertĂ "  Posted in good faith assuming I am not being whooshed here!!!!! Edited October 13, 2023 by OCOCOL Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeordieDazzler Posted October 13, 2023 Share Posted October 13, 2023 2 minutes ago, Ash said: Not true. Itâs a worldwide ban on any form of football under FA rules. Ah youâre right serves me right for taking Googleâs except of the FA website. What Iâve said only applies to below the conference it seems. Ah well every day is a school day.  https://www.thefa.com/football-rules-governance/policies/betting-rules#:~:text=No Participant can bet on,passing inside information for betting. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TBG Posted October 13, 2023 Share Posted October 13, 2023  Computer, enhance.    Computer, enhance.    Computer, triangulate all power and enhance    Computer, upscale   Computer, what have we done     Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lush Vlad Posted October 13, 2023 Share Posted October 13, 2023 21 minutes ago, SteV said: Ban gambling. Jesus Christ. Aye. Absolute nonsense. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wilson Posted October 13, 2023 Share Posted October 13, 2023 24 minutes ago, SteV said: Ban gambling. Jesus Christ.   Unreal. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lush Vlad Posted October 13, 2023 Share Posted October 13, 2023 Ban all vices and anything you might be able to get addicted to, I say. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
FloydianMag Posted October 13, 2023 Share Posted October 13, 2023 https://sempremilan.com/raimondo-milan-fined-tonali-betting-scandal  Milan may have known ??ââď¸ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slim Posted October 13, 2023 Share Posted October 13, 2023 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LFEE Posted October 13, 2023 Share Posted October 13, 2023 So worst case scenario a 3yr ban. Best case a ÂŁ25k fine. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
54 Posted October 13, 2023 Share Posted October 13, 2023 Just now, LFEE said: So worst case scenario a 3yr ban. Best case a ÂŁ25k fine. Slight difference there Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrRaspberryJam Posted October 13, 2023 Share Posted October 13, 2023 The thing about gambling is, you need to know when to start and when to stop. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris_R Posted October 13, 2023 Share Posted October 13, 2023 5 minutes ago, LFEE said: So worst case scenario a 3yr ban. Best case a ÂŁ25k fine. Â If he sticks money on Australia beating England at the weekend, he could get away with less than ÂŁ5k. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stottie Posted October 13, 2023 Share Posted October 13, 2023 I think he's been fine. He's clearly not Howe midfielder-level fit yet. Howe likes em very dynamic. Â Tonali wasn't a metronomic ball-recycler in Italy, he's more a creator, so it shouldn't be a surprise for him to be hitting loose passes in a faster league. As with the fitness, it will take time for him to get up to speed. I thought it clear at the end of last season that we leaned too much on Bruno to make things happen, so I was happy we went in for a creator and not a #6. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrRaspberryJam Posted October 13, 2023 Share Posted October 13, 2023 10 minutes ago, Stottie said: Â Tonali wasn't a metronomic ball-recycler in Italy, vile Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted October 13, 2023 Share Posted October 13, 2023 1 hour ago, SteV said: Ban gambling. Jesus Christ. It's just my personal view. Â In reality, I would treat it like cigarettes. No advertising. No high-street stores. Massive warnings where people can partake. It doesn't add anything to society. It should be confined to those who really want to participate and there should be stricter liability on individual bookies. Â I would probably do the same for most illegal drugs. Make it legal to the point of largely removing the organised crime element and supporting those who are addicted. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted October 13, 2023 Share Posted October 13, 2023 21 minutes ago, Stottie said: I think he's been fine. He's clearly not Howe midfielder-level fit yet. Howe likes em very dynamic. Â Tonali wasn't a metronomic ball-recycler in Italy, he's more a creator, so it shouldn't be a surprise for him to be hitting loose passes in a faster league. As with the fitness, it will take time for him to get up to speed. I thought it clear at the end of last season that we leaned too much on Bruno to make things happen, so I was happy we went in for a creator and not a #6. Most of his creation was via set-pieces. I don't think he's a creator in the Bruno F, KDB or Maddison mould at all. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Venkman Posted October 13, 2023 Share Posted October 13, 2023 1 hour ago, SteV said: Ban gambling. Jesus Christ. Jesus probably would have suggested giving that money to the poor TBF, maybe not a ban as such. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
captainhaircut Posted October 13, 2023 Share Posted October 13, 2023 Note key player in Harry Toffoloâs recent case. Nowt to worry about. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wilson Posted October 13, 2023 Share Posted October 13, 2023 44 minutes ago, MrRaspberryJam said: The thing about gambling is, you need to know when to start and when to stop.  You've also got know when to hold 'em, know when to fold 'em, know when to walk away... and know when to run. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Conjo Posted October 13, 2023 Share Posted October 13, 2023 44 minutes ago, MrRaspberryJam said: The thing about gambling is, you need to know when to start and when to stop. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TBG Posted October 13, 2023 Share Posted October 13, 2023 A worrying lack of silence from the club over this.  Would've thought they would've flown Howe over to the Hague to questions by now.  Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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