Sima Posted August 17, 2023 Share Posted August 17, 2023 Give me Chiesa. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Optimistic Nut Posted August 17, 2023 Share Posted August 17, 2023 11 minutes ago, LFEE said: Is it though? Tonali £53m Barnes £38m minus Wood £15m Darlow .5m Shelvey .5m = £75m So we had to sell ASM to increase budget and furthermore unlock the FFP even more so… Selling ASM £25m has unlocked Liv £30m and hopefully Hall £28m (possibly to be loan fee and bulk next years budget) is the way I’m following it and therefore would still give us room for a similar big deal for a RCB. Despite me not wanting us to the sale of ASM has allowed us to get 2 if not 3 players in that EH wants. We're going to end up spending about £100-110m net at least. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LFEE Posted August 17, 2023 Share Posted August 17, 2023 2 minutes ago, Optimistic Nut said: We're going to end up spending about £100-110m net at least. You are missing the point. Re-read my post. In short our FFP budget does seem to of been £75m with no player sales. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Optimistic Nut Posted August 17, 2023 Share Posted August 17, 2023 2 minutes ago, LFEE said: You are missing the point. Re-read my post. In short our FFP budget does seem to of been £75m with no player sales. I've read it but I doubt our journalists have meant it like that. To me net spend is always cash spent - cash received. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hot Since 1882 Posted August 17, 2023 Share Posted August 17, 2023 With Hall through, can't see anyone else coming in. Howe's been adamant you can't just overhaul things too quickly, and risk unsettling the group - so whilst that could just be rhetoric, it's why I think our business could be done with Hall. Seems as Howe has found his 'group' with Hendrick, Hayden, Fraser nowhere to be seen. Lewis Miley will get minutes in first team before Jan, something we didn't factor prior to pre-season, and possibly Murphy and Jamie Miley too bulking out the first team. Dream for me would shifting 2 of the 3 ghosts-of-Ashley-past, and saving ourselves for January and look to improve somewhere with another 'blow-out' signing. As it's a dream, Napoli have a stinking start, finish bottom in CL, out of Europe all together and under everyone's noses we prize Kvara away in January Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LFEE Posted August 17, 2023 Share Posted August 17, 2023 3 minutes ago, Optimistic Nut said: I've read it but I doubt our journalists have meant it like that. To me net spend is always cash spent - cash received. Either way our net or FFP spend was £75m if you look at the breakdown ? The budget changed once ASM was sold which again was reported. We’ve got to be creative with the deals but it opens things up like others who understand FFP better than me have explained. Selling ASM for £25m doesn’t make the budget £100m from original £75m. It increases it further. By how much you’ll have to ask someone else but we are getting close to the limit depending on structure of Hall. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PauloGeordio Posted August 17, 2023 Share Posted August 17, 2023 1 hour ago, Sima said: Give me Chiesa. Could still happen. Elite RCB next summer Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
toontownman Posted August 17, 2023 Share Posted August 17, 2023 4 minutes ago, PauloGeordio said: Could still happen. Elite RCB next summer Does make you wonder where we go next summer! RCB and RW/AM makes sense. Still think at least one of those could happen this window if Hall is wrapped up this week. Another top draw striker to have Wilson on the bench and maybe another young back up forward. We are alot further forward squad wise than I would have expected. Should also see more youth start coming through in a couple of years. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PauloGeordio Posted August 17, 2023 Share Posted August 17, 2023 4 minutes ago, toontownman said: Does make you wonder where we go next summer! RCB and RW/AM makes sense. Still think at least one of those could happen this window if Hall is wrapped up this week. Another top draw striker to have Wilson on the bench and maybe another young back up forward. We are alot further forward squad wise than I would have expected. Should also see more youth start coming through in a couple of years. Great time to be alive and watch us finally lift off and realise the dreams Kev instilled Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ToonScotman Posted August 17, 2023 Share Posted August 17, 2023 Once Hall is through with it being a loan I think we have done that to of course allow to possibly make 1 more signing and money there if needed. Gives us more time to try shift the likes of Fraser, Hendrick, Manquillo, krafth, Hayden etc and get us some more wiggle room. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PauloGeordio Posted August 17, 2023 Share Posted August 17, 2023 25 minutes ago, ToonScotman said: Once Hall is through with it being a loan I think we have done that to of course allow to possibly make 1 more signing and money there if needed. Gives us more time to try shift the likes of Fraser, Hendrick, Manquillo, krafth, Hayden etc and get us some more wiggle room. Think they’ll give Krafu a chance after his good showing before his injury! The rest yes please. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tisd09 Posted August 17, 2023 Share Posted August 17, 2023 The only small gripe we could have is in an ideal world we would have a better back up to Schar than Lascelles or even a different kind of option to Schar, compare that to a few windows ago when we were disappointed in not getting Choudary in purely based on it would have been someone through the door. Love the way we have gone about things. Despite people throwing around the terms "blood money" and "oil money" we've done this in a good way. Probably a lot to do with FFP, given the way the Saudis have spent back home I think we would have been in for anyone without restrictions Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PauloGeordio Posted August 17, 2023 Share Posted August 17, 2023 3 minutes ago, Tisd09 said: The only small gripe we could have is in an ideal world we would have a better back up to Schar than Lascelles or even a different kind of option to Schar, compare that to a few windows ago when we were disappointed in not getting Choudary in purely based on it would have been someone through the door. Love the way we have gone about things. Despite people throwing around the terms "blood money" and "oil money" we've done this in a good way. Probably a lot to do with FFP, given the way the Saudis have spent back home I think we would have been in for anyone without restrictions And a basket case team. So glad we’re doing it like this. Credit to our business structure and Eddie and staff Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kanji Posted August 17, 2023 Share Posted August 17, 2023 If our preferred RCB target is attainable they'll figure out a way to do that deal, I'm sure of it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PauloGeordio Posted August 17, 2023 Share Posted August 17, 2023 10 minutes ago, Kanji said: If our preferred RCB target is attainable they'll figure out a way to do that deal, I'm sure of it. No doubt! Exciting times Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt1892 Posted August 17, 2023 Share Posted August 17, 2023 We were linked with him earlier in the window. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
elbee909 Posted August 17, 2023 Share Posted August 17, 2023 He'll enjoy Chelsea Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
McCormick Posted August 17, 2023 Share Posted August 17, 2023 2 hours ago, Matt1892 said: We were linked with him earlier in the window. @KaKa Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaKa Posted August 18, 2023 Share Posted August 18, 2023 9 hours ago, McCormick said: @KaKa Really nice pickup for Forest at such a good price too. Eager to see how he gets on in the Prem. Think he's quality. Don't understand how he's been overlooked by the likes of Liverpool and Man Utd who are looking for DMs, but I'm glad they seemingly don't know what they're doing. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shak Posted August 18, 2023 Share Posted August 18, 2023 It's mad that I'm at the point where I feel confident that the people doing our transfer business are just massively competent and I trust what they're doing implicitly. Like, my mind is telling me we're light on the wings... but I also think that if we don't bring a winger in it just means that I'm probably wrong Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zero Posted August 18, 2023 Share Posted August 18, 2023 (edited) So we are done this window. I am extremely happy for what we got, we solved the full back problems, we got a top quality CM, and we got a proven left winger in EPL. I do miss ASM though Edited August 18, 2023 by Zero Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
madras Posted August 18, 2023 Share Posted August 18, 2023 7 minutes ago, Shak said: It's mad that I'm at the point where I feel confident that the people doing our transfer business are just massively competent and I trust what they're doing implicitly. Like, my mind is telling me we're light on the wings... but I also think that if we don't bring a winger in it just means that I'm probably wrong On the wings we have Barnes/Gordon/Joelinton left, on the right Almiron/Murphy, Gordon can play that side as well. Livramento and Hall can both play wide. At Centre half we are shorter imo and through the middle forward is short as well. Spot on about being confident in those handling the dealings though Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
54 Posted August 18, 2023 Share Posted August 18, 2023 Being done with our transfer window two weeks before is shuts, and not being angry because we're penny pinching Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted August 18, 2023 Share Posted August 18, 2023 Just now, madras said: On the wings we have Barnes/Gordon/Joelinton left, on the right Almiron/Murphy, Gordon can play that side as well. Livramento and Hall can both play wide. At Centre half we are shorter imo and through the middle forward is short as well. Spot on about being confident in those handling the dealings though I guess we'll just have to come to terms with having Burns and Lascelles as back up CBs. Doesn't really solve our lack of pace issue there though, but I guess we managed well enough last season. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SUPERTOON Posted August 18, 2023 Share Posted August 18, 2023 Been a brilliant window, focus now on getting rid of Fraser and Hendrick. Suspect that won’t happen till the last week mind. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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