SUPERTOON Posted Sunday at 13:44 Share Posted Sunday at 13:44 (edited) 4 minutes ago, NWMag said: The fact he can cover ST and is essentially 2 in 1 makes it a no brainer for me. Osula should be given the last 15/20 mins of games next season if Isak comes off, and if Isak needs resting fully, we can go Osula up top, or stick Mbuemo there and give Murphy a game. Does that not just mean we run Mbeumo into the ground though, instead of Isak? Edited Sunday at 13:44 by SUPERTOON Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
black_n_white Posted Sunday at 13:44 Share Posted Sunday at 13:44 Mbeumo makes so much sense it’s why I don’t think it’ll happen. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
McCormick Posted Sunday at 13:44 Share Posted Sunday at 13:44 Would people rather a 30m winger and a 30m striker or Mbeumo? Let’s say Kang-in Lee and Kalimuendo for the sake of argument. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Displayname Posted Sunday at 13:44 Share Posted Sunday at 13:44 (edited) They can say that they will keep him if £60m is not met all they want, im 99% certain that they will settle for less. £50-55m is alot of money for them, something they might very well miss out on if he stays another year as he might decide to let the contract run out to get his huge paycheck. Might take a little longer pushing the figure down to that amount though, and we risk losing him to another club. Edited Sunday at 13:47 by Displayname Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiresias Posted Sunday at 13:45 Share Posted Sunday at 13:45 If 60m is too much for single players we either better be all moneyball shit and be recruiting from outside the league or we need to be forgetting about competing at the top. Maybe mbueno isn't worth it, i can believe if he's had over performed fair enough but if we have ambition and want proven players it will cost Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Displayname Posted Sunday at 13:45 Share Posted Sunday at 13:45 (edited) 1 minute ago, SUPERTOON said: Does that not just mean we run Mbuemo into the ground though, instead of Isak? Nah, Mbeumo can also rest when we use Murphy with Isak. Edited Sunday at 13:46 by Displayname Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Optimistic Nut Posted Sunday at 13:45 Share Posted Sunday at 13:45 1 minute ago, SUPERTOON said: Does that not just mean we run Mbeumo into the ground though, instead of Isak? You play Murphy when Mbuemo needs a break? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keegans Export Posted Sunday at 13:46 Share Posted Sunday at 13:46 2 minutes ago, NWMag said: The fact he can cover ST and is essentially 2 in 1 makes it a no brainer for me. Osula should be given the last 15/20 mins of games next season if Isak comes off, and if Isak needs resting fully, we can go Osula up top, or stick Mbuemo there and give Murphy a game. He can still only play one position at a time. He gives us flexibility but not as much flexibility as signing both a RW and a striker would. Obviously I've got no idea what our budget is but we aren't one player away from consistently being able to compete both domestically and in Europe, however good that player is. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LFEE Posted Sunday at 13:47 Share Posted Sunday at 13:47 1 minute ago, McCormick said: Would people rather a 30m winger and a 30m striker or Mbeumo? Let’s say Kang-in Lee and Kalimuendo for the sake of argument. 30&30 for me. Scout properly not lazily. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
McCormick Posted Sunday at 13:48 Share Posted Sunday at 13:48 Just now, LFEE said: 30&30 for me. Scout properly not lazily. For the players I mentioned? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Funtime Frankie Posted Sunday at 13:48 Share Posted Sunday at 13:48 3 minutes ago, McCormick said: Would people rather a 30m winger and a 30m striker or Mbeumo? Let’s say Kang-in Lee and Kalimuendo for the sake of argument. Definitely the two players. The two mentioned would do wonders for us and gives us better flexibility Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ponsaelius Posted Sunday at 13:49 Share Posted Sunday at 13:49 2 minutes ago, McCormick said: Would people rather a 30m winger and a 30m striker or Mbeumo? Let’s say Kang-in Lee and Kalimuendo for the sake of argument. Mbeumo for me if it's those two players. I am in the get guaranteed readymade quality camp. I do think 60 is slightly too much for his age and the way the market is right now though. Then again he's the kind of profile we probably could ship off to Saudi if that charade is still going in 2-3 years. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
r0cafella Posted Sunday at 13:50 Share Posted Sunday at 13:50 Just now, ponsaelius said: Mbeumo for me if it's those two players. I am in the get guaranteed readymade quality camp. I do think 60 is slightly too much for his age and the way the market is right now though. Then again he's the kind of profile we probably could ship off to Saudi if that charade is still going in 2-3 years. Charade surely gets unwound once Ronaldo calls it a day? It definitely doesn't survive post world cup right? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
McCormick Posted Sunday at 13:52 Share Posted Sunday at 13:52 1 minute ago, ponsaelius said: Mbeumo for me if it's those two players. I am in the get guaranteed readymade quality camp. I do think 60 is slightly too much for his age and the way the market is right now though. Then again he's the kind of profile we probably could ship off to Saudi if that charade is still going in 2-3 years. Im the same. The league is so tight now that getting ahead means bringing in top quality. Buying average to good players won’t help us push on. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
black_n_white Posted Sunday at 13:53 Share Posted Sunday at 13:53 2 minutes ago, ponsaelius said: Mbeumo for me if it's those two players. I am in the get guaranteed readymade quality camp. I do think 60 is slightly too much for his age and the way the market is right now though. Then again he's the kind of profile we probably could ship off to Saudi if that charade is still going in 2-3 years. He’d need to tick every box in our recruitment policy for that price, similar to Gordon, Tonali and Isak. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ikon Posted Sunday at 13:53 Share Posted Sunday at 13:53 Just now, McCormick said: Im the same. The league is so tight now that getting ahead means bringing in top quality. Buying average to good players won’t help us push on. I agree to an extent. At the same time we will be playing CL and there will be tons of games. Won’t matter if we have quality if we don’t have the ability to rotate. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LFEE Posted Sunday at 13:56 Share Posted Sunday at 13:56 1 minute ago, McCormick said: For the players I mentioned? I don’t know neither of them It’s a no for me for Mbuemo and Guehi. Just feel spending that extravagantly will just lead us back to where we are now in a few years. Especially due to their wage demands. Nothing particularly critical of the players individually. Mbuemo I’ve talked about and been a fan of for years since he joined Brentford but ultimately that is when we should’ve been buying him. Guehi I’m more doubtful of but fully understand and respect our current scouting team when judging him. I’ve just not been impressed the handful of games I’ve seen him play. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mighty__mag Posted Sunday at 13:59 Share Posted Sunday at 13:59 Hope and pray Jack Grealish isn't the new Calvert-Lewin of the summer, or worse still the pair of them. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gbandit Posted Sunday at 14:01 Share Posted Sunday at 14:01 1 minute ago, mighty__mag said: Hope and pray Jack Grealish isn't the new Calvert-Lewin of the summer, or worse still the pair of them. Calm down son, we’re not signing Grealish and if we sign DCL it’ll be for nothing and will make sense even if he’s on decent wages Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted Sunday at 14:08 Share Posted Sunday at 14:08 22 minutes ago, McCormick said: Would people rather a 30m winger and a 30m striker or Mbeumo? Let’s say Kang-in Lee and Kalimuendo for the sake of argument. Can Mbuemo actually play as an out and out striker? I saw this argument in favour of Gordon as well a couple of seasons ago, but in reality Gordon is no sort of striker. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ponsaelius Posted Sunday at 14:10 Share Posted Sunday at 14:10 (edited) 14 minutes ago, LFEE said: I don’t know neither of them It’s a no for me for Mbuemo and Guehi. Just feel spending that extravagantly will just lead us back to where we are now in a few years. Especially due to their wage demands. Nothing particularly critical of the players individually. Mbuemo I’ve talked about and been a fan of for years since he joined Brentford but ultimately that is when we should’ve been buying him. Guehi I’m more doubtful of but fully understand and respect our current scouting team when judging him. I’ve just not been impressed the handful of games I’ve seen him play. Mbeumo joined Brentford from Ligue 2 for pennies when they were in the Championship mind. He's a class act but it's taken a long time for him to reach this level. I think there's clearly a middle ground between us blowing all of our money on peak age players and recruiting at a much lower price point with what are effectively spread bets. There's of course many players these clubs sign that don't turn into CL level players. At the end of the day while we can say 'trust the scouts' every club now has data and scouts and knows which players are available - but clubs operate in different pools and have different targets. They also have different propensities for risk, particularly if CL qualification is a factor to take into any recruitment model. Paying slightly more and getting them once they've proven themselves is not a bad policy for a club that wants to compete for CL places, IMO. Liverpool basically built their success on doing that. Edited Sunday at 14:11 by ponsaelius Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JT24 Posted Sunday at 14:11 Share Posted Sunday at 14:11 @54 time for your transfer tracker? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mattoon Posted Sunday at 14:13 Share Posted Sunday at 14:13 3 hours ago, Ben said: Club policy, they must have at least 540 players to function In each position Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MagPar Posted Sunday at 14:13 Share Posted Sunday at 14:13 8 hours ago, Groundhog63 said: I'm assuming neither your CM or Striker are going to start? I mean, who you dropping 😂😂😂 Nobody likes smarmy comments bro. Not cool. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ketsbaia Posted Sunday at 14:14 Share Posted Sunday at 14:14 To put Mbeumo's goals into context, quite a few were penalties. Which he probably won't have here. I really like him but would love to see what that money gets you on the continent. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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